Post: Tell me how Second Chance is any better than Juggernaut
12-16-2010, 03:09 AM #1
tdga7x
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Juggernaut:


  • Takes one extra bullet to kill
  • Could still one-shot someone with Jugs with a shot to the neck/chest
  • Forced you to sacrifice Stopping Power, one of the most important perks in CoD4/WaW
  • Took up a very important perk slot


Second Chance:


  • Takes one extra bullet to kill, after the enemy falls to the ground
  • Has frames of invincibility (where you can't kill them as they're falling to the ground)
  • The enemy is able to shoot or knife you while they're falling, while your bullets do nothing during that period of time
  • Impossible to one-shot someone with a sniper rifle unless it's a headshot
  • Doesn't suffer any gun damage loss, since Stopping Power was taken out of the game
  • Takes up perk slot 3, which in my opinion is the least important perk slot
  • Can be revived by people without Second Chance, which takes only one second


So why was Juggernaut taken out so early in the franchise while Treyarch decides to keep in Second Chance (which was bad enough, before they decided to make it even more frustrating)? Something needs to happen soon.
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12-16-2010, 10:28 PM #20
lilnatsfan44
At least I can fight
Originally posted by tdga7x View Post
Wrong, I've experienced this many times, and I've watched the killcams almost every time. I've even seen them kill me with their primary as they're falling. It's bullshit.


No, this is one reason why I use Second Chance. This happens all the time. I'll shoot the guy and he'll die from my primary as I fall into last stand because since I'm not dead yet, those last bullets actually register.

In MW2, I remember someone posted a video about using last stand with launchers because the rocket ALWAYS shoots, instead of it shooting on your screen and not everybody else's screen when you die immediately after pushing R1.

Also with second chance, you never have those sniping moments (like spawn sniping on Highrise in mw2) where you shoot and in the killcam it doesn't show you shooting. Second chance allows every bullet that you have shot with your primary to actually shoot. This is a great reason to use the perk. Especially when you have killed the guy with your primary, still go into last stand, and you have nothing to worry about anymore since the enemy is dead and your teammate can now revive you with ease.
12-16-2010, 10:54 PM #21
Solo
Rookie
Question:

If you have Scout Pro (Switch Weapons Faster) and Second Chance, will you switch to the pistol faster?

Correct me if Scout is a 3rd tier perk, I do not have them memorized.
12-16-2010, 11:30 PM #22
mattk3650
Climbing up the ladder
Umm... I don't think I've been killed by someone in final stand for a while now. You're missing a key difference, with juggernaut, you can still run around and shoot while you haven't taken that last bullet, with final stand you're stuck with a pistol on the floor.

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12-17-2010, 12:25 AM #23
Originally posted by ResistTheSun View Post
"The enemy is able to shoot or knife you while they're falling, while your bullets do nothing during that period of time" tht not true.....you have to wait till you get your gun out. Which is when you hit the floor.
Same with the knife i believe.

Only time it unfair is when the user has a lag switch on but then same thing about knife.

Tbh i think most of the complains would go away if you got the kill if you did the most damage.


You're wrong there. I used to use the Second Chance Perk in the first couple of days, and many times I've been in a 1v1 shoot off and my opponent is about to kill me but as I'm falling into Second Chance my extra two bullets shot from my primary kill him.
Second Chance FTW :black:
KILL ME :(
12-17-2010, 01:43 AM #24
Wow, This post is one of the best complaints I've seen in a while, perfectly set up too.

But I think probably because JD_2020 is a fag and now is fired Happy
12-17-2010, 02:45 AM #25
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ILLUMINATUS
Made this for all those laststand garbage pussies.


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12-19-2010, 07:26 PM #26
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am r supr fgt
I personally find Second Chance discusting. I'd seriously rather Juggernaut over it. Or maybe none at all pl0x?
12-19-2010, 08:04 PM #27
Originally posted by ResistTheSun View Post
"The enemy is able to shoot or knife you while they're falling, while your bullets do nothing during that period of time" tht not true.....you have to wait till you get your gun out. Which is when you hit the floor.
Same with the knife i believe.

Only time it unfair is when the user has a lag switch on but then same thing about knife.

Tbh i think most of the complains would go away if you got the kill if you did the most damage.


Have you ever watched a killcam, and saw you got knifed.. and then they went to second chance? That's what he means

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