(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); This is a thread where I'd like to address COD community's underdog mentality.

Campers, tryhards, overpowered guns, too strong secondaries, Assassin are things I've heard people complain. Well imo there are average-good players vs very good-great players. The former uses those issues as justification for deaths while the latter kills despite those issues. Rushing doesn't make you good. Defensive play doesn't make you good.

Good Rusher- has SMG,Shotgun or AR runs around getting kills, using cover, throwing stuns, knows when to reload uses teammates positioning to find enemies. He overwhelms campers by throwing stuns,flanking,communicating with stuns.

Bad Rusher-has SMG, Shotgun,AR, akimbo FMGs and will literally run around without a purpose dying after every kill even in the enemy's killcam. This guy complains about campers the most because he's the dumb ass running the same routes or going into rooms without paying attention. He also knows Support will give him a Noob Bomber even if he dies 50 times... :carling:

Defensive/Outplay you camper-Has Sniper Rifle, LMG,AR and some SMGs and knows depending on the map or opponent skill level how much he can rush. If he hears a player coming or sees a group on hud he might get prone to finish the enemies off as opposed to trying to outgun a MP7,PP90M1 with his Type 95 or Sniper at close range. This guy uses the map to his advantage. Rushing by flanking the enemy, protecting a flag by shooting from cover. You shoot him, he gets behind cover and waits for you to come at him. He outplays you more than not.

Bad Camper/Annoying but weak-Hiding in corners with HB sensors, literally scared to confront people. He uses any gun because it doesn't matter he sucks anyway.

When I use P90, MP7 or Scar I rush(good) a lot more especially when I have a good team.

When I use Type 95,ACR or MK14 I am a little more defensive only because players on MW3 like the buddy system and it's at time harder to play overly aggressive without SMG. I don't sit and wait for people but I won't run into rooms as aggressively especially on kill confirmed where people are hip to hip.

Point is good players will overcome tactics while complainers will moan. I understand, people like to play the underdog and it's easy to yell camper than to realize a Type 95 will outgun a Striker at medium range. There are more things to the game than tactics.

I dare a person who rushes all the time to camp and do well. I dare a camper to rush and see how well. I've said before if you let a guy get 50 or more kills on you, blame yourself and teammates not him.

Which type of player is the one that can work his way around getting killed by explosives, not get spawn killed, and avoid lag compensation? lol

Run to the enemy push them back the spawn kill, but then they rage quit or go noob cause they got beat... But yes machine pistols are OP beyond all belief, pistols suck, excep maybe akimbo, and hip fire is so OP, but then shotguns, semi auto are a bit OP, but pump actions are shit, LMG's are shit except maybe when glitched, SMG's are slightly OP blah blah blah but IW will never fix thiese cause there pathetic...

Good Rushers still die when someone is sitting in a random ass corner that makes absolutely no sense to be in, you used to be able to turn on them in other CODS but since all guns do more damage in MW3 it is a lot harder

Title is a bit misleading.
I thought this thread would be comparing CoD things to they're real life counter-part.

IE: Shooting someone in the arm with a .50cal sniper rifle, and them being able to keep not only holding theyre weapon, but accurately aiming and shooting at you. While in real life, obviously youd be missing an arm, and bleed out very quickly if no medical attention was near.

people will always bitch and make an excuse as to why they died. Because they don't have the balls to admit they actually died.

They need to man up a good player is a good player a bad player is a bad player doesn't matter what there doing.

Example - I see tons of people go negative all the time which amazes me because when I used nothing but pistols my k/d was still 1.03 which means using handguns and nothing else 98% of the time I managed to go positive majority of the time.

Good Player - Can do decent thrown into any situation

Bad Player - Blames the situation instead of himself

If hip firing is OP then aiming down sights must super OP according to your logic.

Rushers die because you can't counter assassin, you hardly get kills with your predator etc because the whole enemy team have Blind eye, and you get screwed all the time because enemies can get alot of killstreaks because they rely on support killstreaks.
A defensive player will most often use assassin to avoid himself getting killed or owned by a good player.
This pretty much happens 85% of the time now
Also most guns are fine except for the Shotguns & LMGs

Id have to agree! Off topic- do you have ps3? If so you should add me im-birdy

Join a clan. Most of these issues don't matter when you have a good party of smart players that communicate. People can only camp if you and your teammates let them. Playing solo makes the game terrible.


Most players. If you're getting spawn killed you need to join a party...



Dying from the occasional guy hiding in a corner isn't any worse than dying from a random nade,a quick scoper, Dead Man's hand, car blowing up or some Scrub with a Stealth Bomber. Besides I've killed people by rushing with P90 rapid and they'll say my gun is overpowered. We can expect to die only in 1v1 situations especially people use excuses then too.



Your statement is typical of NGU. You paint EVERY enemy as a guy wit Assassin, Blind Eye and using a silencer hiding in corners with HB Sensors and Claymores which is hyperbole for the most part. That's far from the truth. Assassin isn't nearly as bad since UAVs are up 75% of the game. People can camp with UAV up as well so Assassin would be a good way to counter them camping reddots. Oh and UAV campers exist...

Also out of 9 Ground War players only 3 tops use Blind Eye. The use SOH more than Blind Eye. I use Assault only so believe me I know.

My point of view is stricty Ground War on PS3...So if you're talking about other modes like SND or HQ, HC then it is what it is, those modes aren't conducive to rushers nor should you expect them to be.