Post: Playing the objective
05-01-2012, 02:21 AM #1
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Recently, I joined a lobby, and saw a few of my old friends in a full party (Ground war). The next few minutes are summarized with me scoring a 78-3 assault MOAB, but with a match loss. afterwards, I have my whole team and the other team yelling at me, because I didn't cap any flags - I was in an ac130 for half the match, and they couldn't grab a flag while everyone was dead. I was being told (by everyone) that domination wasn't for me.

My question to you:
What do you think is the objective? A lot of people criticize you for not capping any flags, and being a killwhore, but I really don't think they know how dom works.

Enemies defend flags-I kill enemies-no one hops on flag?
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Porter_Justice, The Clipse
05-05-2012, 02:34 PM #29
Originally posted by UKSIDNUS View Post
your the type i loveeeeee to plays because you think about you k/d and probably have double the losses to wins if you want kills play FFA or TDM because twits like you spoil it for others actually trying to WIN


I play the objective, just not if my team absolutely can't help with it. I'm not gonna be the only one on the flag. True, I do have 200 more losses than wins, but the primary cause is the matchmaking system. I play according to how my team plays. If my team is having a cap war, than I will help defend and cap. If everyone is just camping the one flag spawn (or just sitting anywhere), then I hop out of the spawn to Killwhore. In no way am I spoiling their win/loss, as they wouldn't win either way. I try to be productive with every game.
05-05-2012, 03:58 PM #30
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
Originally posted by UKSIDNUS View Post
your the type i loveeeeee to plays because you think about you k/d and probably have double the losses to wins if you want kills play FFA or TDM because twits like you spoil it for others actually trying to WIN


I LOVE guys who make these type of retorts. Usually they'll win a close game 200-199 and will go 20-45 yet yet they get some moral victory out of squeaking out a win even though it was a FFA type win. It's a moral victory to say, "it's not about kills" usually because they can't win AND get kills outside of Support killstreaks of course.

Killwhores only hurt the team if they don't actually get kills. Domination's objective is to keep two flags and you need killss t maintain them.. Most GOOD players know this...
05-05-2012, 04:09 PM #31
Originally posted by Justice View Post
I LOVE guys who make these type of retorts. Usually they'll win a close game 200-199 and will go 20-45 yet yet they get some moral victory out of squeaking out a win even though it was a FFA type win. It's a moral victory to say, "it's not about kills" usually because they can't win AND get kills outside of Support killstreaks of course.

Killwhores only hurt the team if they don't actually get kills. Domination's objective is to keep two flags and you need killss t maintain them.. Most GOOD players know this...

I feel like the thread has been repeating itself. There are stupid replies every day and then 5 guys come and give the same answer. I say we settle this with a ngu deciding match. "Killwhores" vs "Objective players"
05-05-2012, 04:15 PM #32
Ameht!
Dark Knight
Originally posted by Dexla View Post
I think people fail to understand the objective.

Recently, I joined a lobby, and saw a few of my old friends in a full party (Ground war). The next few minutes are summarized with me scoring a 78-3 assault MOAB, but with a match loss. afterwards, I have my whole team and the other team yelling at me, because I didn't cap any flags - I was in an ac130 for half the match, and they couldn't grab a flag while everyone was dead. I was being told (by everyone) that domination wasn't for me.

My question to you:
What do you think is the objective? A lot of people criticize you for not capping any flags, and being a killwhore, but I really don't think they know how dom works.

Enemies defend flags-I kill enemies-no one hops on flag?



Welcome to the Cod franchise and the NGu community. Where kids think K/d is the "Objective". It's really sad that kids thinking that having a high K/d is the same as "Winning".
05-06-2012, 05:17 PM #33
UKSIDNUS
Climbing up the ladder
well i hope your not aiming that at me because i can get kills K/D 1.55 and i an win games win ratio 4.18 so get you facts right
Originally posted by Justice View Post
I LOVE guys who make these type of retorts. Usually they'll win a close game 200-199 and will go 20-45 yet yet they get some moral victory out of squeaking out a win even though it was a FFA type win. It's a moral victory to say, "it's not about kills" usually because they can't win AND get kills outside of Support killstreaks of course.

Killwhores only hurt the team if they don't actually get kills. Domination's objective is to keep two flags and you need killss t maintain them.. Most GOOD players know this...
05-06-2012, 10:02 PM #34
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
The funny thing is capturing objectives isn't some hard, noble task. It would be easier for a guy good at killwhoring to capture objectives than a idiot triple capping all game to be a killwhore.



As resist said earlier. You have to know when to do what. A team of 1.5+ kdr guys will beat guys with 1- kdr in domination most times. Unless the higher kdr guys literally don't try to capture. Most COD players are terrible. I will take a killwhore on my team before a splitscreen player, quick scoper, riot shielder or guys who have no clue how to cap flags anyday.
Originally posted by psameht View Post
Welcome to the Cod franchise and the NGu community. Where kids think K/d is the "Objective". It's really sad that kids thinking that having a high K/d is the same as "Winning".


The ngu community is the exact opposite. K/D means nothing, every gun is OP if it kils, every match has unbeatable campers, etc etc.

The key is to win. The more kills and killstreaks you get, the better your chances. Good players know when it is time to fight for objectives. The idiots are the ones losing 175-40 getting abused by so called kilkwhores killing them off seemingly meaningless objectives.

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05-07-2012, 12:38 AM #35
Ameht!
Dark Knight
Originally posted by Justice View Post


The ngu community is the exact opposite. K/D means nothing, every gun is OP if it kils, every match has unbeatable campers, etc etc.


I disagree. I'm pretty sure that If a poll gets posted If you care more about your K/d or W/L the Ngu community will vote on K/d. I know this because I have posted such Poll before.
05-07-2012, 03:22 AM #36
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
Originally posted by psameht View Post
I disagree. I'm pretty sure that If a poll gets posted If you care more about your K/d or W/L the Ngu community will vote on K/d. I know this because I have posted such Poll before.


True. People here like to contradict themselves though. How many guys have you seen that will complain and complain yet if you question if they just may suck they will spew some ridiculously high kdr.

The higher your kdr can increase your chances of winning as long as your kdr isnt from hiding all game or totally ignoring objectives. In most game modes getting kills and minimizing deatha is thw easiest way to win.

It's like a team thay has a lot of star players. They are more talented usually wins unless thwy don't function as a team and face players that play together.

I care about both. Maintaining a good w/l is easier though. Just play in a party. I could play 10 games solo and maintain a 5+ kdr but only win 6 games. Or 10 games in party of 6+ and maintain 3 kdr and win 9 games. I choose the latter.

Caring about kdr should be moreso about wanting to consistently dominate and win. The minute your kdr is so important that you have to hide all game or arw willing to take losses, THAT is when there is a seriously problem. Most COD plauers are casual and not very good so of you party up with friends kills will come and so will wins.

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05-07-2012, 10:42 AM #37
LuckyAiden
Samurai Poster
Originally posted by Justice View Post
To me you have to have a mixture of killing and defending.

People fail to realize that being able to maintain 2 flags is the main key to winning in Domination at least.

If you can get kills you can usually cap flags. If you can get 70 kills then there is no reason your team shouldn't be able to cap flags and dominate. The people who can't get very minute kills always find a reason to hate. Killwhoring is ok as long as it's helping the team. And if you're playing randoms the odds of them getting more than 25 kills is slim so they should be capping flags and shooting air support because what else can they do?

The funniest guys are the ones losing 180-40 yet still bunching up getting killed for a meaningless flag.


A good 6 party man for domination would do this : Go all 6 to a flag when they want it e.g Flag B which is a pain in the ass to get in maps such as Bootleg and Dome & hardhat . Once you guys got the flag you wanted half stay at a flag for the whole game & the other half run around the other flag we got and when it calsm down we try to cap the third one. Nothing more, nothing less. Thats what we do and we keep winning 200-50 or so ..

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