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When I heard JD_2020 say in an interview how much the fans hated camper maps & they was responding to it. The logical side of my brain said "Yes! campers will fail on the new maps!" Now after playing, I see I was wrong. There are more Stairs, Holes, & Windows to camp than ever!! They apparently think the way to stop camping is to throw some obstacles in a snipers path... Even though, More times than not, The camper will have an SMG. And betties work like a charm because the size and low # of doors to each building. They was under the influence that noobs camp because they have no other choice. But now, With large awesome battlefields with plenty of cover, They are finding out that the MP40 noobs will always hide in a dark corner cause they're cowards. But... I still love the maps and feel they will be much better when I get to play them on war, CTF, sabotage, etc...