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03-20-2012, 01:22 AM #1
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So i want to make a program! I dont know much but im willing to learn and i need helpSmile
What i dont know is.
What language i should use?
Can it conect to a sever if i want to make a application for andriod and os phones
i need it to be able to store data for alot of information
can it have a nice GUI and will it be stable if i dont mess up and i mean that like will the data not mess up?

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03-20-2012, 02:00 AM #2
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Originally posted by Saucy
So i want to make a program! I dont know much but im willing to learn and i need helpSmile
What i dont know is.
What language i should use?
Can it conect to a sever if i want to make a application for andriod and os phones
i need it to be able to store data for alot of information
can it have a nice GUI and will it be stable if i dont mess up and i mean that like will the data not mess up?



I don't get it, do you want to make an app or a program?
03-20-2012, 02:39 AM #3
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Originally posted by Team
I don't get it, do you want to make an app or a program?



I want to make a program for now but i want it to be able to be updated and be able to conect to a server in the future when i get the program out there to use with phones and other stuff?
03-20-2012, 02:57 AM #4
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Originally posted by Saucy
I want to make a program for now but i want it to be able to be updated and be able to conect to a server in the future when i get the program out there to use with phones and other stuff?


That would be for much more advanced programmers, you need to start out small then work up.

Maybe try creating a hello world program.
03-20-2012, 03:11 AM #5
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Originally posted by Team
That would be for much more advanced programmers, you need to start out small then work up.

Maybe try creating a hello world program.



I can do that in javascript already! but im looking for a app that can be on the computer and stay there for now im not worried about learning because im good at that! i just wanna know whats a good language! and when i find that language ill use it and i dont think this is going to go fast either so im not worried about that and sorry about grammer im just stressed on if i can do this or not its for my uncle to keep ID on his cattle and scheduling
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03-20-2012, 03:41 AM #6
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Originally posted by Saucy
I can do that in javascript already! but im looking for a app that can be on the computer and stay there for now im not worried about learning because im good at that! i just wanna know whats a good language! and when i find that language ill use it and i dont think this is going to go fast either so im not worried about that and sorry about grammer im just stressed on if i can do this or not its for my uncle to keep ID on his cattle and scheduling
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Firstly Javascript is a web-based language.

If you want to create a program/application on your computer you should try to learn C#.

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03-20-2012, 03:49 AM #7
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Originally posted by Saucy
I can do that in javascript already! but im looking for a app that can be on the computer and stay there for now im not worried about learning because im good at that! i just wanna know whats a good language! and when i find that language ill use it and i dont think this is going to go fast either so im not worried about that and sorry about grammer im just stressed on if i can do this or not its for my uncle to keep ID on his cattle and scheduling
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Speaking from experience, you're taking the wrong approach to programming. Most of programming is language-agnostic (at least if you do it right). The language is merely a vessel through which you communicate your thoughts - much like English. Continuing with that metaphor, you can master the grammar and spelling of the English language, but that doesn't necessarily make you an award-winning author or essayist. The same is true with programming, there is a clear difference between knowing the syntax of the language, and knowing how to use that language to express yourself (which depends on the language to some degree, but I'd bet a skilled C++ programmer can easily pick up Java or C# in a week and be more skilled than a first-time programmer who's been at it for a month).

It takes months, most likely years, to even achieve competency as a programmer. To master programming takes years, in fact, I'd say it's impossible to truly master programming in a lifetime.

If programming is something that interests you, that you are passionate about, then forget the projects, forget the languages - learn to program the right way (you won't regret it). Don't dwell on such small, insignificant things. If you're not passionate about programming, then programming is not for you - and the project is not for you.

Having said that, I'm sympathetic to the fact that you want to help your uncle. If you'd like to hack out an ugly little app for the iPhone and Android, you'll likely want to learn two languages: Objective-C and Java. The primary language for iOS development is Objective-C, and the primary language for Android development is Java. You can use others, but those are great for beginners. Interfacing with a database is fairly easy once you understand how it's done; but will take some experience. My recommendation, if you really want to help your uncle, is that you ought to refer him to a professional freelance developer (it may be more expensive, but don't forget, maintaining a server and distributing apps can also get expensive - plus, this way, you'll be able to have a good product).


Out of curiosity, how much JavaScript do you know? What programming experience do you have with it?

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03-20-2012, 04:57 PM #8
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Originally posted by Epic
Speaking from experience, you're taking the wrong approach to programming. Most of programming is language-agnostic (at least if you do it right). The language is merely a vessel through which you communicate your thoughts - much like English. Continuing with that metaphor, you can master the grammar and spelling of the English language, but that doesn't necessarily make you an award-winning author or essayist. The same is true with programming, there is a clear difference between knowing the syntax of the language, and knowing how to use that language to express yourself (which depends on the language to some degree, but I'd bet a skilled C++ programmer can easily pick up Java or C# in a week and be more skilled than a first-time programmer who's been at it for a month).

It takes months, most likely years, to even achieve competency as a programmer. To master programming takes years, in fact, I'd say it's impossible to truly master programming in a lifetime.

If programming is something that interests you, that you are passionate about, then forget the projects, forget the languages - learn to program the right way (you won't regret it). Don't dwell on such small, insignificant things. If you're not passionate about programming, then programming is not for you - and the project is not for you.

Having said that, I'm sympathetic to the fact that you want to help your uncle. If you'd like to hack out an ugly little app for the iPhone and Android, you'll likely want to learn two languages: Objective-C and Java. The primary language for iOS development is Objective-C, and the primary language for Android development is Java. You can use others, but those are great for beginners. Interfacing with a database is fairly easy once you understand how it's done; but will take some experience. My recommendation, if you really want to help your uncle, is that you ought to refer him to a professional freelance developer (it may be more expensive, but don't forget, maintaining a server and distributing apps can also get expensive - plus, this way, you'll be able to have a good product).


Out of curiosity, how much JavaScript do you know? What programming experience do you have with it?



Firstly thanks for your advice but i'd like to build this application for my uncles computer first and if its really nice and simple to use i'd like to sell it! I know it wont look pretty at first but im sure if i can do then whats out there and if i can i will sell my product to other farmers and then ill plan on hiring other programmers to help me with making it better but right now im just trying to get a good working product out there! i know its not gonna be easy but if i do it there will be plenty of money out there for the program and then i can get a team to get a full scale product!

My uncle is a big time dairy farmer! and he's in politics pretty good to so im sure its its great he will get me what i need!

secondly, I dont know much javascript but ive been learning it like crazy latley and ive completed code academy to which helped me more! I mean i can read Alot of javascript stuff and understand whats happening so i guess ive done learned a lot in the last month!




And i just sent you 25 rep which i didnt know i could send that much lol and i need to get team six but ive thatnked him so much i cant anymore

---------- Post added at 12:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:48 PM ----------

Originally posted by Team
Firstly Javascript is a web-based language.

If you want to create a program/application on your computer you should try to learn C#.

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Thanks ill take a look!
03-22-2012, 03:33 AM #9
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Originally posted by Team
Firstly Javascript is a web-based language.

If you want to create a program/application on your computer you should try to learn C#.

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C-Objective, C#, C++ for either Computer Programs/Games and or then Apple Games/Apps.

Java if you want to make programs/games for computer or if you want to make games for phones/devices that read Java such as a HTC.

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03-22-2012, 03:36 AM #10
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Originally posted by Sublimity View Post
C-Objective, C#, C++ for either Computer Programs/Games and or then Apple Games/Apps.

Java if you want to make programs/games for computer or if you want to make games for phones/devices that read Java such as a HTC.


By HTC you mean Android. Drack

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