Post: Drunk Driving vs Stoned Driving
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10-30-2010, 09:33 PM
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*In this thread, I'm going to talk about the effects or Drunk Driving compared to Driving while High.*
Drunk Driving
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Facts:
Every single injury and death caused by drunk driving is completely preventable, yet this seems to be an insolvable daily problem. Although the proportion of crashes that are alcohol-related has dropped dramatically in recent decades, there are still far too many such preventable accidents. Unfortunately, in spite of great progress, alcohol-impaired driving remains a serious national problem that tragically effects many victims annually. Most drivers who have had something to drink have low blood alcohol content or concentration (BAC) and few are involved in fatal crashes. On the other hand, while only a few drivers have BACs higher than .15, a much higher proportion of those drivers have fatal crashes. It's insanely clear that drunk driving causes deaths.
Statistics:
-The average BAC among fatally injured drinking drivers is .16
-The relative risk of death for drivers in single-vehicle crashes with a high BAC is 385 times that of a zero-BAC driver and for male drivers the risk is 707 times that of a sober driver, according to estimates by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS).
-High BAC drivers tend to be male, aged 25-35, and have a history of DWI convictions and polydrug abuse.
-Between 1991 and 2008, the rate of alcohol impaired driving fatalities per 100,000 population has decreased 38% nationally, and 55% among those under 21.
-According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration 37,261 people died in traffic crashes in 2008 in the United States,including an estimated 11,773 people who were killed in drunk driving crashes involving a driver with an illegal BAC (.08 or greater).
The Result:
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Now obviously, I'm not against Alcohol what so ever, but i am really against drinking and driving. Personal experience shows that i can drive fine with a beer or 2, but there have been times where i could not walk, let alone drive. So guy's, Please make the right choice. It's really not wroth losing lives over.
Stoned Driving
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Facts:
Concerns about stoned drivers careening across our nation's highways are frequently cited as a justification for the continued criminalization of marijuana. Given the massive casualties associated with drunk driving, it's easy to understand how the specter of increased roadside fatalities can be effective in reinforcing negative attitudes about marijuana. However, a new report reveals that, while stoned driving isn't smart, it's hardly the death sentence some would have us believe. Compared to driving drunk, stoned driving is a breeze. NORML's Paul Armentano has prepared a scientific review of over a dozen studies evaluating marijuana's effect on psychomotor skills and the risks posed by marijuana intoxication behind the wheel. Armentano finds that marijuana impairment is generally "subtle and short-lived," falling far short of the threats posed by drunk driving. Also, unlike subjects impaired by alcohol, individuals under the influence of cannabis tend to be aware of their impairment and try to compensate for it accordingly, either by driving more cautiously or by expressing an unwillingness to drive altogether.
Statistics:
Watch this video..It's a really good experiment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z5jkYvKscw&feature=player_embedded#!
-I looked for more statistics to post along with this, but couldn't really find much of driving while stoned...Maybe because it's never fatal?
The Result:
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You might drive a bit slower, but i believe that is about it
If anything, your more focused.
Through personal experience of driving stoned everyday, i believe that driving stoned is completely safe. My driving record is clean too by the way. I tend to maybe go a bit slow, even more cautious if anything. I never feel like driving recklessly when im stoned either, i simply drive normally.
Overall,the message is...........
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Drunk Driving
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Facts:
Every single injury and death caused by drunk driving is completely preventable, yet this seems to be an insolvable daily problem. Although the proportion of crashes that are alcohol-related has dropped dramatically in recent decades, there are still far too many such preventable accidents. Unfortunately, in spite of great progress, alcohol-impaired driving remains a serious national problem that tragically effects many victims annually. Most drivers who have had something to drink have low blood alcohol content or concentration (BAC) and few are involved in fatal crashes. On the other hand, while only a few drivers have BACs higher than .15, a much higher proportion of those drivers have fatal crashes. It's insanely clear that drunk driving causes deaths.
Statistics:
-The average BAC among fatally injured drinking drivers is .16
-The relative risk of death for drivers in single-vehicle crashes with a high BAC is 385 times that of a zero-BAC driver and for male drivers the risk is 707 times that of a sober driver, according to estimates by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS).
-High BAC drivers tend to be male, aged 25-35, and have a history of DWI convictions and polydrug abuse.
-Between 1991 and 2008, the rate of alcohol impaired driving fatalities per 100,000 population has decreased 38% nationally, and 55% among those under 21.
-According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration 37,261 people died in traffic crashes in 2008 in the United States,including an estimated 11,773 people who were killed in drunk driving crashes involving a driver with an illegal BAC (.08 or greater).
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It takes 8,460 bolts to assemble an automobile, and one nut to scatter it all over the road.
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How is education supposed to make me feel smarter? Besides, every time I learn something new, it pushes some old stuff out of my brain. Remember when I took that home winemaking course, and I forgot how to drive? ~Matt Groening
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Now obviously, I'm not against Alcohol what so ever, but i am really against drinking and driving. Personal experience shows that i can drive fine with a beer or 2, but there have been times where i could not walk, let alone drive. So guy's, Please make the right choice. It's really not wroth losing lives over.
Stoned Driving
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Facts:
Concerns about stoned drivers careening across our nation's highways are frequently cited as a justification for the continued criminalization of marijuana. Given the massive casualties associated with drunk driving, it's easy to understand how the specter of increased roadside fatalities can be effective in reinforcing negative attitudes about marijuana. However, a new report reveals that, while stoned driving isn't smart, it's hardly the death sentence some would have us believe. Compared to driving drunk, stoned driving is a breeze. NORML's Paul Armentano has prepared a scientific review of over a dozen studies evaluating marijuana's effect on psychomotor skills and the risks posed by marijuana intoxication behind the wheel. Armentano finds that marijuana impairment is generally "subtle and short-lived," falling far short of the threats posed by drunk driving. Also, unlike subjects impaired by alcohol, individuals under the influence of cannabis tend to be aware of their impairment and try to compensate for it accordingly, either by driving more cautiously or by expressing an unwillingness to drive altogether.
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Although acute cannabis intoxication following smoking has been shown to mildly impair psychomotor skills, this impairment is seldom severe or long lasting
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In closed course and driving simulator studies, marijuana’s acute effects on psychomotor performance include minor impairments in tracking (eye movement control) and reaction time, as well as variation in lateral positioning, headway (drivers under the influence of cannabis tend to follow less closely to the vehicle in front of them), and speed (drivers tend to decrease speed following cannabis inhalation). In general, these variations in driving behavior are noticeably less consistent or pronounced than the impairments exhibited by subjects under the influence of alcohol
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Whenever someone claims that marijuana makes you sick or crazy; that it will cause you to crash your car, kill your comrades, or catastrophically co-opt your common sense, just look for the corpses. Where are they? I've looked high and low, but I can't find the disastrous consequences of marijuana use apparent anywhere other than the Drug Czar's predictably propagandized press releases.
Statistics:
Watch this video..It's a really good experiment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z5jkYvKscw&feature=player_embedded#!
-I looked for more statistics to post along with this, but couldn't really find much of driving while stoned...Maybe because it's never fatal?
The Result:
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You might drive a bit slower, but i believe that is about it
If anything, your more focused.Through personal experience of driving stoned everyday, i believe that driving stoned is completely safe. My driving record is clean too by the way. I tend to maybe go a bit slow, even more cautious if anything. I never feel like driving recklessly when im stoned either, i simply drive normally.
Overall,the message is...........
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11-01-2010, 12:44 AM
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Originally posted by chrisman
this is why we should pass prop 19
True that man...check out my Prop 19 thread :p : You must login or register to view this content.
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Originally posted by X
All about being Drunk and Stoned going 100. Maann that shit is fun, dangerous, but mostly fun!
Going 100 sober is fun too..and dangerous depending on the roads lol. But yea, drunk speeding is blatantly retarded.
11-01-2010, 12:56 AM
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Originally posted by King
Well the only reason you dont believe it is because your a stoner yourself. I mean im not making assumptions or anything, just saying.
No need to be a smartass though.
No need to be a smartass though.
So because im a "stoner" im blind to the fact's? i believe i know more than you do about this. Personal experience > what people tell you. So again, show me proof of somebody getting into a deadly accident while stoned. It doesn't work if it was traced in his body, that shit stays in your system for atleast a month anyways. So, once again, PROOF or GTFO.
11-01-2010, 06:46 AM
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Originally posted by King
Check the news, believe me you will see it. I mean there is facts to support that weed can cause dealy accidents as well. It does slow your reflexes down a good bit. You cant react as well as you could sober. I mean im not picking on you or saying weed is the worst. Im just saying, both could have the same outcome
i completely disagree. Weed and alcohol does not have the same result. Man, weed is not deadly, im sorry but that is a fact.
11-02-2010, 03:27 AM
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Originally posted by King
Its an age old debate. We are going to have different views. Saying this though, the way weed affects people is different
like how they react to it
like how they react to it
it's different yet similar..like, no one's gonna smoke weed and feel like they just shot up heroine or something like that. Plus, different weed = different high. There are 3 types my nigga. Sativa, Indica, Hybrids. Sativas = alert high, mind high, cerebral effects and you don't get tired. Indicas = body high, feel heavy, and most of the time tired after, good for the night time :y:. Hybrids, well the name says it all. So depending on what type of weed you try, the reactions and effects could vary. BUT still, it's not gonna make you feel like your on blow, heroine, meth or any of that ****ed up shit.
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