(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); This video is amazing. It explains everything from what happen to 2pac to Michael Jackson to Eminem to DMX. It's amazing how much evidence is shown. I would watch it all in one session. Although its about 2 hours...The spookiness of it makes it interesting.

Oh for f*ck sake, do we really need to polute the debate section with conspiracy bullshit? This is nonsense and anyone with any common sense knows this.

There is no illuminati. There is no big conspiracy. The music industry is a capitalistic venture in which people vye for market share amongst people by selling entertainment. They're not trying to start a "new world order", they're not lizard people, they're not aliens, they're not psychically manipulating the planet and they don't have the philosopher's stone either.

How hard is it for people to grasp that the only conspiracy in the music industry is the conspiracy to make f*ck tonnes of money, and they succeed at that quite openly. Seriously, familyyguy, all the posts I've seem by you have been about conspiracy theories and the "illuminati". It's pathetic. Do you really need to make up shit just to make your life more interesting? You have a PS3 there, why don't you play it instead of making up stupid shit and listening to other wako's making up stuff on the internet. At least if you're playing PS3 games you're doing something vaguely useful... giving people on CoD something to shoot at.

No one gives a **** about you're opinion. Why the **** are you always trying to start shit with me. Bitch you want to talk shit? OK lets go,

First off I'd take the word of a full effort, greatly put together 2 hour video than some random mother****er on a forum who didn't even ****ing watch the whole thing. Right now you're making yourself look dumb as ****. How pathetic is it that you have to write 3 paragraphs to try to get me mad. If you want a ****ing problem with me here you got one. I just came on this forum and you wanna disrespect me, my religion, etc. Bitch I'm not scared of you. Don't talk about the music industry when you don't even ****ing live in America dip shit.

What's next are you going to tell me 9/11 was done by the terrorist? Please... I'm not a big fan of the illuminati conspiracy either but their are some ****ed up shit with the government and you. I rather believe actual facts by experts who took the time out their day to research something that looked out of place. Then listen to some hypocrites on the ****ing Fox News or some idiot on the internet. i swear people like you are what make me give up on the world..

I am not going to watch the video as I have seen enough of them. Show me a peer edit essay done by one of these conspirators and then maybe we can have a proper discussion.

Tell me you're honest opinion, who do you think were responsible for the attacks on 9/11?

Actually I think you'll find my opinion is held in quite high reguard on this forum. So much so in fact that I was nominated and runner-up in the votes for the "smartest member" of the forum this year even though I was inactive and had been a member for less than a month. I have a reputation quickly approaching 5000 yet I have a post count of less than 100. I put effort and thought into my posts. You post pointless crap. In fact, your opinion is so universally ignored, that you've been threatened with an infraction and almost have a larger post count than rep count. You are a nothing on this forum and will likely stay a nothing based on the past few post's you've made.


I've replied to you in two threads, that's hardly "always" now is it? But sure, let's go... go where though. Oh right, you're doing the internet hard-man thing. That's cute.


Actually, I didn't even press play. I haven't watched a single second of it. I don't need to watch it to know it's bullshit, it's premise alone gave it away. But then, it is a 2 hour video so it can't possibly be false could it. You do realise that having the money to make a documentary, especially today when you can do it for essencially nothing if you have editing skills and a camera (technology is a wonderous thing), doesn't make your ideas, opinions or beliefs correct.


You're a vile, angry, petulant little child who believes a disgusting bigotted hate-filled religion and treats others without respect, compassion or dignity. So yet I will disrespect you, I will outright mock and belittle you. Why? Because you f*cking deserve it. As for me writing three paragraphs, I didn't realise the forum had a character limit. Are you intimidated by the fact that you're arguing with someone literate? Someone who's thoughts are compex enough, who's opinions are thought out enough, and who's responses are in depth enough to be more than an emoticon and a badly spelt tweet. I realise you've just arrived on this forum, and I don't care, quite frankly I'd rather you leave. As far as I'm concerned you're not welcome her. You're a thoroughly unpleasant person who lowers the overall quality of this forum.


BOO! Not even now.


Oh yeah. Sorry I forgot, people outside of USA have only heard of music through rumour, we've never actually experienced the phenomenon first hand. Grow the f*ck up you pathetic waste of skin. Living in the same political boarders as someone or something does not make you an expert on it. Hell, I'm also not Italian, but I know who Leonado Di Vinci is... Oh right, Sorry. I keep forgetting you're an idiot... and an American too. Wow. What a disadvantage you have. Americans are known for their ignorance of other countries so naturally it's only right you'd assume all people are as pig-headed as you, add in your tendancy to think with your anus and we're destined for trouble.


Nooo. 9/11 was done by a very angry bunny rabbit. Quite frankly, I hope there are no New Yorkers present to hear your disgusting pathetic paranoid delusions. It wasn't so long ago that those people may still be grieving. While I'm happy to support free speech, I sincerely hope you don't spit on the memories of those people just to satisfy your brain farts. And to think, I, a foreigner, have to tell you an American (I presume based on previous statements), to consider the memories of people killed in your country in an attack fueled by nothing but bigotry and hate. You should be ashamed.


What, so I'm involved am I.


Well, at least you hate Fox News, that's a start. But if I make you give up on the world, GOOD! Get your genes out of the breeding population. Express-mail your soul to the God of your choice and please do it quickly before you waste another valuable gulp of MY AIR! Nobody want's you here, or for that matter at all. You are a complete and total waste of skin and you would be doing us all a favour if you threw yourself into a river, preferably from a very high bridge.

Thank you for you time. Hugs and kisses.
Your worst nightmare for as long as you're still posting on NGU.

lol thats a long video

lol, Its funny that you think I'm American. I live in America, but i was born in North Iraq. You traumatically say I'm disrespecting the victims of 9/11 to make me look like I'm some douche bag. Well let me tell you that i have a bunch of friends who's family members died in 9/11. I live right next to New York. So what makes you think that i have no respect for the victims? Saying what i think went down on that day doesn't affect that at all. Those people are dead. And their families deserve to know who killed them instead of just blindly listening to the news outlets. Their are actually multiple American organizations who support the 9/11 conspiracy. 911 truth is one of them. There are many more but too much to name on the top of my head. But what im trying to stress is that you are a racist. And it seems that you are proud of it. You're telling me that im waste less piece of skin, because i believe in a religion of peace, but when people like yourself ride around the internet trying to provoke racial hate and discrimination, i think you're the pathetic one. Have you ever heard of Mohammed Ali? Yea he was Muslim. You heard of Malcom X? yea he was Muslim too. If you think these great people are all terrorist, than you are truly a worthless scumbag.

Who the f*ck are you to tell me if im not welcome on this forum? Seriously you just joined here. I don't care if you don't "like" my religion. I'm here because i want to be here, and you can't tell me if im welcome here or not.

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Lets move this debate to the God vs Fact thread shall we?

Terrorist. Show me one other peer edit essay proving otherwise.

You live in America, I assume you're not there on holiday so that makes you. A F*CKING AMERICAN YOU RETARD!


So what, there are multiple American organisations who consider Jesus their lord and savour but you don't agree with them. Just because there are people who agree with you doesn't mean you're right. It just means your a paranoid moron with another paranoid moron friend or two.


Actually no. A racist hates people because of their race. I have no issue with your skin colour or the place you where born. Doesn't bother me in the slightest. Islam is not a race, it's a religion. You don't choose your race. You actively and willingly choose to be a Muslim. Therefore when I say Islam disgusts me and people who follow it are sick, I F*CKING MEAN IT! You choose to follow the teachings of a racist, sexist, homophobic, power-hungry, warmongering, violent religion. I hate you for that, not your race, not your country, not even your religion (which I do hate), but YOU SPECIFICALLY!


Damn straight. Islam is vile and I am proud that I speak out against bigotry, sexism, homophobia, violence, war and child molestation. I think most people would be proud to be decent moral people. Not you though apparently.


YOUR SO CALLED RELIGION OF PEACE CRASHED PLANES INTO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER AND BOMBED THE LONDON SUBWAY SYSTEM YOU EVIL F*CK. NOW F*CK OFF.


No, I don't think they're terrorists you simple minded little prick. I do however think they're either one of two things.

1. Following the traditions of a religion they don't fully understand or really believe in largely because they where brought up with that religion and never really questioned it. This is where most Muslims fall, because if anyone actually questions Islam and is still a Muslim they become...

2. A bigotted, hate filled, homophobic, sexist, violent person who supports genocide, child molestation, mutilation, torture and the spread of Islam by the sword. If they still follow this religon after actually looking into it properly, they are sick people and I think of them as scum. Don't like that. TUFF SHIT!


I'm TornadoCreator motherf*cker, and you're now my bitch. Whatever you post, I'll be there to tear it appart. Whatever you say, I'll be there to prove it wrong and mock you for it. I'm the guy you don't want to f*ck with on the forum, not because I'm an internet tough guy. But because, while I have "just joined" as you said (even though I've been a member longer than you), I've proven that I'm a well read intellectual on this forum and my words carry a fair amount of weight. When I speak people listen. People respect my opinion and I've come to respect theres (well at least some people, you know who you are), and no it's not just the rep either. I can say you're not welcome here because you're not. You won't last here... if you don't get banned for being quite frankly excessively offensive and/or agressive for what you perceive to be insults, you'll be driven off by the many people here who will find you to be nothing more than a conspiracy nut fundamentalist muslim who's here to cause trouble. I bet you'll be gone by the end of the month.

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Fair enough, let's keep it all in one thread.