Post: Is Suicide "The Coward's Way Out"?
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11-12-2011, 05:49 PM
#1
Blackstorm
Veni. Vidi. Vici.
Discuss.
I honestly think it is both. Yes it is cowardly because you are running away from your problems by just giving up and taking your life, and no because you have to have a lot of courage to take your own life. It's a very selfish thing to do though.
Side-note: Not I am not suicidal :b My life is great right now, I'm just curious on what other people think about the subject.
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12-15-2011, 11:32 PM
#20
Blackstorm
Veni. Vidi. Vici.
Originally posted by Kaspa
It doesn't take 'guts' you moron, it's reaching to the point of depression that you don't care. You're labelling it as if you've achieved maximum man-points for taking your own life for **** sake. Maybe you shouldn't have created this thread as it seems you lack any knowledge at all on depression and what one is thinking before coming near to ending their life, and to be honest it's quite insulting.
Anyway, on-topic. With experience with high depression, no, it isn't a cowards way out. It's the only exit to the person who considers suicide.
Anyway, on-topic. With experience with high depression, no, it isn't a cowards way out. It's the only exit to the person who considers suicide.
Keep it clean, bro. Those insults weren't necessary at all. I was just stating my point of view on the subject.
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12-16-2011, 01:46 AM
#21
Kaspa
MUDAMUDAMUDA!!!
Originally posted by Blackstorm
Keep it clean, bro. Those insults weren't necessary at all. I was just stating my point of view on the subject.
Sorry, but the way you phrased it was insulting to me so I replied with a negative attitude. Your view on it is quite idiotic if you mean that it's a 'cool' thing to accomplish, and that's exactly what it sounds like you're saying when you used the term guts.
You probably don't mean it that way though due to that being completely ****ing stupid, but that's how I read it, so I apologise if I've upset you in anyway.
12-16-2011, 02:09 AM
#22
Blackstorm
Veni. Vidi. Vici.
Originally posted by Kaspa
Sorry, but the way you phrased it was insulting to me so I replied with a negative attitude. Your view on it is quite idiotic if you mean that it's a 'cool' thing to accomplish, and that's exactly what it sounds like you're saying when you used the term guts.
You probably don't mean it that way though due to that being completely ****ing stupid, but that's how I read it, so I apologise if I've upset you in anyway.
You probably don't mean it that way though due to that being completely ****ing stupid, but that's how I read it, so I apologise if I've upset you in anyway.
Wow YOU'RE the moron if you saw it in that way. Nobody else in this thread saw it the way you saw it. The way you saw it is just inane and naive. Instead of flaming my point of view on the subject, why don't you get some anger management treatment. I never stated it in such a way that it looked like I had a concept of committing suicide as 'cool' you ignorant retard. What I meant by guts, is actually having the courage (non-heroic of course...) to actually go through with committing suicide. Now that we're even, keep it clean.
12-16-2011, 04:01 AM
#23
Kaspa
MUDAMUDAMUDA!!!
Originally posted by Blackstorm
Wow YOU'RE the moron if you saw it in that way. Nobody else in this thread saw it the way you saw it. The way you saw it is just inane and naive. Instead of flaming my point of view on the subject, why don't you get some anger management treatment. I never stated it in such a way that it looked like I had a concept of committing suicide as 'cool' you ignorant retard. What I meant by guts, is actually having the courage (non-heroic of course...) to actually go through with committing suicide. Now that we're even, keep it clean.
Well then yes you're a ****ing idiot if you believe courage comes into play with suicide. When one is in an extremely depressive state they don't care for anything, mostly of themselves. Please explain how courage comes into it? It's being in a very vulnerable state of mind with nothing but "If I was to kill myself, this pain would no longer torture me everyday of my life."
There's no courage with suicide, and I pity your stupidity for even considering it. Just another point by the way, even if courage was to come into it, which it doesn't because I've been near that state myself; courage would not be the difference between making something cowardly and or selfish.
sigh.
12-16-2011, 04:11 AM
#24
Assassin
Easter Egg!
I actually know a friend who used to cut herself and eventually tried suicide 3 times.. but how on gods earth does that make her a coward? she had a pretty sh*t childhood.. got abused a lot by her dad.. her parents divorced, she got bullied at school.. and and top of that, her parents didn`t give a crap about her.. her mum left and she had to live with her dad who still abused her. plus he had a drinking problem. and all that when she was 12-15.
She still isn`t over that fully.
If you went through what she did, would you really be happy and not have suicidal thoughts? i`m surprised at the ignorance of some people in this world.
say what you like.
She still isn`t over that fully.
If you went through what she did, would you really be happy and not have suicidal thoughts? i`m surprised at the ignorance of some people in this world.
say what you like.
12-16-2011, 04:16 AM
#25
Kaspa
MUDAMUDAMUDA!!!
Originally posted by Assassin.
I actually know a friend who used to cut herself and eventually tried suicide 3 times.. but how on gods earth does that make her a coward? she had a pretty sh*t childhood.. got abused a lot by her dad.. her parents divorced, she got bullied at school.. and and top of that, her parents didn`t give a crap about her.. her mum left and she had to live with her dad who still abused her. plus he had a drinking problem. and all that when she was 12-15.
She still isn`t over that fully.
If you went through what she did, would you really be happy and not have suicidal thoughts? i`m surprised at the arrogance of some people in this world.
say what you like.
She still isn`t over that fully.
If you went through what she did, would you really be happy and not have suicidal thoughts? i`m surprised at the arrogance of some people in this world.
say what you like.
Ignorant people who haven't been through anything remotely depressing believe that it's a cowards way out. Just you wait until they encounter something horrifically miserable we all go through in our lives, they will then understand and have sympathy for those who have had the misfortune of going through something so horrible that killing yourself is the only option.
12-16-2011, 04:28 AM
#26
Blackstorm
Veni. Vidi. Vici.
Originally posted by Kaspa
Well then yes you're a ****ing idiot if you believe courage comes into play with suicide. When one is in an extremely depressive state they don't care for anything, mostly of themselves. Please explain how courage comes into it? It's being in a very vulnerable state of mind with nothing but "If I was to kill myself, this pain would no longer torture me everyday of my life."
There's no courage with suicide, and I pity your stupidity for even considering it. Just another point by the way, even if courage was to come into it, which it doesn't because I've been near that state myself; courage would not be the difference between making something cowardly and or selfish.
sigh.
There's no courage with suicide, and I pity your stupidity for even considering it. Just another point by the way, even if courage was to come into it, which it doesn't because I've been near that state myself; courage would not be the difference between making something cowardly and or selfish.
sigh.
There is no courage? You know a lot of people are afraid of death and committing suicide is literally murdering yourself and dying. Now tell me, would someone in a horrible state of mind like that and is considering suicide and NOT AFRAID of death to actually go through with it not considered brave? If you look up the opposite of scared, courage and bravery comes out. Which means you're NOT AFRAID. I think you're seeing me as saying that you see yourself as a hero for doing that. Well I'm not. Read it correctly you ****ing idiot.
---------- Post added at 09:28 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:25 PM ----------
Originally posted by Ownage
Everyone thinks it has something to do with guts, etc. It is nothing related to that. Its all about what mental state of mind you are in and that time. Most people who turn to suicide have some sort of mental problem, depression, bi-polar, etc. So having "gut" has nothing to do with it.
You're in a state of not caring, but you must also not be afraid of death to do it. Having gut would mean you are willing to go through with it because you're not afraid and you just don't care anymore... Get me?
12-16-2011, 04:36 AM
#27
Kaspa
MUDAMUDAMUDA!!!
Originally posted by Blackstorm
There is no courage? You know a lot of people are afraid of death and committing suicide is literally murdering yourself and dying. Now tell me, would someone in a horrible state of mind like that and is considering suicide and NOT AFRAID of death to actually go through with it not considered brave? If you look up the opposite of scared, courage and bravery comes out. Which means you're NOT AFRAID. I think you're seeing me as saying that you see yourself as a hero for doing that. Well I'm not. Read it correctly you ****ing idiot.
Basically what Ownage has posted. You don't have the thought of dying on your mind, what's on your mind is an escape from constant pain.
12-16-2011, 04:43 AM
#28
Jakes625
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Absolutely not. If it's the coward's way out, and your not thinking of your family. (that's completely wrong) if so they your family doesn't give a crap about you, and there are being selfish. I just think the pain is so unbearable it's not even humane, to not kill yourself.
As of my personal experience, there's times when I felt so picked on, not given a shit about (yeah by parents), and then got broke, and lived on the streets for a week (over christmas, yeah it sucked). But I never turned to suicide, in fact I had constant thought's about murdering people, and I couldn't think straight, I was going dillusional. The only way I felt better: eminem. I know you think it's corny but his life was pretty much mine, I felt like I could relate, and it made me feel better. Now im good, but there was dark times
As of my personal experience, there's times when I felt so picked on, not given a shit about (yeah by parents), and then got broke, and lived on the streets for a week (over christmas, yeah it sucked). But I never turned to suicide, in fact I had constant thought's about murdering people, and I couldn't think straight, I was going dillusional. The only way I felt better: eminem. I know you think it's corny but his life was pretty much mine, I felt like I could relate, and it made me feel better. Now im good, but there was dark times
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