Post: [Stop Censorship]S.O.P.A Help keep our freedom!
Options
01-14-2012, 04:23 PM
#1
MasterBaitor
< ^ > < ^ >
You must login or register to view this content.
"The more things become forbidden, the more popularity they gain." ~Mark Twain
Forgive me for the many spelling mistakes :p
Feel free to play the following while reading this post, "sets the mood": You must login or register to view this content.
Seeing as NGU is involved in this movement (like me), I wanted to make sure that everybody understood what this "censorship" thing is al about.
~~Updating everytime i get more news~~
What is SOPA? Why is it important?
SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act) has been proposed by the US government in october 2011, its objective is to help fight copyright infragment material. (**Basically you wont be able to download your favorite movies,tv shows, music, FACEBOOk,TWITTER,etc) You might bbe worndering why would facebook,twitter, any website to stream online movies etc be blocked. Its simple, if SOPA gets approved it would have a very hard time to control these websites from spreading the copyright material so they will ahve to be shut down.SOmething i want to make very clear is that not only will it stop the copyright infragment but it will also stop freedom of speech For example, lets say that a reporter uploads important news to youtube it will be blocked, or even worse if he writes his news in a blog and links it youtube or a website that SOPA doesnt approved that website will be blocked as well.
Whats bad about illegal downloads being stopped?
Im not going to take sides here, this is personal opinion. I believe that every author deserves money for their hard work. But also there is people that simply dont have the access to certain programs other people have. SO the only way they can get them is by downloading them illegally.
:lol: Im not in america WHY SHOULD I CARE?
It will affect you not directly exactly. However most sites have an american DOMAIN that will still stop you froma ccesing it even tho you are not in america.
"HA! I will just use VPN :mask:
Sorry to break it to you, but what gets blocked is the website so using VPN wont make a difference :cry:
How can i acces them if this does happen? HOW CAN I STOP IT?
The only way that occurs to me (please share if you have any other ideas) is by ip adress.
How can you stop it. The only real way is by supporting all the people against it
Two websites that help prevent this awful law from beign approved
You must login or register to view this content.
You must login or register to view this content.
Conclusion:
"The more things become forbidden, the more popularity they gain." ~Mark Twain
Feel free to play the following while reading this post, "sets the mood": You must login or register to view this content.
Seeing as NGU is involved in this movement (like me), I wanted to make sure that everybody understood what this "censorship" thing is al about.
~~Updating everytime i get more news~~
What is SOPA? Why is it important?
SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act) has been proposed by the US government in october 2011, its objective is to help fight copyright infragment material. (**Basically you wont be able to download your favorite movies,tv shows, music, FACEBOOk,TWITTER,etc) You might bbe worndering why would facebook,twitter, any website to stream online movies etc be blocked. Its simple, if SOPA gets approved it would have a very hard time to control these websites from spreading the copyright material so they will ahve to be shut down.SOmething i want to make very clear is that not only will it stop the copyright infragment but it will also stop freedom of speech For example, lets say that a reporter uploads important news to youtube it will be blocked, or even worse if he writes his news in a blog and links it youtube or a website that SOPA doesnt approved that website will be blocked as well.
Whats bad about illegal downloads being stopped?
Im not going to take sides here, this is personal opinion. I believe that every author deserves money for their hard work. But also there is people that simply dont have the access to certain programs other people have. SO the only way they can get them is by downloading them illegally.
:lol: Im not in america WHY SHOULD I CARE?
It will affect you not directly exactly. However most sites have an american DOMAIN that will still stop you froma ccesing it even tho you are not in america.
"HA! I will just use VPN :mask:
Sorry to break it to you, but what gets blocked is the website so using VPN wont make a difference :cry:
How can i acces them if this does happen? HOW CAN I STOP IT?
The only way that occurs to me (please share if you have any other ideas) is by ip adress.
How can you stop it. The only real way is by supporting all the people against it
Two websites that help prevent this awful law from beign approved
You must login or register to view this content.
You must login or register to view this content.
Conclusion:
- You will have to pay for warez
- Your freedom of speech rights will be abused
- Even though ur not in america it WILL STILL AFFECT U!
- Might harm the development of future websites
You must login or register to view this content.
Fun facts:
- Sopa in spanish means soup =D
- Sopa in greek means Shut up
y
LEARN MORE:
You must login or register to view this content.
You must login or register to view this content.
VIDEO ADDED BY You must login or register to view this content.
UPDATE BY You must login or register to view this content.
You must login or register to view this content.
You must login or register to view this content.
You must login or register to view this content.
Glad its been stopped. At least for a year :y:
Originally posted by another user
VICTORY! Because of immense public pressure, the House Judiciary Committee cancelled their vote on the bill that would kill Internet innovation and free speech — and adjourned for the rest of the year!
The Internet fought back to protect the Internet — and we won, for now. We have to assemble our Internet army for next year, when this bill will come up again.
The Internet fought back to protect the Internet — and we won, for now. We have to assemble our Internet army for next year, when this bill will come up again.
You must login or register to view this content.
Glad its been stopped. At least for a year :y:
The following 53 users say thank you to MasterBaitor for this useful post:
-Daemon-, /RunDos/, Alt, Aluminium_Pig, Blackstorm, bmxrcodol04, ChillChiefly96, Convex, Coqui, Craig1690x, Cubs, DaenerysTargy, Dman93, Ehhx, Extrazior, forcer911, FoxkaZ, FuzzaMuzza, GangstaCupcake1, ghostbear, imD, IzBoogz, JOT, Jeremy, Kandy-MAN, LetMeHelpYou, LightModz, LilP, Lovol, Modus, Mr Grumpy, MrJC, Null ReacT, Omshivam, waltuO, PatriotsFan342, Pedobear, punkybear2102, Shebang, RaZoR!, Reaper, sonny356, Stansy, Trout, Vaanq, VHS, War Dogz, Meeky, xShadow, xVz, User2340034u
The following 9 users groaned at MasterBaitor for this awful post:
01-16-2012, 11:30 PM
#83
Just4Hax
"I will speak ill of
Originally posted by SantaClawZ
Read the 80 page write up of the bill, and tell me where it says NGU, YouTube, and Google will suffer. People need to stop assuming and learn the facts.
How about this?
You must login or register to view this content.
A member would be considered an operator of a site. Hence, if a youtube user posted ill material the website would be seized
You must login or register to view this content.
THE AG can go after the registrant, owner, or user. Still though, the site is seized for the time being.
It later mentions what the Service Provider needs or doesn't need to do.
-----------------------------------------------------
You must login or register to view this content.
They also require the search engine to remove them from the page.
You must login or register to view this content.
How about you stop assuming things?
01-16-2012, 11:34 PM
#84
SantaClawZ
I'm not new to this
Originally posted by Just4Hax
How about this?
You must login or register to view this content.
A member would be considered an operator of a site. Hence, if a youtube user posted ill material the website would be seized
You must login or register to view this content.
THE AG can go after the registrant, owner, or user. Still though, the site is seized for the time being.
It later mentions what the Service Provider needs or doesn't need to do.
-----------------------------------------------------
You must login or register to view this content.
They also require the search engine to remove them from the page.
You must login or register to view this content.
How about you stop assuming things?
You must login or register to view this content.
A member would be considered an operator of a site. Hence, if a youtube user posted ill material the website would be seized
You must login or register to view this content.
THE AG can go after the registrant, owner, or user. Still though, the site is seized for the time being.
It later mentions what the Service Provider needs or doesn't need to do.
-----------------------------------------------------
You must login or register to view this content.
They also require the search engine to remove them from the page.
You must login or register to view this content.
How about you stop assuming things?
The second section is about "Foreign Infringing Sites"
They are sites which hare hosted in another country but targets U.S. users with illegal content.
A fine example of a foreign infringing site would be ThePirateBay
Also, somewhere in there I read about a warning email sent to site owners to remove piracy on their site, the site isn't just shut down immediately. It's almost the same as the current DMCA regulations.
01-16-2012, 11:51 PM
#85
Just4Hax
"I will speak ill of
Originally posted by SantaClawZ
The second section is about "Foreign Infringing Sites"
They are sites which hare hosted in another country but targets U.S. users with illegal content.
A fine example of a foreign infringing site would be ThePirateBay
Also, somewhere in there I read about a warning email sent to site owners to remove piracy on their site, the site isn't just shut down immediately. It's almost the same as the current DMCA regulations.
They are sites which hare hosted in another country but targets U.S. users with illegal content.
A fine example of a foreign infringing site would be ThePirateBay
Also, somewhere in there I read about a warning email sent to site owners to remove piracy on their site, the site isn't just shut down immediately. It's almost the same as the current DMCA regulations.
I haven't read anything about an email yet, but I did read they would contact the ISP. As for the foreign issue, so your saying the main source of the piracy should go unpunished?
So if a 11 year old downloads Photoshop from let's say Pirate Bay the 11 year old is held responsible?
01-17-2012, 12:26 AM
#86
SantaClawZ
I'm not new to this
Originally posted by Just4Hax
I haven't read anything about an email yet, but I did read they would contact the ISP. As for the foreign issue, so your saying the main source of the piracy should go unpunished?
So if a 11 year old downloads Photoshop from let's say Pirate Bay the 11 year old is held responsible?
So if a 11 year old downloads Photoshop from let's say Pirate Bay the 11 year old is held responsible?
I forget the exact specifications for dealing with Foreign sites, but it could include the site being blocked off from U.S. users and it mentioned the Commerce Department getting involved.
At this point it's hard to determine what would happen in a specific case, as we have no prior events to judge it on.
01-17-2012, 01:37 AM
#87
Just4Hax
"I will speak ill of
Originally posted by SantaClawZ
I forget the exact specifications for dealing with Foreign sites, but it could include the site being blocked off from U.S. users and it mentioned the Commerce Department getting involved.
At this point it's hard to determine what would happen in a specific case, as we have no prior events to judge it on.
At this point it's hard to determine what would happen in a specific case, as we have no prior events to judge it on.
Look, we know minors are the main source of illegal downloads. As for CA piracy laws,
"A minor who violates this law may be fined $250. A minor who violates the law three or
more times may be fined $1,000 and/or imprisoned in county jail for up to one year"
Now keep in mind this is solely the government. Once we have movie/music organizations getting involved it will be even longer, so do you think a minor should have his life ruined over this issue?
01-18-2012, 01:25 PM
#88
benson81
Brute
OK so im from the UK and i have read alot of the info on here about it all of which is interesting. but what i dont understand is why it hasnt been mentioned in any press over here and you would have thought something this big would have got a mention but no we are kept in the dark about huge things like this daily.
if you could keep this thread updated over the timeline it would be great for all us non US people that this would effect
and ive noticed a few sites that have joined the blackout
MLG is participating in the anti-SOPA, anti-PIPA blackout today from 8:00 AM to 8:00 PM ET. All sites in our network will be down during this time. To learn more about the bills, visit You must login or register to view this content. and check out the ECA’s online info and tools here. Our sites will be up and running at 8:00 PM ET tonight.
could i ask a question though whats the difference between anti sopa and anti pipa whats the PIPA thing all about
if you could keep this thread updated over the timeline it would be great for all us non US people that this would effect
and ive noticed a few sites that have joined the blackout
MLG is participating in the anti-SOPA, anti-PIPA blackout today from 8:00 AM to 8:00 PM ET. All sites in our network will be down during this time. To learn more about the bills, visit You must login or register to view this content. and check out the ECA’s online info and tools here. Our sites will be up and running at 8:00 PM ET tonight.
could i ask a question though whats the difference between anti sopa and anti pipa whats the PIPA thing all about
01-18-2012, 06:15 PM
#89
Mr Grumpy
< ^ > < ^ >
Originally posted by MasterBaitor
You must login or register to view this content.
"The more things become forbidden, the more popularity they gain." ~Mark Twain
Forgive me for the many spelling mistakes :p
Feel free to play the following while reading this post, "sets the mood": You must login or register to view this content.
Seeing as NGU is involved in this movement (like me), I wanted to make sure that everybody understood what this "censorship" thing is al about.
~~Updating everytime i get more news~~
What is SOPA? Why is it important?
SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act) has been proposed by the US government in october 2011, its objective is to help fight copyright infragment material. (**Basically you wont be able to download your favorite movies,tv shows, music, FACEBOOk,TWITTER,etc) You might bbe worndering why would facebook,twitter, any website to stream online movies etc be blocked. Its simple, if SOPA gets approved it would have a very hard time to control these websites from spreading the copyright material so they will ahve to be shut down.SOmething i want to make very clear is that not only will it stop the copyright infragment but it will also stop freedom of speech For example, lets say that a reporter uploads important news to youtube it will be blocked, or even worse if he writes his news in a blog and links it youtube or a website that SOPA doesnt approved that website will be blocked as well.
Whats bad about illegal downloads being stopped?
Im not going to take sides here, this is personal opinion. I believe that every author deserves money for their hard work. But also there is people that simply dont have the access to certain programs other people have. SO the only way they can get them is by downloading them illegally.
:lol: Im not in america WHY SHOULD I CARE?
It will affect you not directly exactly. However most sites have an american DOMAIN that will still stop you froma ccesing it even tho you are not in america.
"HA! I will just use VPN :mask:
Sorry to break it to you, but what gets blocked is the website so using VPN wont make a difference :cry:
How can i acces them if this does happen? HOW CAN I STOP IT?
The only way that occurs to me (please share if you have any other ideas) is by ip adress.
How can you stop it. The only real way is by supporting all the people against it
Two websites that help prevent this awful law from beign approved
You must login or register to view this content.
You must login or register to view this content.
Conclusion:
"The more things become forbidden, the more popularity they gain." ~Mark Twain
Feel free to play the following while reading this post, "sets the mood": You must login or register to view this content.
Seeing as NGU is involved in this movement (like me), I wanted to make sure that everybody understood what this "censorship" thing is al about.
~~Updating everytime i get more news~~
What is SOPA? Why is it important?
SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act) has been proposed by the US government in october 2011, its objective is to help fight copyright infragment material. (**Basically you wont be able to download your favorite movies,tv shows, music, FACEBOOk,TWITTER,etc) You might bbe worndering why would facebook,twitter, any website to stream online movies etc be blocked. Its simple, if SOPA gets approved it would have a very hard time to control these websites from spreading the copyright material so they will ahve to be shut down.SOmething i want to make very clear is that not only will it stop the copyright infragment but it will also stop freedom of speech For example, lets say that a reporter uploads important news to youtube it will be blocked, or even worse if he writes his news in a blog and links it youtube or a website that SOPA doesnt approved that website will be blocked as well.
Whats bad about illegal downloads being stopped?
Im not going to take sides here, this is personal opinion. I believe that every author deserves money for their hard work. But also there is people that simply dont have the access to certain programs other people have. SO the only way they can get them is by downloading them illegally.
:lol: Im not in america WHY SHOULD I CARE?
It will affect you not directly exactly. However most sites have an american DOMAIN that will still stop you froma ccesing it even tho you are not in america.
"HA! I will just use VPN :mask:
Sorry to break it to you, but what gets blocked is the website so using VPN wont make a difference :cry:
How can i acces them if this does happen? HOW CAN I STOP IT?
The only way that occurs to me (please share if you have any other ideas) is by ip adress.
How can you stop it. The only real way is by supporting all the people against it
Two websites that help prevent this awful law from beign approved
You must login or register to view this content.
You must login or register to view this content.
Conclusion:
- You will have to pay for warez
- Your freedom of speech rights will be abused
- Even though ur not in america it WILL STILL AFFECT U!
- Might harm the development of future websites
You must login or register to view this content.
Fun facts:
- Sopa in spanish means soup =D
- Sopa in greek means Shut up y
LEARN MORE:
You must login or register to view this content.
You must login or register to view this content.
VIDEO ADDED BY You must login or register to view this content.
UPDATE BY You must login or register to view this content.
You must login or register to view this content.
Idk if this is useful but :lol: not advertising btw You must login or register to view this content.
EDIT: Also I've found something that may help if this bill occurs You must login or register to view this content. its only for firefox though
01-18-2012, 09:02 PM
#90
ShinigamiUzi
Proud to be a Player
01-21-2012, 06:58 PM
#91
Booshykins
Tech Enthusiast
Originally posted by Just4Hax
So you think sites like NGU, Youtube, Google, etc... should suffer for their users?
YouTube would not suffer, as it has procedures that openly oppose and attempt to prevent illegal Internet activity, like taking down videos, complying with a company's copyright claims, etc. Considering this, it would not be a target of SOPA, because its ultimate use is not what SOPA is against, piracy.
The problem with SOPA is that its definition of piracy is vague, and websites like Wikipedia could get in trouble for simply having information that has been "copyrighted", which I don't understand how you can pirate information because information is free, but according to our oh-so-intelligent government, you can. And it's not only America's that seems to think that.
Google wouldn't suffer, either. Google itself doesn't condone piracy or other illegal Internet activity, either, especially considering they own YouTube. The only thing Google would have to do is prevent the website that has been charged from appearing on search results. So, in a sense, only we suffer because I doubt Google cares about ThePirateBay.org or Megaupload's existence. At most, it would make Google have to do more work.
SOPA could eventually lead to Internet censorship, so there's another reason it can't be passed. SOPA is a gateway bill to Internet restriction, but is not in itself Internet restriction. That's more of a PIPA incentive.
NGU openly condones piracy and other illegal activity in its Premium Forums, but it doesn't necessarily actually host anything illegal itself -- it allows its users to, therefore is a valid target of SOPA, and other laws that are already in place. Outsider and the other administrators are aware of this, and know that they could get in trouble for it, if SOPA in its original state is ever passed. (Which it will hopefully never be.) So, if they do, the only thing that could have been done is not allowing illegal activity in the first place. If it's taken down and people are arrested, so be it. We all knew it was possible, even before SOPA.
I don't support SOPA or PIPA, but I also don't think that everyone who against it necessarily knows what it is so it's kind of pointless for them to oppose it. I applaud you for at least pointing out a section to support your argument, as most haven't even read the first sentence. I just can't say I agree with your interpretation.
In all, there's no reason SOPA should pass, and I'm glad it's been "put up on the shelf" for now, but now comes PIPA, which is even worse, so hopefully it isn't passed either.
The following user thanked Booshykins for this useful post:
Copyright © 2026, NextGenUpdate.
All Rights Reserved.
