Post: Islam and Terrorism
04-17-2012, 05:58 PM #1
TheTrueAce
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"Islam" and other various Islamic terms and concepts are grossly misunderstood in the West. Muslims can hardly find anyone to blame but themselves because (a) they have failed to live by the Islamic tenants in our times, and (b) they have failed to promote understanding of Islam in the West through outreach projects. This brochure is a humble attempt to briefly explain the terms given in the title. The Institute of Islamic Information & Education (III&E) has published almost fifty brochures and several articles for promoting understanding of Islam among Muslims and non-Muslims equally


Some of the Islamic Terms

Islam: means a commitment to live in peace through submission to the Will of God (Allah).

Muslim: is a person who makes a commitment to live in peace through servitude to Allah.

Jihad: means "struggle" and "strive" against evil thoughts, evil action and aggression against a person, family, society or country. Jihad may be a "justifiable war", borrowing the Christian term.

Mujahid: is a person who engages in Jihad for the sake of Allah according to the Quran (Muslim's source book for guidance) and Sunnah (the teachings of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Mujahidin is the plural of Mujahid.

"Islamic terrorism": There is no such phrase or term in the Islamic source books of the Quran or the Sunnah and has no place in Islam.

Sunnah: Sunnah is the preferred way of the Prophet Muhammad that includes his teaching. The sources of the Sunnah are authentic Hadith (reports of the Prophet's sayings, doings and approvals) collections.
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04-19-2012, 12:57 AM #11
O.P
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Originally posted by Kammmmi View Post
I'm sure most people are going to groan and neg me but I don't give a $#@!. I don't like ANY Muslims or ANY people from the middle east. The people's beliefs from there are insane and stupid. If there beliefs weren't to do what they do, they wouldn't cause problems with other countries.

My beliefs and my opinions.


Thanks to your (most likely) american heritage, you've been blessed with the ability to say that. In Afghan, you would have been stoned for that. (not the fun kind :420: )
Think, for minute how our culture would appear to aliens if they were watching...

We kill people for killing
We make fun of kids who want to further their studies
our government legalizes drugs that harm the country (tobacco? alcohol?)

I'm just saying...
04-19-2012, 01:08 AM #12
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Religion and Oil fuel all wars. /end
04-19-2012, 03:16 AM #13
Just4Hax
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Originally posted by Kammmmi View Post
I have a right to believe what I want to and that's what I believe. The they act doesn't interest me.

That's not what I asked...

---------- Post added at 08:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:14 PM ----------

To be honest, I'm done with all this Murrica bullshit. The US is heavily linked to many of the events taking place in the middle east today. Including: Iraq, Iran, Egypt, Israel, Palestine, etc...

Then to say, "Well they've always been that way" is just insane.

As for a link between Islam and terrorism I suppose you can make one, but suicide terrorism in the past was used by plenty of nonmuslims.
04-19-2012, 03:24 AM #14
ghostbear
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Originally posted by OFWGKT
Thanks to your (most likely) american heritage, you've been blessed with the ability to say that. In Afghan, you would have been stoned for that. (not the fun kind :420: )
Think, for minute how our culture would appear to aliens if they were watching...

We kill people for killing
We make fun of kids who want to further their studies
our government legalizes drugs that harm the country (tobacco? alcohol?)

I'm just saying...


It is easy to condemn without knowing. It is what makes many Americans, myself included, ignorant of the middle east. When the media shows us nothing but continual war, death, bombings, etc it is hard to have a unbiased opinion. We are inundated with this, and because many would rather say that these people must deserve this fate, than take the time to try and understand what is going on. We Americans come off looking like a bunch of war mongers.
04-19-2012, 12:35 PM #15
xinfectedsoulx
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Originally posted by Kammmmi View Post
I'm sure most people are going to groan and neg me but I don't give a $#@!. I don't like ANY Muslims or ANY people from the middle east. The people's beliefs from there are insane and stupid. If there beliefs weren't to do what they do, they wouldn't cause problems with other countries.

My beliefs and my opinions.


That's pretty damn ignorant. I'll come clean, I don't like many Muslims, but these are the ones who come into England, receive more benefits than an English born person and not contribute to the country. The ones who mug, steal, deal drugs, spout hatred about the country that gives them benefits, yes, I do not like. However, to say ALL or ANY Muslim is one of the most arrogant things to say. There are many good Muslims, I know some. There are some that become doctors, lawyers and other good professions and help our economy. They are the good Muslims.

However, there it's not just Muslims that do that, there are Eastern European people who do the same thing. I don't like them. If they help our economy, I don't mind them, but it's the ones who scrounge off the state and do fuck all. Same goes for English citizens.

They have some weird beliefs, but that's their culture. Catholics have some weird beliefs among Christians (no sex before marriage? Why, I don't get it). You don't see them as weird though because you're surrounded by them all the time and are used to them. Also, just to base your opinions on beliefs is stupid. There are many good, friendly Muslims that care and all they want is for a peaceful life, yet the Media always shows the bad things. They never shows the success that is happening in Afghanistan, they always show the deaths of soldiers instead. If you watched other programs on Afghanistan you'd see the success of what's happening, building schools, clearing markets of IED's for the locals to move back in. Many locals don't like the Taliban where there are coalition troops because they can see the difference between them and the Taliban. We want them to have school and doctors and trading. The Taliban don't.

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04-29-2012, 04:19 PM #16
Muslims are not terrorists. I have a muslim friend and I asked him about terrorism. He told me that they are not actually the ones provoking war. It's just they will only go to war as an act of defense and never an initiative. Hmm I'm not so sure. Haha! Oh well whatever you believe in Smile)
05-03-2012, 11:59 PM #17
Originally posted by 959 View Post
Muslims are not terrorists. I have a muslim friend and I asked him about terrorism. He told me that they are not actually the ones provoking war. It's just they will only go to war as an act of defense and never an initiative. Hmm I'm not so sure. Haha! Oh well whatever you believe in Smile)


If you're referring to the extremist suicide bombers such as those who supposedly made 9/11 happen, you, or rather your friend, is both right and wrong.

What we have are people who believe incessantly that what they're doing is the right thing. It doesn't matter how illogical it is to those of us who have the good fortune to think rationally about this(i.e. typically born in the west and not religious, very sceptical) - these people who blow themselves up think they're doing what is morally just. This of course doesn't justify it to us, but I think it's a simple point that a lot of people miss. These people want to do what's right. Unfortunately they've been brainwashed into thinking, often from a young age, that this is either what their deity wants or what their country needs done. This is either a case of theistic lunacy or false patriotism. Either way, the primary issue is education. If one is educated, one typically loses faith in religion or at least accepts it to be flawed, or not proven. If one is educated, one also has the means to think on a more rational and sceptical level. This basic ability to think critically destroys any fragment of moral justice that these suicide bombers believe they have. Anyway, onto your point more specifically Unknown.

These people may be doing it as an act of defence occasionally, but the vast majority of the time it's either the theistic lunacy mentioned above or the want for more power. I can't remember the details but I've seen a few documentaries that show very well that these terrorists want control of these countries they claim to be protecting, and they did all this before any conflicts with the west began.
05-04-2012, 08:31 PM #18
Millz
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Originally posted by D3XTA View Post
I believe the 911 was an inside job, government are capable of pulling anything off, as I don't believe people who live in caves are able to fly planes into the towers with such great driving skills. (you might not agree with me).


I do not. The males in all of the planes who hijacked took flying lessons inside of the United States of America. There are documents of all of them attending flying schools in different areas in the US. Regardless, you are entitled to your own opinion and I can't say anything beyond that, however I don't feel like you understand the whole thing.


Originally posted by Kammmmi View Post
I don't like ANY Muslims or ANY people from the middle east. The people's beliefs from there are insane and stupid. If there beliefs weren't to do what they do, they wouldn't cause problems with other countries.

My beliefs and my opinions.


You are definitely entitled to your own opinion, however I can also disagree with it. "ANY" is far to ignorant in my opinion. Unless you mean that you hate every person who wants to kill Americans left right and centre. Then you have a point, and a strong one as well.

The middle Eastern's are not actually ALL bad. There are a large portion who simply hate America. There are on the other hand, others who are just like you and I. They are people living under a different government, however they have the same beliefs that we do and stand for the same rights.

Originally posted by xinfectedsoulx View Post
I think America are the biggest terrorists. They are the ones who are constantly invading other countries "to prevent terrorism". I think the picture ZoneHD posted sums it up. It's ok for America to go into another country and drop bombs from jets, but a country can't do it to them though otherwise they will get invaded. Every country in the middle east are terrorists according to America. NK want a rocket, they're doing it for terrorist acts. Iran want Nuclear energy, they're doing it for terrorist acts. Yet America are the only ones to have used a nuclear bomb, house thousands of them and are the ones who drop bombs.


I'll tell you something right now: The world would be a worse place without America.

The media is filled with negative messages about Americans. Filled with lies, stupidity and hoaxes that people are actually dumb enough to believe in.

I personally believe that most of the wars ARE justified. When they went into Iraq people thought they just wanted oil. To date I do not see a single record of Americans extracting oil from Iraq and brining it to the United States to be used without paying. I do believe that there was evidence of WMD's and the evidence was covered up, canned and stored until America got out of Iraq. I think that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are justified. Here's something else that may shock you:

Bush wasn't a bad president.

Yes yes, he may have looked stupid, and done embarrassing things on national television. But out of all presidents, he was the most honest. Unfortunately his honesty made him look like a fool in the public eye and people began to hate him. People accused him of being greedy, and that he just wanted oil, and wasn't actually looking for WMD's, or wasn't trying to put an end to the Taliban.

He may have seemed trigger happy, but believe it or not: he accomplished a lot.

Iraq isn't much of a different story. Why do they need nukes? Just because? They aren't building them "just because". They never needed them and now all of the sudden they do. The US and Israel has already put a trade embargo on them, and now they want to talk. This issue is done. Americans will either get what they want, or let Iraq find other trade routes.



Now, I want to address this:

think America are the biggest terrorists. They are the ones who are constantly invading other countries "to prevent terrorism". I think the picture ZoneHD posted sums it up. It's ok for America to go into another country and drop bombs from jets, but a country can't do it to them though otherwise they will get invaded. Every country in the middle east are terrorists according to America.

This is not correct.
Not every country in the middle east are terrorists. America doesn't think that at all. They do not want countries who have terrorists within them to begin using weapons that can be obtained and used to harm Americans. It's really as simple as that. Americans have only had issues with the "big 3" Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran. These countries have terrorist influence within and are large threats to America.



Lets face it:

People hate America because they hate how a single country can be so powerful. They make fun of them, make narrow minded stereotypes about them and just plain hate them. But when they need help, they come crying to America for aid. It's sad. America is the mother and those countries are the spoiled assholes. They hate their mothers but come crying to them for help when they are in need. This is why they are in so much debt. THEY HAVE HEATS FOR FUCKS SAKES. They send foreign aid by the billions, no one talks about THAT? People just talk about how they are STUPID and NARROW MINDED.

PEOPLE LIKE THIS MAKE ME FUCKING SICK!

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05-04-2012, 08:55 PM #19
I personally think that 9/11 was an inside job like another member said in this thread. I believe that the Government wanted to cause a global economical meltdown because then the general population puts a more trust/faith in the Government to get them out of the economical mess. But obviously the Government don't care about the economy, or the population of the world.

I think that everything is tied into one big conspiracy, that conspiracy being the NWO/Bilderbergs/Illuminati. I mean the Government already have money, then just don't care enough to fix the issues because the issues within the economy it what they want. Money is corrupt, but money gives you power.. So power is then corrupt.

Look back at the History of the world, look at all the major events. The Bilderbergs all played a vital part in the majority of them, soon the time for the NWO to strike will happen. When tho? I don't know a few years, maybe 20 years. No one knows.

But I think Muslims just got the finger pointed at them because they are an easy target, I have a few friends that are Muslim and they are really nice people. The thing I don't get is, the Islamic religion tells people not to kill or harm another living thing. So the people that are running around blowing up skyscrapers and stuff in the name of "Allah" proabably aren't even Muslim.

Which again leads me to believe that terrorism was created by the NWO. What I mean is, they have clearly paid these people to do go such things. To drive people into fear and make them put faith into the Government again to stop them. Brainwashing, more or less.

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