(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); I just had a little bit of logic I wanted to run past you guys. First of all, most of us here, (myself included) are too you to vote, so anything said here doesn't really matter. That said, I believe Ron Paul is the most beneficial candidate for the Republican Party and here's why...

He is a Republican. Seems simple, but if he got the nomination, he would get the exact same support from Republicans Romney has now, due to the majority of people voting along party lines.

He's NOT Romney There are many people who would support anyone but Romney. (Rick Santorum supporters?) And honestly, Romney has had too many slip ups regarding the Minority Voters to win at this point.

Appeal to Independents This is very important. Paul has a HUGE Independent appeal. He stands for a lot of things many independents do. He also comes across as not being a Washington Insider.

He's not Obama Many Democrats are anti Obama and Anti Romney. He appeals to those people.

He's NOT for Obamacare Romney once was a supporter of something like Obamacare, and Obama is a supporter of this as well. Paul would pick up all of these people who are not so fond if Obamacare.

If he isn't the Nominee, he could RUIN the Republican Party this year, and for years to come Ron Paul has a huge fan base of 15-30 year olds. If they are alienated, they could switch to Democrats, and ruin the Grand Old Party for the next 4 elections to come. Also, if Paul ran as Independent after losing the nominations, he would gain a large bit of support from Republicans, being as he was one. Although it might only be 10%, 10% added to a candidates total is huge.

Anyways, thats my opinion, and the logic behind it. Leave your opinions below!

I support him but I don't live in the USA. I do remember hearing from somewhere though that he is 'radical' and not really fitting to be in the republican party.

Ron Paul has been receiving a lot of support of the years. If he can gain enough voters, he has a great chance. As far as the republicans go, he is decent.

Sorry for the lengthy argument...but here are just a few reasons why he's a total shithead.

He wants to repeal the Civil Rights Act
That’s the (1964) law that made segregation illegal and outlawed discrimination on the basis of race, color, religion, sex or national origin. You must login or register to view this content. (by the way, Lew Rockwell is the VP for Ron Paul & Associates that print his newsletters) it infringes on people’s freedom. If a restaurant or hotel wants to ban African-Americans, he believes they should be allowed to. As he put it in a speech to Congress: “the forced integration dictated by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 increased racial tensions while diminishing individual liberty.”

He’s also against the Americans With Disabilities Act
That’s a bill passed (in 1990) by the first President Bush, which followed up the Civil Rights Act by making it illegal to discriminate against someone because of a disability. Paul wants it gone, too.


He is against public health care
You know how you think Americans are crazy because they can’t do any better on universal health care than the watered down bill Obama got through? Well, President Ron Paul You must login or register to view this content.. He thinks that in an entirely private system, poor people would have all of their needs taken care of by charitable doctors who would be willing to work for free. Ron Paul, by the way, is a medical doctor.

He wants to dissolve the public education system
He You must login or register to view this content. to eliminate the Department of Education entirely and leave the question of whether to offer any public education at all up to local governments. He calls[sup]1[/sup] public education “socialist” (which we actually agree with, because none of us want to go to school) and says, “I preach home schooling and private schooling.” According to You must login or register to view this content., “The Department of Education has given us No Child Left Behind, massive unfunded mandates, indoctrination, and in some cases, forced medication of our children with psychotropic drugs. We should get rid of all of that…”

He’s against Federal Safety Standards
So that means no federal testing to make sure the products you’re sold won’t kill you. Or that, say, the airplane you’re on won’t fall out of the sky. In fact, he’s in favour of completely disbanding the Federal Aviation Authority, which does stuff like hire air traffic controllers to make sure planes don’t collide in the air. He has argued against the Food and Drug Administration, which makes sure pharmaceuticals are safe to take. He makes Ralph Nader's crusade on seat-belt laws look sane.

He is You must login or register to view this content.
This is a personal tiff I have with the man. He is vehemently opposed to a woman’s right to choose. He signed the “personhood pledge”, suggesting that abortion should be legally considered to be the same thing as murder. I also don't think it is right to make contraceptives a prescriptive drug. As a man who is so anti-socialist and pro-freedom, it seems rather silly to tell me I can't take birth control so I have safe sex without getting knocked up.

He would pull out of the United Nations
He You must login or register to view this content. the United Nations is part of a plot to create one world government. “If we continue down the UN path, America as we know it will cease to exist.” And not only does he want to withdraw the U.S. from membership, he wants to evict the United Nations from their headquarters in New York.

He’s against the minimum wage
Instead of making sure that people are paid at least a minimum amount for their work, he believes companies should be allowed to pay whatever ever they like, with the law of supply and demand determining just how little. Lower wages, he argues, would actually help poor people by creating more jobs. While this is true, you won't keep a job if you can't pay a mortgage or take a shower.

He wants to get rid of income tax
He is against taxation in general, of course, which most liberals would disagree pretty strongly with. Especially when it comes to the income tax. It’s generally recognized as the most direct way to make sure that poor folk don’t have to give up more of their earnings than rich folk do. But Paul wants to You must login or register to view this content. entirely.

He’s against the Occupational Health and Safety Act
That’s the law that gives Americans the right to a safe workplace, and makes sure an employer doesn’t force employees to work in a dangerous or unhealthy environment. That, Paul You must login or register to view this content., is unconstitutional. It limits the employer’s freedom to put workers in harm’s way.

He thinks interstate highways are unconstitutional
He argues against[sup]2[/sup] interstate highways by saying Eisenhower knew he was bending the law when he built them. Paul figures they’re a violation of states’ rights.

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This video basically surmises his insanity

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You’re probably getting the impression by now that Ron Paul thinks that pretty much everything the federal government does is unconstitutional.

That’s because Ron Paul thinks that pretty much everything the federal government does is unconstitutional

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Credits to my friend Spencer to helping me find the information.

That's because they are negative, have you even read or watched the citations listed in a legitimate way? I'll give it that in a world where morality, human generosity and private corporations did everything that it would be a perfect world. However the truth of the matter is that it will not happen. In the basics of economics you cannot have his ideal world, people don't fit with it. There needs to be reform, but you can't live in a fantasy world that cannot be accomplished with a bunch of walking, talking idiots. One of these idiots happens to be Ron Paul because he somehow thinks that everyone in the world thinks like him and is as generous as him.

Some people aren't good people and they would cripple the society that he wants to build. On some stronger points, with the ADA he says to boycott a company if they treat people unfairly...what happens when a large monopolistic building contractor decides they're not going to build any homes with ramps because it takes too much work? What happens to the people who have to use wheelchairs? It sounds great when you just say, "Boycott it!" but people still want homes and in some areas that's not an option. The simple truth is that many of these laws he's against are just around as a backup plan in the first place. Most people are going to be good on their own grounds, but when push comes to shove and there's no other option, the law can be there.

Private schooling and homeschooling...that's a [s]brilliant[/s] terrible idea. What happens to the orphans? Just wait around for some generous fat cat to give you a ride to a local Catholic boarding school? I had that dream for 6 years, the wind blows in foul direction and nothing ever happens. And on the note at that, I highly doubt any doctor would have just given me services freely after the wreck. In fact if it weren't for my parents' healthcare plan (which was shit quality, at best) I wouldn't have even been admitted into the hospital. People are greedy.

And a last somewhat in-depth account of income tax abolition...well, it's Economics 101. The government needs money and what are the three largest monetary interchanges in the United States? Oh! That's right!

• Property
  
• Luxuries
  
• Income

i agree with alot of what he's trying to do, abolish the tax system, take away the power of big government.

yes i think private and home schooling is appropriate and public schooling isn't. the public system is garbage and has been for years, there's a reason why america is filled with so many morons. especially with the no child left behind law. i say reform the laws disband child labor laws. if you didn't have good insurance you should have been working and had your own bro. sorry to say but the blunt truth is the best. I believe in learning stuff by your self, and teaching your self how to do things. now if your like the general public and have no brain to use what so ever, what do you need public school for if your just going to be a brainless worker? we need people to work at mcdonalds and do jobs that people with actual brain power don't want to do, like sewage treatment and plumbing and jobs like that.

yes everyone should be treated equal and such but if that were the way of the world then some things would be easier to be attained and such. this isn't the childish perfect world that big brother needs to be in total control of. with people wanting this maybe this should make you actually start thinking about the future instead of just what you want right now.

a long time ago my father told me be happy there's public school because eventually it will be gone again, when he was younger his parents paid for his schooling, thats why he dropped out at such a young age because he knew it was pointless for his parents to waste their money on him when he could just go get a job and start working towards a retirement through any type of company. there are many routes you can take, but with all the new laws and how they've pushed so many things when i was younger, like you used to be able to join the military with only a GED, then they stopped that and you could only join with a high school diplomia, now they are trying to stop that and insist on a associates degree. but why do "mindless drones" need brains for to just push buttons, because technically thats all military workers do, the higher ups do most of the thinking for them. "you aren't paid to think" a line i've heard so many times being at the bottom of the totem pole.

as for the repealing of the civil rights act, the country is already segregated. everyone self segregates themselves. no matter how you look at they do. the blacks will just complain when the law gets repealed, even though they are no longer the minority. white people are. there shouldn't a law on something that "should have been fixed" already. if you don't believe that anyone self segregates when you goto school if your still in school, look where all the black kids are sitting in your class, and where the white kids are. bet most likely all the black kids are sitting next to each other and the whites are next to each other. its like this every where, it always has been its just human nature.

as for minimum wage laws, i don't believe everyone should be payed the, same because of that it doesn't allow for any one employee to stand out completely. if i start working at a minimum wage job and i work hard as fuk i'm still only going to be getting paid minimum wage, until after awhile of this work it may become noticed and i could get bumped up a position. but some times that may take forever. now if work days were evaluated by a daily basis and we all started out getting paid 3 bucks on the first day, and i busted my ass and you didn't, the boss could be like you get 6 bucks an hour the next day if your work is the same and turns to you and says you will continue to be paid 3 dollars unless you work harder. and if you didn't like it your fine to go look for another job.

a business owner shouldn't be told how to run his business. there are alot of people that still work for less than minimum wage, regardless of how you look at it.

i think ron paul is a good place to start for the fixing of the country. he's the push the country needs to start fixing itself, so we are back on top of the world. it isn't the governments business to take care of peoples problems, just like in that second video you posted, the government said buy houses from these guys, their banks crash the government bails out the bankers while the people rot in the streets! yeah you defiantly want the governments help seeing how they burned all the little people there.

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Ironically, NCLB in our public schools has very little to do with the federal government. NCLB just requires that disadvantaged students (for example, I got benefits from NCLB in order to even go to school) are offered some form of education at the elementary level [K-6] and that every state set up an assessment program. There is no federal standard, so the only people you can blame for stupid people out of public schools are the teachers, students and state legislature.



No, nobody deserved to be TREATED equally. Everyone deserves to have an equal opportunity no matter what shit environment they were born in.



It's also pointless to not even try and follow your goals. Living for survival isn't worth it.



Don't know where you've gone to school, but in my area the segregation is not by racial discrimination, it's more or less by class.



Perfect example of a need for education reform rather than dissolution.
Minimum wage also isn't a "you're-only-paid-this-much" policy, minimum wage just sets a MINIMUM STANDARD. In my state minimum wage is $7.25 and I've been to minimum wage jobs where I've gotten $10-$15+ for outstanding work ethic and credentials. Minimum wage just requires that an employer either pay the employee the standard defined by your state or fire them.

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As for everything else, it's mostly just insensible jargon with little to no economic factors. The government isn't trying to fix anyone's problems - I still have to pay for my college education (with some grants and loans, I also get some benefits from other sources along with a Pell Grant). The government just ensures that companies don't fuck over the community. We aren't a capitalist society anymore, we're democratic and the government works at the bidding of the people, not the corporation. There needs to be reform, not change, because what we have works - look at FDR and The New Deal. With a risen population from "back in the good ol' days" and changes in technology and the inadvertent stagger of employee demand we're not the same gun slinging yokels of the wild west.

Republicans candidates......:ha!:
Almost all of them are well terrible choices it goes to show you just how divided the US is.
Problem i have with most of the candidates , you notice this with mitt he goes to the far right back to the right again.
Ron paul is radical but most of his ideas are crazy. Not even sure just how deep supported he is with the lobby groups too.

Obama is quite a Republican/Democrats most of Obama's policy are very close to republicans ones. If you hate obama your most likely not a republican or more far right.
Hate towards Obamacare is something i don't understand :/
US health care system is already costs too much for the service you get and pretty poor compared to other nations. Hell even brazil has a better health care system than the US and has the same number of people as the US.
Creating a public system would bring down that cost and create a rival to the private system. The idea behind it was to help poorer people with health care is that a bad thing ?

FYI Minimum wage helps to create economic demand removing it would be a stupid thing to do. Would also turn the tax system into a complete mess :/