Post: My largest question about god
01-06-2013, 10:35 PM #1
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The most puzzling question i have about god is how is it possible that god is infinite future and infinite past. I use this analogy to explain my point, imagine an infinitely long highway, its infinitely long in the north direction and infinitely in the south direction. This highway represents god. The length of the highway represents time, and the highway is infinite. This means that god has come in from the middle of the highway and started creating the north end and south end at the same time. That would mean that the past is still being created and the future is still being created. The reason i say god came in the middle is because if you think about it, that is the only way a man could create an infinitely expanding highway in both direction, let’s say you had a million guys working on the north end and the south end. And they NEVER stop building in any direction because the south end never stops and the north end never stops because the highway is infinite. Remember the highway represents time, or “Gods time/lifetime” if you will.
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01-09-2013, 09:55 PM #20
Pricey91
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Originally posted by .NINK. View Post
I have never seen another Agnostic-Atheist on the forums here. Maybe they're all just hiding Gasp

But continuing on, the question I would like to know is 'will we ever reach an answer based on fact'?


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01-09-2013, 11:47 PM #21
To be honest, I couldn't comprehend what you said there as it was confusing. However, I have complete faith in God. Even if there is no proof of Him being there, is there any proof of Him NOT being there?

Also, to the person who said they'd follow Lucifer instead of God; I understand your point, but like Ehhx stated, the devil will just give you stuff in return for something and it'll completely devastate you when you have nothing to give in return. Such as when a person sells their soul to the devil. They receive stuff, but in return they are offering the devil his/her soul and the devil has complete control over him/her.
01-10-2013, 04:12 AM #22
Thief
Dun Hate Cuz I Beautiful.
Originally posted by Clutch
Lots of people believing or disbelieving in something has absolutely no impact on reality at all.


But the collective thought on something somewhat makes it exist.

Take for example the world famous "blow into your N64 cartridge to make it work." Everybody believes this to work, but the act of blowing into the cartridge almost makes you believe it will work. Also, I remember reading this but I can't remember where.

The simple act of looking at a chemical reaction when it happens, can change the output the the reaction. So seeing something, can also change the act of what the outcome is, in the same way, that the collective conscious of something could, in a sense, make it exist.
01-10-2013, 04:22 AM #23
xSoulEdge
Big Sister
If i want to sleep happily i read some bible before, it works as a fairy tale.
01-10-2013, 02:47 PM #24
Originally posted by uGotMerked View Post
To be honest, I couldn't comprehend what you said there as it was confusing. However, I have complete faith in God. Even if there is no proof of Him being there, is there any proof of Him NOT being there?

Also, to the person who said they'd follow Lucifer instead of God; I understand your point, but like Ehhx stated, the devil will just give you stuff in return for something and it'll completely devastate you when you have nothing to give in return. Such as when a person sells their soul to the devil. They receive stuff, but in return they are offering the devil his/her soul and the devil has complete control over him/her.


First off, you're failing to understand how the burden of proof works. It's up to you to prove that a god exists, not the other way around. Secondly, the second paragraph epitomises what religions such as your own do so well. They create a bubble whereby anything they don't approve of is supposedly of the devil and is trying to lead you away from your faith. It's the ultimate form of control.

Originally posted by Thief View Post
But the collective thought on something somewhat makes it exist.

Take for example the world famous "blow into your N64 cartridge to make it work." Everybody believes this to work, but the act of blowing into the cartridge almost makes you believe it will work. Also, I remember reading this but I can't remember where.

The simple act of looking at a chemical reaction when it happens, can change the output the the reaction. So seeing something, can also change the act of what the outcome is, in the same way, that the collective conscious of something could, in a sense, make it exist.


No, a collective conscious can do absolutely nothing. What you've described is just a common misconception, it could even be described as an urban myth. Other such popular false claims include us only using 10% of our brains and diamonds being rare.
01-10-2013, 07:12 PM #25
Originally posted by xFLAMeHD
wait wait wait.... Time = Movement... The universe have always been there. No start and it will NOT end.

This thing about never started really fucked it up for some of us... With the big bang thing... It makes a start... But it have always been there...

Just like god making the earth. It's a start too... In the bible world. And for the ones who believes in it.

The universe is very hard to think of, because then we get the question again. What about the content in the universe the gas and rocks and stuff. Where does it come from? something or someone must have done it? ( Just an example )

I think sorry but it's not possible to find out as a human... But the only thing we can get is theories about it which COULD be true or not... Just like big bang theory... But.


So you don't understand what a theory is. Right.
01-11-2013, 01:51 AM #26
The concept of this one particular god is infinite, not its manifest. We actively shape its influence in our past, and use it to shape our future. By conditionally defining god as a gender, you have done this yourself. You must distinguish such an entity from a measurement of time or an actual physical, quantifiably animated, being.
01-11-2013, 11:50 AM #27
DangSonIGlitch
Do a barrel roll!
My personal opinion is, God is a symbol for people to wish for hope that there is something in life to look forward to, there is someone constantly looking over you and if you are dedicated to that specific god, you are rewarded. Regardless of whether they exist or not, simply believing in a greater truth is fine, the problem comes when extremists believe they are chosen for a purpose ( they are special messengers of god) and attack others for their beliefs. Could continue but rather not, i am also atheist.
01-11-2013, 05:17 PM #28
Originally posted by xFLAMeHD
Yes I do. why? or are we miss understanding each other?

I don't say big bang is wrong. I just says it's a theory. Which it is.


Yes, but the manner in which you say that suggests that you don't know what a theory is, that's all.

Quick definition: the analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one another.

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