Post: Treyarch: Devs 'burned' for creativity
02-01-2011, 11:29 PM #1
Jake
One Man Army
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Originally posted by another user
It's a creative industry – the most creative form of entertainment in existence. Too many developers who try new things are getting burned by "pundits" and angry entitled fans who look to be contrarian, sometimes simply for the sake of being contrarian.

The only thing this attitude aims to achieve is stunt that creativity and innovation even further, which is something that no rational gamer looking to be entertained would want to do.


The latest installment in the Call of Duty franchise, Black Ops, has come under much criticism for being slow-paced. And today's map pack innovations have been attacked for having a detrimental effect on the flow of the game. The developers are unsure of the way forward.

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02-01-2011, 11:35 PM #2
xChri$ !
whaaaa ?
This Is why Treyarch Is a fail, someone trys and makes the game new and Treyarh declines It .
Black Ops Isn't even a fun game anymore :FU:

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02-01-2011, 11:37 PM #3
BooshMayne
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For once the man is right, I have almost forgiven him for banning me from the PS3 because of how awesome ascension is :love:
02-01-2011, 11:38 PM #4
Saucy-_-
Red Wing's For Life!!!
All the stupid lil kid's dont help, mostly because they cry about it not being a noob game like Mw2!!!
02-01-2011, 11:42 PM #5
p1ngagrand3
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1. the game is horrible, not creative at all. they just switched around the perk system and took away the exp point unlock system and put in the cod point unlock system.

2. challenges mean nothing in this game cause of the cod points.
2.1 cod points were introduced to diminish boosters...but people get banned daily cause they still use the TAC INSERTION that they have yet to remove from the game to boost...go figure?

3. they know ghost/cold blooded/camo/uav jammer should be an unlocked perk at mid level cap, but instead you get it at level 4 for 2000 cod points which you can get an easy 4000 cod points in one game of hq.
3.1 same with second chance, and second chance is bs. we all know it!

4. hit detection is horrible along with the lag and connection in the game. they refuse to fix the real problems in the game and want to keep patching guns that are thought to be 'over powered' when they aren't.


5. THE GAME REALLLY FRIGGING SUCKS!!

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02-01-2011, 11:52 PM #6
jkry_2_1_
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Originally posted by p1ngagrand3 View Post
1. the game is horrible, not creative at all. they just switched around the perk system and took away the exp point unlock system and put in the cod point unlock system.

2. challenges mean nothing in this game cause of the cod points.
2.1 cod points were introduced to diminish boosters...but people get banned daily cause they still use the TAC INSERTION that they have yet to remove from the game to boost...go figure?

3. they know ghost/cold blooded/camo/uav jammer should be an unlocked perk at mid level cap, but instead you get it at level 4 for 2000 cod points which you can get an easy 4000 cod points in one game of hq.
3.1 same with second chance, and second chance is bs. we all know it!

4. hit detection is horrible along with the lag and connection in the game. they refuse to fix the real problems in the game and want to keep patching guns that are thought to 'over powered' when they aren't.

5. THE GAME REALLLY FRIGGING SUCKS!!


cant say it better myself #4 should be bolded with font size of 12 tho.
02-01-2011, 11:54 PM #7
Originally posted by p1ngagrand3 View Post

4. hit detection is horrible along with the lag and connection in the game. they refuse to fix the real problems in the game and want to keep patching guns that are thought to 'over powered' when they aren't.


This only pertains to ps3. Xbox is smooth and more accurate.
02-02-2011, 12:08 AM #8
Originally posted by sotgun View Post
This only pertains to ps3. Xbox is smooth and more accurate.


Hit detection is still bad on Xbox...but lag isn't really an issue on Xbox.
02-02-2011, 12:08 AM #9
karimkz
Space Ninja
You ppl that complain about BO probably complain cuz the game IS balanced! Aww no tubes for you?!? Hey lets do a 388492926373939 degrees shots of my dick, w8 u cant! HA im happy with this game and its has been the most balanced CoD since CoD2
02-02-2011, 12:19 AM #10
E0000B6FAF25838
Nikolai Reznov
Originally posted by p1ngagrand3 View Post
1. the game is horrible, not creative at all. they just switched around the perk system and took away the exp point unlock system and put in the cod point unlock system.


I think it was rather creative. You get to choose what you want to unlock, instead of getting the same unlock at the same level every prestige. If you don't like a certain gun, guess what? You don't have to waste a level up to get it. You can leave it behind completely. This fixes the issue of level ups that only give you crappy guns.


Originally posted by another user
2. challenges mean nothing in this game cause of the cod points.
2.1 cod points were introduced to diminish boosters...but people get banned daily cause they still use the TAC INSERTION that they have yet to remove from the game to boost...go figure?


Challenges let you level up faster, letting you unlock certain features earlier than if the challenges weren't there at all.

To tell you the truth, I agree with your point about Tac inserts. They were never a good idea.

Originally posted by another user
3. they know ghost/cold blooded/camo/uav jammer should be an unlocked perk at mid level cap, but instead you get it at level 4 for 2000 cod points which you can get an easy 4000 cod points in one game of hq.
3.1 same with second chance, and second chance is bs. we all know it!


I personally always hated the fact that I had to wait so long to get G/CB/C/RJ, if being stealthy is part of my strategy, why should I have to wait until level 26 to get ghost? It's fine to let run & gunners use their strategy from the start, but not for those that want to take a more tactical approach use theirs'?

And with second chance, I've always hated that perk, I don't know why IW and Treyarch are so determined to keep it in the game.

Originally posted by another user

4. hit detection is horrible along with the lag and connection in the game. they refuse to fix the real problems in the game and want to keep patching guns that are thought to be 'over powered' when they aren't.


I don't have an issue with hit detection (I'm on PS3), however I do encounter a lot of lag at times and it can be annoying, but it's not a game breaker for me.

You know what ruined WaW for quite a few people? The MP40. It was massively overpowered and Treyarch refused to do anything about it. I think them patching guns is their attempt to stop that from happening again. But I haven't seen anything in this game that absolutely needs fixed right away.

Originally posted by another user
5. THE GAME REALLLY FRIGGING SUCKS!!


Matter of opinion. I thought the game was great. It doesn't have as much replay value as MW2 once you prestige though, but that's my only real gripe.

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