(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Black Ops 2 looks BEAST! No Support, no death streaks, Ghost is tweaked(I actually sound whore so those nobody ass UAV or Ghost people don’t really bother me anyway), maps look great, etc. I am pumped. As you know, unlike most I am honest and rational. I know that right now this looks like greatest game ever, by January I will be angry with certain aspects, but will play the shit out of it regardless.

My issue is COD franchise disguising their quest to make the game more noobyfriendly by using the word, “objective”. You see in COD community if you want to get people to buy into your thread or idea, you have to attach propaganda words…Words like “camper, try hard, overpowered, panic knife” or “OBJECTIVE”.

Example: that guy who went 40-5 was being a try hard camping with that overpowered PP90, panic knifing me…Oh and I only went 10-30 because I am an objective player, blah blah derp derp”

Brings me to my point. Score Streaks are a good idea. I loved Point Streaks(I once got a Reaper with ZERO gun kills haha). However, they are inherently noob friendly. They paint the picture as, “we will reward the objective players”. The reality is, they are rewarding the noobs who shoot down air support and call in UAVs all game long by giving the score points. UAV isn’t any better than Ghost. I still say Ghost should be removed and UAV should be a 7 streak. That way you can’t hide but every Tom, Dick, Harry and his momma can’t get UAV 80% of the game. UAV Spam and Portable radars lead to Ghost use people. Your inability to kill someone unless they are a red dot on a minimap is what makes these guys turn to Ghost…I rarely ever use Ghost btw, but I don’t diss people who use it. UAV and Ghost* the same to me.

So I welcome the ease of getting Dogs and Gunships at least once a game(Twice come Christmas) but I wish they would be honest. Don’t say you want to reward people for playing more objective. Say that you want to make it easier for lesser players to get kill streaks, so you will help them out. Good players know that being objective is way easier than people make it out to be. You simply get kills, maintain flags with kill streaks and have a rape fest. Bad players are the ones spending more time pointing a Stinger/Strela up at the sky than getting kills. Bad players are the ones tripping capping when you’re up 150-35. Killwhoring and playing objective isn't mutually exclusive. I like a mixture of both. Also news flash...Defending a flag in a tightly contested Dom game isn't camping either. But we know it"s easier to make excuses. Bad players are the ones trying to cap a flag while losing 35-180.* I wouldn’t be surprise if the next COD gives you two points for shooting down air support. In Black Ops* 1, good teams had Blackbirds, Napalms, Dogs, Chopper Gunners up all game and dominated and won. Bad players couldn’t get higher than a Care Package or Sam Turrent I liked it that way :carling:

So I expect to see UAV, Counter UAV, Care Package and RC Cars all game long…Good news is, at least it’s better than seeing Noob Bombers, EMPS and Escort Airdrops all game. Support in MW3 was like Call of Duty Welfare. Score Streaks are more like Coupons and I guess I like that :carling:

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Well played, I like that

The multiplayer videos do look good. I like the inclusion of vehicles this time around, OK not quite Battlefield 3 but it's a bit more variety than the usual COD.

I was going to post something about this. They removed Support but replaced it with UAV awarding you for the kills your team mates get from the UAV you used. I really hate this idea because UAV are annoying when scrubs spam with them. Yesterday on MW3 I swear that's all that was up all game long. I run Hardline just because of the assit I get through the game. I can get up to 10 at times and guess what with hardline that makes 5 points to my killstreak.
UAV spamming is a problem because how low it is to get. Either way I will enjoy feasting on these bums using a million UAV because they to scared to move around without help.

Problem is people feel way too entitled. They use UAV, Portable Radars, HB Sensor,etc yet can't deal with people countering that with Assassin.

All people do is either say everyone that kills them is a camper, panic knifer, tryhard, etc and it has gotten pathetic. The Noobs are the loud majority now. Think about it.

How many threads do you see ranting about the following:

Stinger missiles shooting down air Support too easily
Support being terrible
UAV spam
Bad splitscreen teammates

Rarely any. Because only good players deal with those issues. Who gives a shit about a UAV getting countered when chances are that UAV was obtained by capturing 1 flag, shooting something down and getting one lucky frag kill.

I care about my Pavelow getting shot down.
I carw about avoiding teammates that ALLOW people to camp. COD now features the bad players speaking the most. I would rather talk about a teammate going 5-30 more than a giu hiding from some shitty UAV. Ghost needs to be removed and make UAV 7 points.

It is always cool to discuss issues but campers are only a problem if you aren't good or play solo. Of course we know all COD players think they are good and that 1.2 kdr doesn't mean anything. They take moral stances against MP7 yet call in EMPs no matter how negative they go.

I have third world COD problems. I care about getting kills and wins. Average Joe cares about making sure everybody ia running around 24/7 dying like he does. I care about Attack Dogs while your average Joe wants to make sure the guns are fair and balanced. They should go play Wii.

I wish there was a killstreak that took 5 strela missiles and lasted 3 minutes.

They should of had made UAV like a 5KillStreak. In Black Ops 1 it was fairly easy to get UAV because you only needed a very small amount of kill to achieve it...

its not camping.... its Tactical Position Defense :carling:

I disagree; I think rewarding people for playing the objective is absolutely necessary as it it something this community sorely lacks. However, you are right about there being so many Ghost users because of the endless UAV spam and that is should be bumped up to a higher killstreak. I would personally refine the entire killstreak loadouts with UAV starting at 5. Silly things like the RC-XD can stay at 3 because any good player knows how much more useful an UAV is over a stupid car that can only kill one person. I would also like to see the removal of the care package as its randomness can completely change a game, especially in the case of SnD. All in all the score streaks is a fine addition to the game but as a result all killstreaks should be bumped up in points needed.

Tbh, i hope bo2 does not allow players to earn a pointstreak by destroying enemy killstreaks. Earning xp worth like 6kills is fine for destroying.

My point is, it is easy to say that they want to reward the community and help promote objective gameplay. But that isn't the case. They just want to make it so guys who can't get 7 straight kills have it easier. Point Streaks in MW3 helped players too but you still saw Support used 60% of the time. They made Assault killstreak rewards easier and rewarded objective players, yet you still say more Stealth Bombers and EMPs than Reapers or Pavelows. COD players want the easiest way out. I am not talking about guns though. But they want the easy way out. It sounds good to say they want to reward objective players. I win 75% of my games, but what the hell is an "objective player"? I want a good player who knows how to play objectives. Who isn't just concerned with kills BUT isn't only good at trying to triple cap. Support was painted as for "team players" but in reality it was for scrubby ass players too terrible or too lazy to earn Assault even though Assault in MW3 was way easier than in any COD.

They say "objective" player. I see objective players as the noobs triple capping for no reason and shooting down UAV and killstreaks all game. I like winners. Winners get kills and can grind out flags for wins. Saying objective is like saying "good personality" for a fat chick. How about being a good player who communicates, isn't afraid to capture flags and kills the shit out the enemy. Playing the objective is way easier than people act like it is. You go to a base, have the abilty to kill people trying to stop you, then you defend the flags by killing. Easy. It isn't some noble thing. Winning and getting kills shouldn't be mutually exclusive.



I think that if you in game kdr is less than .50 your stinger should be deactivated. Killstreaks should have spawn protection too.

It would be cool if you can only destroy an killstreak like an helicopter with your own killstreak and not eith the Stinger because that sux damn -.- everyone is using a Stinger and when you have a helicopter and he arrives them it will be destroyed after a few seconds