(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); And it strikes again COD shotguns suck again.
Good news is the treyarch this time has made shotguns quite good by treyarch standards.
But that was not that hard to do.

Some tips from my limited bit of use

Aim down sights = less spread I don't have the hard numbers but I know it alot.
Laser sight!!! improves hip fire by default shotguns hip fire sucks. A standard SMG has better hip fire when moving :/ which makes no sense.
Long barrel = 15% more range. That lower compared to MW3 range which was 25%.

Just don't understand how one hit kill snipers at any range is fine but shotguns one hit kill up to 25m is not fine.
For some odd reason shotguns suck when you move and get a hipfire spread increase.
Damage is pretty bad also near the end of limited range. Bright side silencer does not change the range on the shotguns (May be wrong)

So how your time with shotguns been ?

The range of the KSG 12 (with long barrel attachment) can compare to the Spas 12 and Model with range proficiency on MW3.

The R870 is a monster in CQC, especially when you rapid fire glitch with it (Imagine shooting a little bit faster than the USAS from MW3)

I just unlocked the KSG 12 online but I haven't got to play more than one game because of the PS3 servers and freezing.

I'm fine with how the shotguns are. I know how to abuse the system making them more effective, and I'm glad nobody knows how to do that.
Noobs running around with good stock good shotguns is the last thing I'd want d:

Close range, the R870 and KSG 12 balance out.
Medium to long range, the KSG 12 comes up top, but you have to ADS (or have a really lucky hip fire)

Think of the KSG being like... The Ballista with the iron sight attachment. But doesn't have infinite range.

The shotguns are balanced with one other, if they just majorly buff one, it would screw it up.

The KSG and the R870 have their ups and downs. The R870, having a deadly 2 pellet kill up close but a mean ass hip fire (Doesn't really matter up up close because it only takes two pellets to kill). The KSG not having a pellet spread, but if you are consistent with your accuracy, you won't be getting any 2+HK's.

As for the S12 and the automatic shotgun..

If you can drop shot in close range.. They up your chances.

I been using a naked KSG 12 it pretty good. Apart from that one slug round if you miss or on a laggy connection it going to hurt.

If the shotguns were more powerfull I wouldn't play this game at all, I'm already raging now, everyone uses them and snipers on Nuketown -.-

Ahhhh they are not that bad they can still be pretty crappy. It pretty easy to counter somebody using a shotgun camp
Or
Get out of range you need to play the map so different compared to normal.

Have seen about 5 golden 870s so far. It's a good gun. The rest of the class though..........

I picked up a KSG on Hijacked and got a nice triple kill. But yeah unless it's a small map and enemies suck, I am not touching shotguns. Too inconsistent. I might make an overkill class with shotgun backup though just for more research.



You don't lose 205-5 because of kill whore. I don't know if it's because as a community we are much more likely to discredit others but most solo losses I get are frim terrible randoms. I played solo three games because party lag was horrendous. In those games people on my team were all quickscoper, trying to knife, shoot pistols(the bad ones) and use assault shield.

One Domination gam we lost 200-95. Multiple people were 5-30 with 2-3 captures tops.

Point is I'd rather a supposed killwhore ignore objectives than a noob going 5-30 ignoring them. People don't usually have a strategy and ignore objectives so I agree. But a guy going 30-5 ignoring doesn't hurt your team like a bad player does. Unless he is getting kills a mile a way from objective lol. I play on parties because we are all decent and play as a team. Solo, a killwhore getting your teams streaks helps you. A noob or splitscreen player gives streaks. My motto is bring SOMETHING to the table.

R870 'nuff said

that first shotgun is something else. Everyone that uses shotguns uses that damn gun. I used it once and got 4 kills off the bat.

I'm doing okay with the shotguns right now man its been going smooth what about yourself man :p