Post: My Diamond AR setups and tips.
03-27-2013, 09:20 PM #1
ResistTheSun
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So after my last thread on getting diamond assault rifles people wanted to know what set ups I used and how I made it easier to get each one gold before unlocking diamond.
I won't be covering perks as they are more useful to your play style not necessary. With shotguns I covered perks, with assault rifles it not needed.

First off two ways of going for gold camos always use that gun and always try for it or work with it over time. I did the faster way possible which was always aim for head shots move on to the next challenge. However this is going to make your k.d suffer so if you care play like your would normally and let it happen over time.
First thing is head shots for a number of rifle I used certain set ups for each one in order to make this easier.
Once the head shots are done you start to move on to kills without perks, long shots and bloods.
I plan on covering each of the set ups I used and game modes to get it done quicker.

MTAR

Head shots with the MTAR was easy due to it high rate of fire for the assault rifles if you want to make it go faster put on laser. Pretty easy to do with the 3 hit kill damage so head shots are easy to do.

Long shots on the other hand are harder due to the lower damage at range hardcore again if you want to go faster with this. Put on a long range sight and boom oddly I found hybrid sight the best for me. Recoil makes longer ranges harder to do but possible on the MTAR.

No perks and naked
Due to the MTAR being Mr average it can do anything. As a result no perks and naked is not a problem quite like the MTAR with nothing on it.

Overall the MTAR works with anything, so can put what you want on it.
Love the MTAR on my top 5 weapons in the game. It one assault rifle I keep using even after getting diamond.

Type 25

Headshots
Same rate of fire as a couple SMGs, which means headshots are easy. Nothing else to say just slap on laser and hipfire for a bit.

Longshots are what annoyed me with this weapon for a number of reasons even in hardcore it pants at longer ranges. So yea select fire may be a good idea never tested it out was very lucky to get into a hardcore lobby do it almost within 3 games camping like a girl with target finder.
You need to control how many bullets are fired if you don't use select fire the thing kicks hard at times.

No perks and naked
One of the biggest issues I found was getting used to not using fast mags again , pretty easy to do just play TDM. Use black hat to counter UAVs.

Overall the type 25 , is like the MTAR but has more close range power.

Quickdraw, stock
Quickdraw, fast mags
Quickdraw, fasts mags and stock
Fast mags , silencer

These are the setups I found to work, aggressive set ups. Not a gun I like to use that often due to being forced to use certain perks because of the rate of fire.

Swat 556

Headshots
Acog I found to be the best set up but red dot or any sight is good.

Longshots are easy use quickdraw and acog jump done. Target finder is also good but dislike using that sight.

No perks and naked
Nothing else to say apart from play TDM.

Overall I like this weapon, mainly it long range power mixed with it power at middle ranges. One of my favourite assault rifles, quite like using it still use it from time to time.

Fast mags , Red dot
MMS , Fast mags
Laser , Fast mags
Quickdraw, Fast mags

M27

Headshots
Until the patch it was a small pain after the patch it was easier. Found using a sight made it easier but for this gun don't use a sight after I get this challenge done.

Longshots accuracy king makes this easy to do, with a long range sight it makes it easy found that using a acog was the best sight. The gun overall is long range so hyrib sight is not that useful.

No perks and naked
Apart from the MTAR can't think of a another gun which is good with nothing on it. Great gun often use it with nothing on it.

Overall it on my favourites assaults rifles, often use it with loads of perks. Along with the AN94/MTAR the M27 is a common assault rifle I use.

Scar

Headshots with the scar are pretty easy due to it recoil pattern. If you want to be lazy spary low and should get one. The high damage means headshots come pretty easy however don't bother using laser. Rate of fire means SMGs eat you up.

Longshots with the scar are a problem with it recoil, in terms of damage due to the range numbers. I used select fire and did it in core. Due to the scar being middle range to long range it pretty easy to do.

No perks and naked
I found this setup pretty easy to do if you keep playing at middle range only. Also did the bloods along with challenge in one go and almost double kills.

Overall I like the scar it one of my highest K.D guns but for some odd reason I don't use it much. Maybe I should change that it a love hate gun.

I found quickdraw/stock
Or stock, silencer
To be the best setup

FAL

Head shots with the semi autos in this game are as painful as the pistols okay more painful compare to pistols. In order to get head shots I used select fire with target finder. Interesting I hate target finder but found it most useful in getting head shots with the FAL. You must note I did use the fal with select fire before the most recent nerf.
So don't know if still a good idea to bother with it most likely no but if you're desperate try it.
Not much point in using select fire anywho.

Long shots again target finder found the best idea was semi auto and never to use select fire. Keep your distance should be easy as pie.

No perks and naked, this was one of the most painful things to try. Mainly as I over did the trigger a bit so the gun would jam. Once I had a couple TDM games done got into the swing of it. Still would say stock up on black hats and EMP nades. If you want to cheese it try it in hardcore it a hoot of a gun.

Overall I don't like the fal, I know it better stat wise compare to the SMR but some reason I like the SMR more. I do okay with the fal but something does not click with me.
Looks great in diamond or camo.

Don't know what to use on this gun.

SMR

Welcome head shot hell like the fal, it a semi auto nightmare for getting head shots. I found that select fire was the best idea with eod tech sight or target finder.
After a couple dozen headshots I moved to using it in semi auto mode bit harder but that extra rof pays off. With the recent nerf to select fire, believe nerfs the ROF again along with the range best get used to the semi auto mode.

Long shots SMR one main strength is it range which is the longest in the game it has the longest 2 hit kill range of any weapon, 3 hit kill also. Due to this long shots was easy so used the EO Tech signt or target finder also found that arog was pretty decent at long shots too. One thing I should have done was play hardcore I did most of the long shots in core. Shows you how strong the gun is.

No perks and naked, pretty annoying it a long range weapon so without perks like flak jacket you become a nade target. Still possible to do but did drop my K.D a lot doing this challenge in TDM/FFA.
Overall my highest K.D gun it outclassed compared to the FAL but I like it more.
Silencer is good pick for it along with a sight to help at longer ranges.

Silencer , eod tech sight.

M8A1

Head shots with this thing is painful. Oddly this gun is short range but for some strange reason arog means more headshots don't know for me it worked.
It painful at first and you need to use toughness to make it work but worth it.

Longshots was acrog and going into hardcore mode it was far easier over core. Argo forced me into a playstyle to get them. It pretty bad at longer range short range to mid range it deadly.

No perks and naked

Overall I like the M8A1 but not enough to use it often.
Fast mags with silencer is the best setup I found for it.


AN94

Headshots with this gun I found a bit of a challenge at first I unlocked it never used it much so at first used a red dot. But over time used no sight just the pain iron sight it one of a couple guns I have no problem using no sight with. If you do have trouble with it use red dot or MMS once you have unlocked it.

Longshots for me was the painful bit for any assault rifle however with the AN94 found it sort of easy due to it range. Setup used was the target finder or a EO Tech sight, slap on quick draw that the setup I used.
Now I did get half the long shots in core mode camping pretty hard on long sight lines, but I found hardcore to be the easier way of doing this challenge. Go into hardcore camp a long sight line or high traffic area and profit. Sort of made me like hardcore a bit more on and off.

No perks and naked, found this pretty easy best tip this goes for all guns black hat/Emp nades stock out your class with these.

Overall the AN94 I found pretty easy to gold, it good with whatever on it.
Things which I liked the best on it was
Stock, quickdraw
Stock, silencer
Stock , Silencer , Quickdraw
Stock , Quickdraw , fast mags
Stock fast mags
Stock , FMJ
Also had a bit of fun using MMS , Stock but with iron sights so good MMS bit of a waste still good.

It a gun that looks good whatever camo , one AR which I still use.

Okay I hope that been helpful for you guys. Most likely not that my set ups I use on the assault rifles in this game.
Fav ARs are AN94/Scar/MTAR/M27
Last edited by ResistTheSun ; 03-30-2013 at 07:27 PM.

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03-27-2013, 10:50 PM #2
Elk
Lithium.
Originally posted by RTS View Post
fisrst I unclocked


This actually was a good thread and included some good, basic set-ups.
Lol'd, "fisrst I unclocled" Haha, but nice work RTS. Smile
03-28-2013, 12:29 AM #3
ResistTheSun
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Originally posted by Elkyeim View Post
This actually was a good thread and included some good, basic set-ups.
Lol'd, "fisrst I unclocled" Haha, but nice work RTS. Smile


Was not sure what else I could add to help people Happy
If got any questions just ask

Originally posted by Mr.
Thanks, the SMR is pissing me off. But you should go through and Bold/Underline the guns so it will be easier for people to find the gun they are looking for. Good thread tho!!


Going too tomorrow wanted to post it so I could get the draft off my PC
May add some more if people want.
03-28-2013, 01:04 AM #4
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
I am in no way going to attempt diamond for assault rifles however, I do like the FAL and it is probably my third favorite gun in the entire game after the MP7 and Skorpion. I think it's inherently silly to make a semi auto full auto because it basically takes the key advantage which is controlled accuracy and it's easier to single fire faster than the thing did in full auto...That being said semi autos seem easy to get headshots with especially since it's a one shot headshot. Slap on a red dot and aim at the head.

Swat 556 isn't as bad as I originally thought and I like it better than M8A1. I think ACOG scope is terrible outside of maybe sniping and I for the life of me can't imagine how someone could do well with something that obstructs your view so much. I picked up an ACOG Swat 556 and it was definitely a monster as long as I kept distance and/or headglitched which I avoid when possible.

Excellent tips though. I think you get a better appreciation for AR in this game because SMGs shit on them to the point that you could make the worst SMG as good as the best AR. Using AR even briefly helps you know how to play SMG users and also allows you to know disadvantages that AR have when using SMGs. There is definitely no ACR, G36 or Type 95 in this game.

I think the FAL(semi auto), AN94, M27, Tar, Scar and maybe M8/Swat are viable options although I get this is more for getting diamond as opposed to actually how to play with them. I won't be getting diamond but I am working towards a gold AN94 as well as a SWAT and these tips will help.
Last edited by Porter_Justice ; 03-28-2013 at 01:06 AM.
03-30-2013, 07:36 PM #5
ResistTheSun
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Originally posted by Justice View Post
I am in no way going to attempt diamond for assault rifles however, I do like the FAL and it is probably my third favorite gun in the entire game after the MP7 and Skorpion. I think it's inherently silly to make a semi auto full auto because it basically takes the key advantage which is controlled accuracy and it's easier to single fire faster than the thing did in full auto...That being said semi autos seem easy to get headshots with especially since it's a one shot headshot. Slap on a red dot and aim at the head.

Swat 556 isn't as bad as I originally thought and I like it better than M8A1. I think ACOG scope is terrible outside of maybe sniping and I for the life of me can't imagine how someone could do well with something that obstructs your view so much. I picked up an ACOG Swat 556 and it was definitely a monster as long as I kept distance and/or headglitched which I avoid when possible.

Excellent tips though. I think you get a better appreciation for AR in this game because SMGs shit on them to the point that you could make the worst SMG as good as the best AR. Using AR even briefly helps you know how to play SMG users and also allows you to know disadvantages that AR have when using SMGs. There is definitely no ACR, G36 or Type 95 in this game.

I think the FAL(semi auto), AN94, M27, Tar, Scar and maybe M8/Swat are viable options although I get this is more for getting diamond as opposed to actually how to play with them. I won't be getting diamond but I am working towards a gold AN94 as well as a SWAT and these tips will help.


Biggest problem with getting gold/diamond it takes time. 9 odd assault rifles which all need 100 headshots and other challenges. So looking at like 800 to 1500 kills with each one. Which adds up to a lot of games, pretty easy just takes some time.

You're right on the FAL/SMR it a bit of a waste to make it full auto. After doing this it made me wonder why it in the game at all.
Semi autos are a 2 hit kill even with a headshot due to how the headshot multiplier in BO2. M8A1 shares no extra damage with a headshot also, a couple others do but I can't remember off the top of my head.

Swat 556 at first hated it with a passion but over time started to love it :(
It a pretty good weapon if you use it right, need to unlock dual kaps for it.

ACOG is pretty good in game, I do use it on a couple of guns for longer ranged maps or guns.
Also like how each weapon has a role too that nice each one sort of a master in a certain area.

Have fun gold AN94 looks good same with the Swat. FAL looks soooo good in diamond makes me want to use it.
04-04-2013, 08:32 PM #6
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
Originally posted by ResistTheSun View Post
Biggest problem with getting gold/diamond it takes time. 9 odd assault rifles which all need 100 headshots and other challenges. So looking at like 800 to 1500 kills with each one. Which adds up to a lot of games, pretty easy just takes some time.

You're right on the FAL/SMR it a bit of a waste to make it full auto. After doing this it made me wonder why it in the game at all.
Semi autos are a 2 hit kill even with a headshot due to how the headshot multiplier in BO2. M8A1 shares no extra damage with a headshot also, a couple others do but I can't remember off the top of my head.

Swat 556 at first hated it with a passion but over time started to love it :(
It a pretty good weapon if you use it right, need to unlock dual kaps for it.

ACOG is pretty good in game, I do use it on a couple of guns for longer ranged maps or guns.
Also like how each weapon has a role too that nice each one sort of a master in a certain area.

Have fun gold AN94 looks good same with the Swat. FAL looks soooo good in diamond makes me want to use it.


I'd imagine they added the full auto option to appease those known to use rapid fire controllers. Obviously people always want the easy way out but as good as full auto FAL was at release, it was still better in semi auto. Obviously it's easier in full auto but in semi auto you can shoot it faster, manage recoil and can be more accurate. Although most people don't really care about trying to get 2-3 accurate shots on target when they could spray 9-10 shots.

It's basically an oxymoron to me. Using a precision weapon the way you would use full auto. Worst is the SVU sniper people using a damn class built on precision to destroy in one shot to spray and pray.
04-05-2013, 04:43 PM #7
Cryptic
Former Staff | Content Manager
I disagree with the Tar completely. It is by far the WORST gun I've tried to get gold so far.
04-07-2013, 02:33 AM #8
ImHaXUnique
Space Ninja
This thread actullay helped! Thanks
04-07-2013, 11:47 AM #9
ResistTheSun
In Flames Much?
Originally posted by Cryptic
I disagree with the Tar completely. It is by far the WORST gun I've tried to get gold so far.


I think shotguns are worse to get gold followed by pistols.
Tar so good don't understand why people don't use it. Only real downside it lack of long range power but with easy recoil simple to fix.

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