Post: TreyArch can't save you
10-30-2010, 10:10 PM #1
Porter_Justice
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My K/D is only 1.25 and my best match was 81-13 on Sub Base with the M16, and I had a 60-7 match on Favela with the Mini Uzi so in no way do I think I'm great, but i'm sure there are lots of people who will agree with what I'm about to say....

Pull your skirts down. I'm going to name some of the things people seem to hate the most in MW2 and explain how they weren't so bad and how thinking that playing Black Ops will make you better if you sucked at MW2 is probably false.

-Killstreaks...Now a lot of people talked about how Killstreaks were overpowered in MW2, which is complete BS. For one, if people had a Cold Blooded Stinger Class ready they could prevent a lot of the KS from happening. Most people have a Harrier somewhere in their setup whether it's 5-7-9 or 7-11-25 or 5-7-8 or even 4-5-7.

All it takes is ONE stinger to take a Harrier down, yet I see so many teams getting raped by a Harrier because people are either too dumb or lazy to use ONE stinger to take the Harrier down. I had a class with SOH, CB, Ninja with Stinger Secondary, easy to take things down.

The only other reason people may hate KS is because they can't get the higher ones. If you can only barely get a Care Package once a game, then OF COURSE YOU HATE KILLSTREAKS. Now KS will not stack and you have to earn them all. However people who were good at getting KS in MW2(with or without camping) are STILL going to be able to get them in Black Ops, so you're still going to get raped.


"Overpowered Guns"...We all had access to the SAME guns in MW2 yet people talked about guns having "no recoil, too much power, stopping power, blah blah blah" If all the guns have "little to no recoil" then technically aren't the guns balanced? I do understand the UMP might be a tad overpowered lol but deal with it.....I used a Tar 21 for the most part in MW2, an "overpowered" gun. I switched recently to the M16 to switch it up. That gun in the right hands is super dangerous I will admit, however if you're used to spraying and praying with a LMG, then chances are you'll still suck....My motto has been I don't care what gun I get killed by as long as it's not a Noobtube. UMP or a ACR, a death is a death to me, so why cry about it? As long as I help my team and get kills why should I care what gun kills me? A gun isn't going to make a player good if he's terrible.

Black Ops will have these same "overpowred" guns too, so get ready.

-Camping, this is probably the dumbest complaint about MW2 because camping is going to run rampant in ANY FPS, and as long as it's not the ole sitting next to a door with Shotgun camping it's a pretty realistic strategy. I prefer not to camp however, I prefer to make sure I get behind cover as I shoot if there is any, if I hear footsteps, I may hide to gain advantage and shoot the player EVEN IF HE HAS AN UMP and I have a Mini Uzi. In that scenario he could say I was camping, but in reality, I heard him coming and did the smart thing, to hide for a second and kill him....The fact that you crybabies that hated stacking KS complained means camping will be even more rampant in Black Ops. Quit running around with Akimbo guns with NO sense of awareness getting killed by people hiding.


-Quick Scoping, Drop Shots, Now I think BOTH of these things were annoying as hell in MW2 but in no way do I think they must be taken out of Black Ops. Because for one, I got Drop shot killed 1 out of like every 200 deaths. Secondly most quick scopers I saw weren't all that good. I played mostly Ground War and some FFA. and in those playlists Quick Scoping is just asking to go 10-29, which some people have fun dying like that, I don't. Let people have their fun trying to Quick Scope on maps like Rust or Vacant.

The point is, things like boosting and Noobtubing are so ****ing gay and I feel y'all pain when it comes to those things. Those things and maybe even Commando are really terrible things. As far as complaning about guns, perks, killstreaks some of you should just stop crying and complaining so much.

Again I'm not the best, but as long as someone isn't noobtubing, or boosting or quitting and causing the game to end because he got raped, all is fair....See you all in Black Ops. But remember if you're terrible and you're the type who goes 13-20 every match, or you're the type who would take noob routes on maps, or the type who didn't know or try to get out of Spawn Traps, Trey Arch and Black Ops can't save you. YOU WILL STILL GET RAPED :black:
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11-02-2010, 11:09 PM #29
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
Originally posted by TryABaconSlice View Post
Alot of people including myself are concerned about realism. the thing is, people ask for realism yet they complain about over powered guns. If you get killed by a few rounds to the chest from an LMG that is realistic. How many LMG bullets do you think someone can realistically take before they drop?


Exactly. That's the hard part about shooter games. Because technically the realistic thing to do would be to camp and have the most powerful gun. So it's hard to throw out that realism card. There has to be a balance of fun and realism

Originally posted by Bladebearer View Post
You can't say that overpowered killstreaks and guns are nothing to rant about as I might like commando and noobtubing and hate overpowered guns and killstreaks (I REALLY HATE THOSE) Im just saying that it is your opion and you can't say "don't cry about it" because you are complaining about commando and I could say "don't cry about it"

Lets face it your right that proper campers sit an a corner waiting for you to enter the game

Black Ops = Too complicated + second chance + noobtubes + cod points = a fail and a shitty game

Im looking forward to Black Ops.....but its just changed too much from the games people loved such as cod4 and waw. As someone once said, "don't change your game so much that your fans don't like it!"


Being able to shoot noobtubes in the air and get kills is gay. That can't be compared to KS or Commando even imo

Originally posted by ez2animate View Post
They don't complain because there are rules and standards at machinima. They get paid for that and they are expected to have top nothc gameplay and commentary. And please stop saying "take the death like a man". That doesn't sound right in any way. It's true the UMP is overpowered, so is the tar, m16, hell even the rafficas are overpowered. You have a right to complain though.


I said this in another thread and if you read what I put it makes a whole lot of sense when it comes to the whole "guns are overpowered" lame excuse...


If every gun or most guns are so overpowered then wouldn't that technically make things even?????? I mean if they make every gun underpowered, wouldn't we be still equal? It's not like on W@W where the MP40 was arguably the most powerful gun on the game. On MW2, the Tar, AK-47, Scar, UMP, M16, FAMAS, FAL RPD, AUG HBAR are ALL super powerful in their own way.

I'd understand the "guns are overpowered" argument more if there were like 2 or 3 guns that were more powerful than the rest but I just named TEN guns that are powerful. If you decide to use a Vector with Hardline or something that's on you

My point is whether I die from an F2000 w/o stopping power or an UMP w/stopping power, a death is a death. And in no way am I going to say, "oh well he had an UMP, that gun is overpowered"

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I mean when you guys play Madden 11(if you do)...Does a TD not count if it was thrown to Randy Moss? On basketball, does a dunk not count if it's Dwight Howard? I'll never understand the online gamer mindset. Cheap things like tubing and boosting, and commando maybe...All those things I understand.

But crying about killstreaks when you don't even have a Stinger Class is lame.

Crying about overpowered guns WHEN THERE ARE LIKE 10 powerful guns is lame.

And there may not always be balance in MW2 but there are risk and rewards. People hate stopping power but if you have Danger Close Pro your predator missile, Harrier, and Pavelow is like 40% more powerful and it EPIC RAPES....
11-02-2010, 11:14 PM #30
ez2animate
Space Ninja
Your not getting what I'm saying. People have the right to complain. If it's something as obvious as the UMP being overpowered, or if they complain because somehow a throwing knife or a building got them, it's only your right.

I stayed home from school yesterday so I decided to play a little mw2. I had no friends on so I go into a FFA and try quickscoping without SoH. My mom was on the couch next to me folding laundry, and then this kid started shouting after every death "fking whore" "zomg you suck my dick" "Im so much better than you because you fuking suk" and my mom just started laughing. Why does this shit bug you? I just laugh at them, but when an AC-130 is towering ahead on wasteland, you might as well leave now. There's no escaping it.

*EDIT*
YOU still don't see your contradiction. You can't say one thing is gay and turn a blind side to the others. I don't understand YOUR mind set.
11-03-2010, 12:10 AM #31
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
Originally posted by ez2animate View Post
Your not getting what I'm saying. People have the right to complain. If it's something as obvious as the UMP being overpowered, or if they complain because somehow a throwing knife or a building got them, it's only your right.

I stayed home from school yesterday so I decided to play a little mw2. I had no friends on so I go into a FFA and try quickscoping without SoH. My mom was on the couch next to me folding laundry, and then this kid started shouting after every death "fking whore" "zomg you suck my dick" "Im so much better than you because you fuking suk" and my mom just started laughing. Why does this shit bug you? I just laugh at them, but when an AC-130 is towering ahead on wasteland, you might as well leave now. There's no escaping it.

*EDIT*
YOU still don't see your contradiction. You can't say one thing is gay and turn a blind side to the others. I don't understand YOUR mind set.


My mindset is this. There is no way I can condone someone Noobtubing especially with One Man Army and Danger Close. The reason is it can take strategy or maybe even skill but in most cases it really doesnt. Some guy can just shoot a noobtube at a wall and then kill someone. Even worse he can shoot them up in the sky hoping to get a kill, and with One Man Army he can keep doing it.

You can't compare that to an "overpowered" gun. Since there are about 10 guns I've seen people say are overpowered. At least with a gun you have to aim, use some type of strategy, drop shots, etc. With a noobtube you can literally shoot a tube or an RPG and die as you kill someone. If someone isn't very good to begin with a gun will not make them great. A noobtube however can.

I also doubt the guy's at Machinima don't complain since they're getting paid. Some people actually do enjoy the game for the most part. I mean, I'd think someone who likes a game seems a tad bit more rational than all the people who act like it's the worst game ever BUT PLAY IT EVERY DAY

We all have things that we don't like, but the overpowered gun excuse is sorta a lame one imo...I mean what gun and perks do YOU use?
11-03-2010, 11:03 PM #32
Originally posted by xLew
****ing hate these lil cry babies, all they do it geek it up on the forums propa bumming the mods etc and then when they have a 5 min break from the online forum world, they get banged so ard on their console they rage quit and return to the forum of their choice only to bitch cry and complain things are over powered etc... ****ing annoyed me big time when all these forum fannies got that little 5 second rule on noobtubes on w@w i hope to god that they dont put this on BO i loved smashing snd up with a tube, many of you will dissagree with me but thats my style of play rush, rush hard!! tub then run n gun!! many off you rushers will know how it is!

another annoying thing about these little bitches is that they just wine and wine and never see the full potential.. if something is overpowered use it to ur advantage and smash people up.. use ya head ..


It's not just forums, all I ever hear is people bitching down the mic.

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11-04-2010, 01:48 AM #33
ez2animate
Space Ninja
Originally posted by Justice View Post
My mindset is this. There is no way I can condone someone Noobtubing especially with One Man Army and Danger Close. The reason is it can take strategy or maybe even skill but in most cases it really doesnt. Some guy can just shoot a noobtube at a wall and then kill someone. Even worse he can shoot them up in the sky hoping to get a kill, and with One Man Army he can keep doing it.

You can't compare that to an "overpowered" gun. Since there are about 10 guns I've seen people say are overpowered. At least with a gun you have to aim, use some type of strategy, drop shots, etc. With a noobtube you can literally shoot a tube or an RPG and die as you kill someone. If someone isn't very good to begin with a gun will not make them great. A noobtube however can.

I also doubt the guy's at Machinima don't complain since they're getting paid. Some people actually do enjoy the game for the most part. I mean, I'd think someone who likes a game seems a tad bit more rational than all the people who act like it's the worst game ever BUT PLAY IT EVERY DAY

We all have things that we don't like, but the overpowered gun excuse is sorta a lame one imo...I mean what gun and perks do YOU use?


So when are you going to admit your a "whiny bitch" and say,"Ya, I see my contradiction"? If camping is fine why isn't noobtubing? It's equally as annoying to die by a camper as it is a noobtuber. You sir, are not worth my time. Go re-read all the shit you said, and then hopefully you see what you're doing wrong. If your ok with one thing, then you need to be equally ok with everything else. "I'm ok with getting rained down on by an AC-130 and dying 14 times in a row, and when I finally get away from it and get inside a building, I'm fine with getting a spas up my ass. But when I get noobtubed, that's crossing the line."

And personally what guns do I use? 95% of the time I'm using the Intervention. The other 5% are just randomly chosen. I mostly use the M-16. P90, sometimes the Uzi, and once in a while, the UMP. I don't have a preference with guns, the only exception being my sniper.
11-04-2010, 01:56 AM #34
HeadHunterM7
You Spin Me Right Round
lets get the facts straight though, MW2 is not a skill based game. people with less skill can do just as good as people who are new at the game
11-04-2010, 04:31 AM #35
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
Originally posted by ez2animate View Post
So when are you going to admit your a "whiny bitch" and say,"Ya, I see my contradiction"? If camping is fine why isn't noobtubing? It's equally as annoying to die by a camper as it is a noobtuber. You sir, are not worth my time. Go re-read all the shit you said, and then hopefully you see what you're doing wrong. If your ok with one thing, then you need to be equally ok with everything else. "I'm ok with getting rained down on by an AC-130 and dying 14 times in a row, and when I finally get away from it and get inside a building, I'm fine with getting a spas up my ass. But when I get noobtubed, that's crossing the line."

And personally what guns do I use? 95% of the time I'm using the Intervention. The other 5% are just randomly chosen. I mostly use the M-16. P90, sometimes the Uzi, and once in a while, the UMP. I don't have a preference with guns, the only exception being my sniper.


So you say I'm not worth your time but and run out of things to say yet I'm a "whiny bitch"??? A guy shooting a ****ing noobtube in the air and in landing and killing people is 10 TIMES more gay than a guy sitting in the corner, waiting and killing you. Because at least the camper sees you, as opposed to shooting in the sky and praying. Are YOU a Noobtuber or something is that why it offends you?

Chances are if you use the Intervention 95% of the time you're probably some wannabe quick scoper who gets owned anyway...And I'm sure running around shooting a damn Sniper Rifle from the hip for a one/two hit kill is somehow realistic.

There is NO contradiction. Campers are like the easiest ****ing people to kill. Are you serious? I'd respect a camper over some lame ass guy shooting noobtubes at a wall and getting kiled. At least camping is a real life strategy, shooting ****ing grenades at walls and hoping for kills. And I only mention Noobtubes because I do believe it is a real issue with the game. But in all honestly it's not like Noobtubers stop me from having great games because they don't. But I don't run around with a damn Intervention like you do neither. Quick Scopers are cool and all, but don't come on here talking about realism or things being bad when you're running around with a sniper rifle. C'mon Son

I stated that noobtubing is gay because you can aim at a wall, shoot them in the air, and have unlimited refills with One Man Army. At least with these supposed overpowered guns you have to aim at the person and shoot. To get a multi kill with a gun you have to aim, to get a multikill with a Noobtube you can just shoot in a room and hope for the best. It's like you're comparing killing a roach to killing a dog just because it's killing in both cases. You are just arguing for the sake of arguing. You can't compare a NOOBTUBE to a gun. And at the end of the day, as gay as noobtubes are I STILL RAPE PEOPLE, not because I'm so great but because it's a videogame and part of the fun of it is stopping the gay shit people do, but in your world, you can't compete so you'd rather get on the internet to cry and hope Trey Arch fixes it so your quick scoping ass can avoid getting Spas from "across the map"


You ran out of shit to combat so you call me a "whiny bitch" when my thread is meant to shut up whiny bitches to begin with. I laid out TEN ****ING guns that are "overpowered" so that you'd see that it's not like there are 2 super unbalanced guns, if any thing there are AT LEAST TEN that are "unbalanced" which to me sounds like it's balanced after all. One trigger tap with the M16 or Famas vs spraying a few bullets with the UMP, Tar, AK-47.

How about you just say we can agree to disagree instead of showing how owned you are, by trying to call me a whiny bitch when you got nothing else to say. YOU are the one complaining about A GUN BEING TO POWERFUL IN A DAMN VIDEOGAME. I'm sure a damn BB gun would probably take a damn crybaby like yourself down.


If you can't have intelligent discussion then STFU, and go complain about how your garbage ass gets killed because they GUN IS OVERPOWERED, and NOT AT ALL because you're probably ass. (You see I can argue like an idiot like you).

Point is, quit ****ing crying about the game, we all know the issues with it, and making guns LESS powerful should be the least of Trey Arch worries, it's not like the guns' power are unrealistic
11-04-2010, 05:03 AM #36
Gaia
Former Staff
I heard the mp5k has no recoil in Black Ops, can anyone confirm?
11-04-2010, 05:04 AM #37
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
Originally posted by ez2animate View Post
Haha, nice contradiction man. Start ranting on how your better than everyone else because you think a silence smg w/o stopping power should kill through a dumpster


Originally posted by ez2animate View Post
Your not getting what I'm saying. People have the right to complain. If it's something as obvious as the UMP being overpowered, or if they complain because somehow a throwing knife or a building got them, it's only your right.

I stayed home from school yesterday so I decided to play a little mw2. I had no friends on so I go into a FFA and try quickscoping without SoH. My mom was on the couch next to me folding laundry, and then this kid started shouting after every death "fking whore" "zomg you suck my dick" "Im so much better than you because you fuking suk" and my mom just started laughing. Why does this shit bug you? I just laugh at them, but when an AC-130 is towering ahead on wasteland, you might as well leave now. There's no escaping it.

*EDIT*
YOU still don't see your contradiction. You can't say one thing is gay and turn a blind side to the others. I don't understand YOUR mind set.


Originally posted by ez2animate View Post
So when are you going to admit your a "whiny bitch" and say,"Ya, I see my contradiction"? If camping is fine why isn't noobtubing? It's equally as annoying to die by a camper as it is a noobtuber. You sir, are not worth my time. Go re-read all the shit you said, and then hopefully you see what you're doing wrong. If your ok with one thing, then you need to be equally ok with everything else. "I'm ok with getting rained down on by an AC-130 and dying 14 times in a row, and when I finally get away from it and get inside a building, I'm fine with getting a spas up my ass. But when I get noobtubed, that's crossing the line."

And personally what guns do I use? 95% of the time I'm using the Intervention. The other 5% are just randomly chosen. I mostly use the M-16. P90, sometimes the Uzi, and once in a while, the UMP. I don't have a preference with guns, the only exception being my sniper.


When you come back to the forums from getting raped by an Overpowered gun, I want you to read up on what a "contradiction" is because it's clear you don't know what that word means but you like to use it.

A contradiction would be if I said Noobtubes are gay as hell, yet when you see me play or if I came back and told you I use Noobtubes. Saying one thing is gay, and another isn't is not a contradiction it's an opinion...Let me give you two examples before you find the next "mature" name to call me to make up for your lack of discussion ability.

Example of a contradiction....I think it's pathetic for ez2animate's to give women money to go out with him...I give women money to go out with me

Example of an opinion or non contradiction....I think ez2animate's girlfriend is a whore cuz she was with 50 guys. I don't think my girlfriend is a whore because she's only been with 4 guys.

Good day sir :mudkip:

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