Originally posted by Justice
They are never going to make it so it's not "so easy to hide". People who use Spy Planes after 3 or even TWO kills are funny to me. You get 3 kills and you expect to see everybody really? I bet you in MW2 you heard enemy UAV twice a game usually, on Black Ops Spy Plane is used every 8+ times a game. And they aren't "keeping off the map". You kill Ghost users the same way YOU KILL PEOPLE WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A SPY PLANE. People act like Ghost literally makes you invisible. If people didn't rely on chasing red dots all game and had awareness Ghost wouldn't be a problem. Or they would use Blackbird. If p
I don't get the issue with people talking about campers. If you play Hardcore Modes or HQ then those are EPIC campfests.
But Ground War or TDM, camping isn't an issue. I still got 30-50 kills most games. So I don't get the camper issue at all. When you go in rooms use flash bangs or use Blackbird. I'm not saying camping is good but it's become a crutch in this community. I've seen games where the enemy's bottom four players are a combined 10-70. I guess maybe if they didn't "camp" it would be 8-80 or something?
Also they will always have rooms and cover in the game. Part of the challenge is playing objective and finding campers. I mean people run 2 kills Spy Planes all game, so I don't have an issue with Ghost, it's needed. Not to camp but to rush the spawn.
The game is boring because it's balanced. People bitched about MW2 and overpowered weapons, and killstreaks. Black Ops for the most part doesn't have that issue, and not it's boring as a result.
Me and the people I play with have games where we all get 30+ kills. I'm not saying this to brag, I'm saying it to say that camping isn't a big of a deal as people make it out to be. UNLESS you play Hardcore modes. Those are HARDCORE campers.
Me I rush, have awareness and play defensive if I'm outnumbered. People are going to camp, they aren't just going to run in the open all game saying, "HERE I AM SHOOT ME". It's OUR job to find those bastards and kill them, it's not Treyarch's, Infinity Ward's or anybody else's job. For every 10 deaths I have, maybe 3 are from "campers"
And half the time people call everybody that kills them a camper. Not saying you do, but people do it. If I have a Blackbird up and I see two arrows coming my way. I will get behind cover and kill them. To them it may seem that I was "camping" but in reality I knew they were there and I outplayed them.
I would NEVER sit in a room waiting on somebody for a long time, because THAT is camping. Using your environment or KNOWING the enemy is coming to revenge kill you or something is not camping.
But regardless like I said the game proves that "balance" does not equal fun. Making KS not stack forces people to "camp" more. But I mean so what, find them and kill them. I see it as a challenge, not an excuse for why I die or why the game is boring. But that's just me.
Listen this post is not about ghost just ghost
It about the overall problem of stealth within COD games.
Off the top of my head i can
Simple ready use ghost can't put on a silent weapon.
Right now it far too easy to keep off the radar just by using certain perks. And then i can make it so people can't hear me coming.
Fair ?
I think not being silent and off the map should be a challenge not some perk you put on.
It a problem i had with all past CODs stealth is far too easy in black ops it wins. Why it a more defense playstyle which many players camp their arse off. Slowing the game down.
You need to make it harder to be unseen.
Black ops is fair from balanced btw