Post: Why black ops is boring
02-21-2011, 11:45 PM #1
ResistTheSun
In Flames Much?
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This means players can camp more and well you know slow the game pace down.

Thing is it how players play the game that caused it.
Sadly it the same fault MW2 and all COD games had.
Along with the connection based nature of COD in general. Sooo how to fix it that simple remove the connection based issues.
Reward players for objectives and above all don't make it soo easy to hide.

Agree ?

Also pure TDM much faster then normal TDM Smile
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02-22-2011, 07:22 PM #20
Hare
Do a barrel roll!
i go play cod4/mw2 for a few days and then load up black ops...and im like why the **** am i lagging i have 4 bars :\
02-22-2011, 07:24 PM #21
ResistTheSun
In Flames Much?
Originally posted by Justice View Post
They are never going to make it so it's not "so easy to hide". People who use Spy Planes after 3 or even TWO kills are funny to me. You get 3 kills and you expect to see everybody really? I bet you in MW2 you heard enemy UAV twice a game usually, on Black Ops Spy Plane is used every 8+ times a game. And they aren't "keeping off the map". You kill Ghost users the same way YOU KILL PEOPLE WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A SPY PLANE. People act like Ghost literally makes you invisible. If people didn't rely on chasing red dots all game and had awareness Ghost wouldn't be a problem. Or they would use Blackbird. If p

I don't get the issue with people talking about campers. If you play Hardcore Modes or HQ then those are EPIC campfests.

But Ground War or TDM, camping isn't an issue. I still got 30-50 kills most games. So I don't get the camper issue at all. When you go in rooms use flash bangs or use Blackbird. I'm not saying camping is good but it's become a crutch in this community. I've seen games where the enemy's bottom four players are a combined 10-70. I guess maybe if they didn't "camp" it would be 8-80 or something?

Also they will always have rooms and cover in the game. Part of the challenge is playing objective and finding campers. I mean people run 2 kills Spy Planes all game, so I don't have an issue with Ghost, it's needed. Not to camp but to rush the spawn.

The game is boring because it's balanced. People bitched about MW2 and overpowered weapons, and killstreaks. Black Ops for the most part doesn't have that issue, and not it's boring as a result.

Me and the people I play with have games where we all get 30+ kills. I'm not saying this to brag, I'm saying it to say that camping isn't a big of a deal as people make it out to be. UNLESS you play Hardcore modes. Those are HARDCORE campers.

Me I rush, have awareness and play defensive if I'm outnumbered. People are going to camp, they aren't just going to run in the open all game saying, "HERE I AM SHOOT ME". It's OUR job to find those bastards and kill them, it's not Treyarch's, Infinity Ward's or anybody else's job. For every 10 deaths I have, maybe 3 are from "campers"

And half the time people call everybody that kills them a camper. Not saying you do, but people do it. If I have a Blackbird up and I see two arrows coming my way. I will get behind cover and kill them. To them it may seem that I was "camping" but in reality I knew they were there and I outplayed them.

I would NEVER sit in a room waiting on somebody for a long time, because THAT is camping. Using your environment or KNOWING the enemy is coming to revenge kill you or something is not camping.

But regardless like I said the game proves that "balance" does not equal fun. Making KS not stack forces people to "camp" more. But I mean so what, find them and kill them. I see it as a challenge, not an excuse for why I die or why the game is boring. But that's just me.


Listen this post is not about ghost just ghost
It about the overall problem of stealth within COD games.

Off the top of my head i can
Simple ready use ghost can't put on a silent weapon.
Right now it far too easy to keep off the radar just by using certain perks. And then i can make it so people can't hear me coming.

Fair ?

I think not being silent and off the map should be a challenge not some perk you put on.
It a problem i had with all past CODs stealth is far too easy in black ops it wins. Why it a more defense playstyle which many players camp their arse off. Slowing the game down.

You need to make it harder to be unseen.
Black ops is fair from balanced btw
02-22-2011, 07:40 PM #22
Phabio92
Bounty hunter
No. Black Ops is boring because it hasn't changed one bit. Ever since CoD 4 its always been TDM, Domination, Headquarters, Sabotage, its all the same game just will different guns and killstreaks. With 3 developers working on the next game I think they're doing something drastically different to give the series a new face lift. Lets hope Winky Winky

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02-22-2011, 08:57 PM #23
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
Originally posted by ResistTheSun View Post
Listen this post is not about ghost just ghost
It about the overall problem of stealth within COD games.

Off the top of my head i can
Simple ready use ghost can't put on a silent weapon.
Right now it far too easy to keep off the radar just by using certain perks. And then i can make it so people can't hear me coming.

Fair ?

I think not being silent and off the map should be a challenge not some perk you put on.
It a problem i had with all past CODs stealth is far too easy in black ops it wins. Why it a more defense playstyle which many players camp their arse off. Slowing the game down.

You need to make it harder to be unseen.
Black ops is fair from balanced btw


Yes ts fair since you can be stealth too. Ghost only keeps you off radar. Suppresor is an attachment only. If Spy Planes werent so heavily used or werent SUPER easy to obtain(2 kills specifically) I would be with you.

In MW2 Ninja was the Stealth perk.

I dont get how you are trying to say being a Stealth player is bad assuming not camping. And compared to MW2 it IS a balanced game which is why it is boring.

On MW2 5 kills could get you 25... I liked that dont get me wrong. Its not Activision's job to make people stop camping or being Stealth its OURS. Black Ops IS balanced. The skill level of players isnt. I have seen guys go 3-30 on Black Ops. On MW2 only a booster would be that terrible.

You say staying off HUD should be challenge but you dont liie the challenge of finding these Stealth players.

I normally agree with your posts but saying Stealth in COD series is too easy is weird. Players arent g oing to make it easy to find them.

My silenced class is hardline, warlord, marathon and if I kill the enemy in their Spawn thats Bad??? Explain how Black Ops is "FAR FROM BALANCED"..... Before you say 74u /Famas usage... There are 8 Good guns in this game, if people choose 2 guns the most then thats a community issue
02-22-2011, 09:35 PM #24
helpmeoprah
FormerStaff HATED ON
Originally posted by ResistTheSun View Post
Black ops is boring because it far too easy to hide and keep off the map
This means players can camp more and well you know slow the game pace down.

Thing is it how players play the game that caused it.
Sadly it the same fault MW2 and all COD games had.
Along with the connection based nature of COD in general. Sooo how to fix it that simple remove the connection based issues.
Reward players for objectives and above all don't make it soo easy to hide.

Agree ?

Also pure TDM much faster then normal TDM Smile


Originally posted by o View Post
I hate b.ops
worst cod ever my
opinion


Originally posted by vZiGY View Post
black ops is boring because half the people rock ghost.



quit complaining and go sell your copy of the game =D

Originally posted by ResistTheSun View Post
Claps well done
I like black ops just something i noticed in black ops keeping off the radar pays off too much and well it far too easy.
Can become a ghost with two perks and one add on.
Should be harder then that to keep off the radar.


first you whine then "i love black ops", so hypocritical
02-22-2011, 09:45 PM #25
mattk3650
Climbing up the ladder
I think its too boring because it takes too long to rank up. It wouldn't be so ****ing boring if I had motivation to rank up other than, "Well maybe by MW4 I'll be 15th prestige"
02-22-2011, 11:36 PM #26
iPeNeTrATIoNz
Bounty hunter
If you guys hate the perks and killstreaks, why dont you play "PURE TDM". That game mode dont have any perks and killstreaks and the game mode is for skilled players.
02-22-2011, 11:37 PM #27
HtD
Dark Knight
Originally posted by helpmeoprah View Post
quit complaining and go sell your copy of the game =D



first you whine then "i love black ops", so hypocritical


Who the hell would pay more then 20 bucks for a used black ops? We cant sell it maan :FU:
02-22-2011, 11:45 PM #28
helpmeoprah
FormerStaff HATED ON
Originally posted by HtD View Post
Who the hell would pay more then 20 bucks for a used black ops? We cant sell it maan :FU:


have you been to gamestop lately? those bitches buy every thing

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