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Alright for people reading this for every shot gun I mention turn on ur x box or ps3 and compare the range bars.

Spas 12 range bar about half of the 1887. Spas range=25m 30 with steady aim. max
model 1887/akimbo about 5m max?
This isn't right I really have trouble believing that they didn't patch the first gun you get which has a low range bar but with 25m range? Goes to around 30m when you hip fire with steady aim! This is 20m less than the "overpowered" 1887s. Well look at it this way. If a gun unlocked at level 1 has a total range of about 30m, why cant a level 67 shotgun have 50m range? Its 66 levels more to unlock for 20m more range?

The next shot gun I compared the 1887s with was the AA 12
I put grip on. Take a guess which had more range? 1887s? NO.

The Striker even beat out its range comparing a 67 gun to a 34 gun?
And to say it again, the spas is unlocked at level 1. Why is it so much more powerful than the striker you get at the level of 34?

I then tested the M1014 or w/e its called
I had two people stand about 10m away from each other. One with models akimbo, one with m1014 the 1887s missed miserably. The m1014 did to. I moved them closer to about 8m. The Models missed miserably again and the m1014 got the kill. Wonderful.

Next was the rangers with fmj.
I tested this like I tested the m1014. The rangers got the kill.

So to recap Level 67 shotgun= worst. 5m 7w/steady aim.
Level 1 shot gun best 30m.

Post your thoughts and if you feel it was an alright post rep is always wanted

yh its pointless looking at the in game stats, they are always wrong, in fact they've been wrong in cod4,5 and now mw2.

your better off looking at something like the den kirson website which has actual proven statistics from testing them or getting stats from pc save files.

take the famas for example, it says it has low damage, it actually has a further 1 hit kill range than the M16, so it will kill in 1 burst at a longer distance than the M16, so it obviously has better damage.

or from cod5 compare the SVT and Gewehr, the SVT had a higher damage stat, except they were actually identical. its the same with many guns.

Stop ****ing posting this shit video no one cares.
Moderators please bring your IP Banning Hammer Out.
btw Spas-12 with grip on > any other shotgun

Its so annoying to see the 1887's in the state they are. It proves that IW are so lazy that they cant go out and actualy get experiance of the guns.

the models are akimbo, thats why. i went 54-8 with the models yesterday( uav,counter,pred missile). 1887 still PWN big time

SPAS 12 owns the models (L)

ill take the striker before the spaz..with spaz ur dead when getting a hit marker cos the pump is so slow

the models where fine before nerfd, the reason why? because they unlock at level 67? no, the reason is they are long barrel shotguns, designed for range, any way, back to what i was gonna say

IW have completely screwed up the gun stats, nothing is based on the real world counter parts, and i knew it would be like that to a certain degree, CoD has never been and never will be a sim shooter, its an arcade FPS through n through, always has always will be

however, not taking the time to polish simple games mechanics before release is pathetic, and has turned this game into a laughing stock, my question is, who the heck did the game testing in mw2?

yeahh your possibly right
just gota be quick with the spas though and its beast

I agree with most of your posts especially Dub Zee. Why? Have you seen the barrel on the 1887s? Its pathetic to see the range being usless.