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anyone agree with me that the SPAS is an absolute piece of crap? don't get me wrong its got a fantastic range and often gets you 1 hit kills at a good distance, but when i switch to a shotgun its when someone is coming close quarters, and no matter what i do the spas seems to get hitmarkers at close range yet it 1 hit kills at further range, just defeats the object, if it could 1 hit kill at close range consistently it'd be perfect.
at the minute im using the M1014(Grip) and AA-12(Extended Mags) and finding them by far the best.

Secondly: anyone agree that CoD needs much more customisation? there is a lot compared to some games, but i think we should have alot more options, such as being able to change the calibre of the round thats fired, and adjusting the gun itself and adding parts to it other than iron sights.
so specifically parts which can change velocity,damage, armor peircing,recoil,zoom,accuracy etc
anyone who is familiar with guns will know there are many, many ways to customise a weapon.

yes there are things which do this, but i think having alot of smaller options would be good, especially as it could allow more unique setups instead of the classic, scavenger, stopping power, any perk 3 with AR grenade launcher.

If you get a hit marker with the Spas-12 , You shouldn't be allowed to use it. End Of

not really, i used the spas for 90% of the time. I got fed up of the same old thing, dominating everything over 1 metre away, then when they get into close range where the shotgun should dominate you get a hitmarker. sometimes the spas is just awesome but the close range hitmarkers are a joke becuase it fails where you really need it to work.

by using the M1014 and AA-12(which isn't semi-automatic, its fully automatic) although i don't have that amazing range, they do the job i want a shotgun to do on this game, and win close quarters fights, no hitmarkers. They also are much better against multiple opponents and room clearing is a breeze.

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what attachments do you use on it then?

seriously try Spas-12 with grip and steady aim, it gets more hitmarkers than kills.
take steady aim off and its alot better, still crap at close range though, commando is more effective.

Full Auto shotguns are the future ^

Try the spas-12?
I just have 2500 Kills and around 700 headshots with it.
Rarely ever i get hitmarkers with the Spas if I use it properly

so do i, ive had 2500 kills for a long time. i have used it tons and its great but with obvious flaws.

seriously, when you go on mw2 next use spas-12 with grip attachment and steady aim as perk 3, try it out and its hitmarker, after hitmarker.

perhaps its because its more accurate, so the bullets don't spread enough up close, but that allows it to do the job at a greater distance.
either way its not doing the job a shotgun should do in close quarters, i don't expect to fire 2 feet away direct on target and get killed by a PP2000 because of a hitmarker.

I agree with you, by the time they realized ive hit them they're dead



Idk, Ive used steady aim with the spas before and seems to do fine.
Just use the M1014 if you dont like the spas

I usually don't use the shotguns at all but the past few days I have used the striker with grip and ext mags and it's a beast.

If anyone has played Army of Two you know the gun customization is awesome, that is how CoD should be in my opionion, as far as the spas goes, aim down the barrel then fire I have no problem with hitmarkers. I mostly love it because of the range like everyone else but when its close quarters I try not to free-fire (without L1) because thats how I used to get hitmarkers. As long as you aim with L1 you should be fine.

I know what your saying about the SPAS, I had the same problem when I would try to use it with my MP5 silent class, which used cold-blooded. You NEED stopping power with the SPAS, and a red dot for some reason seems to increase the kill probability. It doesn't make sense to me to look down the sights of a shotgun, but thats the system COD uses :rolleyes: