Post: A constructive rant
01-18-2010, 03:41 AM #1
bmxdude9
Million Miles Of Fun!
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Okay, after an entire day of rage, landing the f word numerous times loudly in my house, whining about lag or some camper I realized that we all share the same rage in some ways more than others, whilst I am writing this out of rage there are things that need to be said properly instead of complete caps and making it seem worse than it is. Please realize that I am not going to make this the same old, same old, so neither should you by giving the same hated response, we should discuss what is the most important in a proper manner.

First on our order of business on this rant we need to establish camping pisses ALL of us off, I am sure I can speak for those that used to play cod4 and beyond on their ps2 or PC (and PS3 back in the day) that you had to LEARN how to play online, I remember when I got cod4 last year for Christmas with my ps3 it was really my first online shooter(besides ones on the ps2 if those count) and I had to learn the maps and how to play etc well let me tell you when I compare cod4, w@w and now MW2 I notice something...

On cod4 once you got at a more skillful average point if you died it was because someone was BETTER than you, yeah I said it but that game definitely took more skill and let me tell you why and heres an example. Today I most likely said the word "camper" along with numerous curses in the same phrase around a bigullion times today, my mom doesn't even know what a "camper" is but she keeps asking, well heres the point... we ALL whine about campers(for the most part) because the majority of the people here @ NGU(or else, you know who you guys are) have been playing cod for years, well the new people probly think that "camping" stuff their doing is the shit, now more onto the main idea. The word camping could now be in the dictionary as I am sure it is used millions if not billions times a day world wide.... On cod4 and w@w I RARELY if ever yelled or complained about camping. Did it happen? Sure it did, rarely though as not every game you went in you were playing against a team of n00b campers.

My point on campers is yeah they suck, go play cod4 if you rage as I noticed while it may not be as fun with all the K/s and fancy shit but at least you can have a good time and not deal with a camper of some sort @ every corner. For the most part there is sadly nothing we can really do except whine, play private matches or deal with it.

So the next time we get mad, sing a song, it helps, sing a song about that camper instead of screaming.. "GET THE FCUK OUT YOU DAMN CAMPERS" I suggest sticky Ricky's thread, may give you some ideas.

On the next order of agenda, 'everything op'd, n00b made, "glitched" and beyond....

Lets all agree that the n00b tube has its name for a reason, sure we have to admit it is sorta nooby but I then again use it from time to time as well. Why? Because its fun and its satisfying to get those across the map multi winning kills. Why we do we complain? Really honestly YOU tell me as I am confused why we do as couldn't any good weapon per say the UMP45 be considered "noob a fied" ? Really any person can call that or this nooby, really all it is a playing style.

What is the difference between getting killed across the map by a sniper than getting killed across the map with a noob tube? You tell me. Same thing, only difference is we complain about one and not the other, why is it? idk.

Now onto everything else that helps people be noobs, Ill continue now with painkiller, simply to say that it does quite frankly piss compared to juggernaut(only made the difference of ONE bullet most of the time to get a kill, that red cross meant so much?) Which btw I am sure if it did NOT display the red cross when someone was using Juggernaut on cod4/w@w we WOULDN'T complain, as our brains wouldn't notice, is only a symbol when you hit somebody dude. Ill admit painkiller is a biatch, well if they got it they have to be what we call unskilled, to parse it more politely as I know many of the death streaks cater to noobs but we have to face the fact, avoid a "painkiller" and you'll be good off if possible.

Models etc, their fixed but even with the duel/FMJ a damn ACR will gun them down before they get you, also the whole knifing style of game play is basically going to be nerfed so I wont bother with that.

The next thing on my agenda is spawns, we have to complain here, getting spawned killed MANY times causes MANY rages, you cant say much but we have to stand up and tell IW they need to be fixed.

Well I guess that's it for now, just realize we HAVE to remain calm throughout all of this and I notice for some of us its too controversial which idk how it is so we have to grow up and be big boys as its not our falt, we need to take a common ground and view point on this. And one last thing I noticed that playing styles that OG players once used no longer work espically mine, I think your better off reading a guide "how to camp: a noobs perspective" or "Cod MW2: Owning your first cod game" rather than "How to obtain a Nuke" that's really what our world is becoming to, no one knows how to do anything now.

What one thinks is "legit" might be unfair or n00b to another, how like I asked above? Idk, but lets at least vent(properly) and get what the truth of this is.

Well thanks for reading and hopefully you have your very own opinion to share, and yes I think I have noticed via the search button that this isn't the first rant, but instead one of the first to put some effort into a rant and be positive and keep a good attitude towards it.

I would enjoy it tremendously if you took the time to read all of this and give your own thought, something out of the box instead of whining. Trust me, it will get better they need to fill in what was lost from the actual HUGE hype, make the game how we THOUGHT it was going to be, possibly fixing almost everything?

Good day,

~bmxdude9
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Dub Zee, rjive
01-18-2010, 03:47 AM #2
Dub Zee
SE Londons Finest
got a quarter of the way through it but im going sleep its like nearlly 4am so i'l read the rest of it tomoz, night mate
01-18-2010, 04:51 AM #3
bmxdude9
Million Miles Of Fun!
Originally posted by La.
got a quarter of the way through it but im going sleep its like nearlly 4am so i'l read the rest of it tomoz, night mate


okay yeah Ill admit its sorta long.
01-18-2010, 05:03 AM #4
Originally posted by bmxdude9 View Post
Lets all agree that the n00b tube has its name for a reason, sure we have to admit it is sorta nooby but I then again use it from time to time as well. Why? Because its fun and its satisfying to get those across the map multi winning kills. Why we do we complain? Really honestly YOU tell me as I am confused why we do as couldn't any good weapon per say the UMP45 be considered "noob a fied" ? Really any person can call that or this nooby, really all it is a playing style.


No it's not it's nooby. It's for people who can't use a gun that are only good enough to tap R1 aiming anywhere near an enemy to get a kill.
It ruins the game for people on the receiving end of it, which is why it earns it's 'noob' title alongside Juggernaut, Last Stand etc.
01-18-2010, 06:04 AM #5
xxSilentxKiller
Bounty hunter
Originally posted by another user
What is the difference between getting killed across the map by a sniper than getting killed across the map with a noob tube? You tell me. Same thing, only difference is we complain about one and not the other, why is it? idk.


The difference? The difference is that a guy can spin around quickly, fire a noob tube and kill you after you put half a ACR clip into his back. Now, if someone turned around and no-scoped me? I'd be like, that's cool. But when I get noob-tubed, I flip I shit for the simple reason that it doesn't require any skill.

Besides that, I agree with most of your post. The maps, the guns (aka, assault rifles) and a few other things are all conducive to camping. As such, a lot of first time cod players simply don't know that camping is a bitch thing to do and are happy going 6-2 in TDM game.
01-18-2010, 11:36 AM #6
kleszyk
Big Daddy
I think EVERYONE forgets that these "noob tubes" were in ****ing cod4!
so why the **** did it get crowned a noob weapon when it just a grenade launcher in cod4?

lol anyway has anyone notest CoD gives you a heavy case of tourettes?
01-18-2010, 11:56 AM #7
Dub Zee
SE Londons Finest
ok i read it all now, good post btw bmx

i dont understand why people are complaining about noobtubes, after all they were a much bigger problem in waw, when the whole Pro pipe vs noobtube arguments were going on, yet no one has mentioned that, its the same principle, so i cant see why people are bringing it up like its a new problem

just thought about the going back to previous cods, i recently went back to cod4 and waw, and frankly they are a joke, i got a 30-0 win on my first ffa on cod4 with no effort at all, and waw was a joke too, noobtubes and nades everytime i moved and just as many campers

yes, mw2 is seriously flawed, and if Robert bowlhead keeps nerfing things that dont need to be sorted out and leaving the real probs there, then mw2 is going to turn out as crap as previous games
01-18-2010, 12:25 PM #8
kleszyk
Big Daddy
Originally posted by La.
yes, mw2 is seriously flawed, and if Robert bowlhead keeps nerfing things that dont need to be sorted out and leaving the real probs there, then mw2 is going to turn out as crap as previous games


so true lol
i mean how long will it take to patch the care package markers when they could be patching the spawning system or all the other serious problems within the game
01-18-2010, 12:55 PM #9
ashbash
Space Ninja
n00btubes are n00by because there is very little skill, if you get an across the map tube kill then all credit to you, thats skillful but 95% of the time someone is running around in the open with the n00btube equipped, and as soon as you hit them they fire and theres nothing you can do, doesn't matter if you see them or hit them 1st because that n00btube will kill you.
its annoying because you know your 50x better than the player that just killed you, and you know you'd have been alive if they had any other gun, they hardly need to aim, anything in the direction of you and your dead.

painkiller is 10x as bad as jugganaut, if you've tested it you know it increases health by 3 times, it takes 3 headshots to kill someone who has painkiller, with the barret 50cal. thats ridiculous, and it doesn't matter where you hit them.
with jugg you could hit them in upper chest and still kill in 1, painkiller is 3 sniper bullets minimum its a joke and ruins the game. you have to put 3x as many bullets into them to kill, obviously in a 1v1 situation your screwed.

camping is a stupid argument too, the fact is the average guy buys this game and plays how they like, they couldn't care less if it upsets anyone else.
yes sitting in a corner is a very cheap tactic, but it is a tactic and a valid one. you should never die twice because you simply check the corners next time, or throw a nade.
camping in a building looking out of windows is 100% fine, its strategic positioning, your in cover, claymore watching your back and your shooting people who are running around, if they want to kill you, a nade will do the trick.

its total retards that complain about campers, despite the fact they havn't moved all game, 1 nade and they would be dead, but alot of thick people can't work that out.
01-18-2010, 12:57 PM #10
Dylan_Owns
Master of teh internetz
The main problem with the noobtube is it's explosive range, used with Danger Close it can kill you if they hit the wall 10 metres behind you. With OMA or Scavenger, it's worse. Unlimited OHKO's and your only chance to kill them is to get within 5 feet of them, allowing them to knife you while you empty an entire mag into them, only to have them survive due to painkiller?

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