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Ok so here is my shi no numa strategy. follow the mystery box around until around rounds 15-18 cuz hopefully by then u will have ray guns, brownings, mgs, etc. ok so now you have two places to go, the comm room or the doc quarters. here are the two reasons. the comm room has two windows and lots of space. the doc quarters has medium room, but is especially good for dogs. at the comm room two people camp in the right corner (looking from when u walk in) and the other two at windows. the guy at the window by electro shock must always keep an eye on the switch and pull it whenever its green so you guys can catch your breath/save ammo. now usually once we get dogs in the comm room, we will stay there for three more rounds after the dogs. after three rounds pass since dogs, we move to the doc quarters. there is as good as the comm room, but less space to fall back. once we get dogs here, we move to the back room and just spray the ray guns through the door. no dogs will get it. after that we run to the comm room and stay for three rounds then back to docquarters. SO BASICALLY ROUND 15-18 STAY IN COMM. 18 IS DOGS. 19-21 STAY IN COMM. 22-DOGS STAY IN DQ. DOGS PLUS 3 ROUNDS STAY IN COMM. SO ON. here are some quick tips. when in doc quarters and comm room, put betties down for when u fall back. and also for any rounds when u get a nuke, go out and look for any power ups that may be floating around. so yeah we have gotten past 30 3 times in 5 times playing together. reply back your thoughts and how many rounds u made it to. thanx!