(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); It will be put into sections again to make it easier to read like previous threads of mine. I wont post photo's or vids, as they are all in my other post and threads if you need them


Remember i will edit more info to each one later on
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Videos
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Trailer (monkey bomb trailer)

Let start with my opinion for a start, this video was made before edits to the map were made, treyarch obviously tried to make it more complicated that it is now but failed doing so, this is proved as the type 99 were in the game, and so was the SODB (more on this later)

The voices were probably put into add cinematic effect to give a story how they got there, but proof is i havnt found all the voice samples arnt in the der riese we know or are they? so theres 2 options

1. it was made (the clock, blown out wall etc) for cinematic experiences
2. they were taken out in edits along with everything else

EDIT: in the trailer at 0:42 there is no arm on the switch, proving that the map HAS had edits


Tour of treyarch video

now you all should know by now what i think about this, i do say it enough after all lol. well im going to leave you with just something to think about

Remember when the first videos for map 3 came out? the developer diary's?

1st. Multiplayer
2nd. Der riese
3rd. (now think carefully) Tour Of Treyarch

On the 1st video it said 1 of 3 videos, 2 of 3 etc, we never got the 3rd one (that i can remember) so there for the tour of treyarch video was the third, and that means it was already filmed as its the 3rd one of 3. so if you think carefully that means the "no where close to finding them all" is referring to the easter eggs yet to be found in Der riese (as it was filmed before hand yet for some reason wasnt released till recently)


EDIT: Just to further back up the theory the tour of treyarch video was made before der riese was actually released, take a look at one of the boards "Edward is alive", now considering most of the community already speculated that Edward is Richtofen when the tour of treyarch vid was put on XBL, there isnt any real need to have it on the board and focus on it As such is there? this is just imo, i could be well off the mark, but its just something else to think about


NOTE: there is the OTHER trailer that everyone seems to have forgotten that DOESNT have the blown out wall (not sure about the clock) only 1 of the videos has the blown out wall
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Illuminated Clock

I have already done a thread on this but il do a simple version

On the trailer there are 3 outer rings with the middle 1 lit up

In the der riese we know there are only 2 outer rings, with no tubes or transparent rings, i also havnt found any hidden script with code or triggers to do with the Clock, and yes i have looked although not thoroughly

The dimensions are slightly off as well, if a lit up ring was there, it wouldn't line up with the video's clock

i dont know why it was taken out, maybe when the map was bigger it had sme importance, maybe it is an alternate der riese, or maybe treyarch will update it and fix everything that was taken out, who knows

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Textures
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i dont really need to say anything except ALL and i mean ALL developers leave unusable textures, items, and code not needed in the game in the final build. treyarch is definitely not an exception because of all the glitchs and mistakes that are and have already been in the game already, are you really that surprised something got left in?

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Guns
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were not taken out because of problems or anything else like that, people forget, the SODB was in EVERY SINGLE NZ MAP, so how could they have problems with a gun that's been in from the start? the code for the type 99 is in the files (see below for explanation)#

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Secret Area/ Now unplayable area's
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The reason why i mentioned the above first is for the simple fact, the only logical (IMO) reason for this is the fact they were wall weapons, in a now unusable area of the map. the aforementioned area is (what i came up with)is the area to the right of the hanging man in the courtyard

This area is the biggest area that could be playable (thats visible) and the only other area that could house another building or a kennel (My Idea)

The area is rendered differently from the zombie spawn area
There is a wall (that isnt aligned to the border skin) that DOES have a zombie barricade
There is a load of crap in the courtyard, yet why have a zombie barricade if there isnt a zombie spawn point over there? for the simple reason it USED to be playable
How did we USED to get there? (See below)

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Metal shutters
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The Shutters (Teleporter A and furnace room shutters) are the ONLY things other than the wooden planks that are animated

You can shoot through them
Your characters body can go through them

This give substantial evidence to support my theory of them use to be able to be opened and the area to the right of hanging man

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This is just a quick post, ill update later, got paper work to do, if you post il try to reply
Look at mine (when its fully done) and compare to Crop Circles post and keep and open mind before you think about it, you still think hes right after i completed my thread fully, then fair enough, im just giving people 2 sides of the same coin

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ok next edit before i have to get ready, these again are just my opinion, partly speculation, but no more or less than other peoples views

I did go back and read thoroughly Crop circles post's and noticed a few digs etc and im going to ignore them this time, as im trying to rise above it regardless of other members (Not aim at Crop circles) on this forum testing my tolerance

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What happened to der riese
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Well as said above i believe Der riese is dramatically different from what the original map was like, i say this because i think we have had a watered down version of the original map, due to time constraints (possibly given by Activision themselves) Treyarch had to make changes

The second possibility is however the most likely. as we all know treyarch had to release the update for map pack 3 before it was supposed to because of the hacks, this alone might have forced them to release map pack 3 before it was due to be

If this is the case certain things had to be cut out altogether as they didn't have time to fully test the map themselves, if there was something important to do with the clock (for example) they might not have had time to sort code, triggers and scripts etc to make der riese less glitchy (for all we know having it in might have caused more problems than treyarch could deal with due to time constraints)


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Crop circles Power switch (from cod.com)
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although i have never mentioned this, His idea on there being a second power switch isnt that far wrong

although his m1a1 power switch is wrong, its not completely far fetched

first off il talk about the mainframe = another power switch

ok, we know (using normal means of mine and other things people have tried it cannot be operated, however the wires do lead to the "Exit" teleporter, which is connected to the switch itself

if it was able to be activated (before edits) it is more than possible that it would invert the flow, allowing you to teleport from the mainframe itself (to another teleporter altogether possibly, who knows at this point)

however from the mp40 room, you cant see the switch (At least not by normal means to shoot it, so sync-porting has been ruled out completely

it is possible to shoot in from the blown out wall from the trailer (before edit) this would allow you to shoot it from a distance (providing there was an elevated walkway)

this alone is the only reason why i can think of why the wall would have seen blown out in the trailer

i dont know what crop circles thinks about this, he might be thinking something completely different



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Character quotes (All Of them from der riese)

Dempsey

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Nikolai

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Takeo

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Richtofen

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Samantha Quotes

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Maxis? / announcer quotes

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note: you might think the above links arnt relevant (in regards to character quotes) but they are, the quotes from the trailer are in their, but no one so far has had certain 1's in-game

also on a side note, i have heard samantha say "You lose...GAME OVER" 3 times in total since playing, but in her quotes i havnt found a file proving this

I have an inkling as to why and to how i got her to say "You lose...GAME OVER" but until i can confirm i wont post my opinions on this
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Der riese alternative Hidden dog round song

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXF2TM9v8iY"]YouTube - Der Riese - Hidden Dog Song[/ame]


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Something else for Crop circles

Ive done a quick search in the files for der riese, and searched all the scripts for specific words (in this case the word "Clock" i couldn't find anything anything to do with the clock, so i doubt it can be illuminated (Hence why i first said the clock was either changed during edits or it was put in for the trailer only)

i know you are also going through files etc so could you (if you get the chance) have a look for yourself to confirm if this is true or not, thanks

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Patches

* The sign for the hangar says Hangar instead of Automobile Garage.
* Thunder can now be heard.

This patch, however, has been reversed. You can tell because the Hangar sign has gone back to saying Automobile Garage. Why the patch was reversed is unknown.

Why change a simple sign? does it have something to do with mickey saints Glitch/ words that flashed up? who knows, just more to think about

IMO it seems stupid just to change a sign, it must have some relevance to gameplay in some way

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This section will cover In-game Script

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Note: My new data transfer kit hasnt come through still so il be using data other people have posted on various sites, however when i receive the cable i will go through my xbox der riese files and correct / modify anything that isnt accurate Also i know abit about coding, not everything, so if im wrong please tell me so it can be corrected please
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First of all im gonna be looking at this code, specifically all (General) area's wrote down, no extra area's that i can see/tell except "Loading Dock" as its on the same line as stairs & bridge, also what area is "Warehouse"?

// Outside East Door
add_adjacent_zone( "receiver_zone", "outside_east_zone", "enter_outside_east" );

// Outside West Door
add_adjacent_zone( "receiver_zone", "outside_west_zone", "enter_outside_west" );

// Wnuen building ground floor
add_adjacent_zone( "wnuen_zone", "outside_east_zone", "enter_wnuen_building" );

// Wnuen stairway
add_adjacent_zone( "wnuen_zone", "wnuen_bridge_zone", "enter_wnuen_loading_dock" );

// Warehouse bottom
add_adjacent_zone( "warehouse_bottom_zone", "outside_west_zone", "enter_warehouse_building" );

// Warehosue top
add_adjacent_zone( "warehouse_bottom_zone", "warehouse_top_zone", "enter_warehouse_second_floor" );
add_adjacent_zone( "warehouse_top_zone", "bridge_zone", "enter_warehouse_second_floor" );

// TP East
add_adjacent_zone( "tp_east_zone", "wnuen_zone", "enter_tp_east" );
flag_array[0] = "enter_tp_east";
flag_array[1] = "enter_wnuen_building";
add_adjacent_zone( "tp_east_zone", "outside_east_zone", flag_array, true );

// TP South
add_adjacent_zone( "tp_south_zone", "outside_south_zone", "enter_tp_south" );

// TP West
add_adjacent_zone( "tp_west_zone", "warehouse_top_zone", "enter_tp_west" );
flag_array[0] = "enter_tp_west";
flag_array[1] = "enter_warehouse_second_floor";
add_adjacent_zone( "tp_west_zone", "warehouse_bottom_zone", flag_array, true );

Ok, thanks dude

BTW, what coding history do you have?

not much mate, everything i know is all self taught through trail and error, learning more and more every day tho

Ok, pretty much like me.

But I meant, what languages do you know? And what do you mean by self taught? You meant on like php.net and started learning stuff from tutorials or did you download people's work and learned from there?

C#
Php
perl
and VB
are the 1's im doing atm mate

yeah its basically a mix of tuts and looking at other peoples work just to learn the basics (tutorials bore me really easily) so i try to jump straight in and see what i can do, then learn from there

im still only a noob but i gotta start somewhere i guess

Well, I started off with plain-old-school HTML 4 when I was 8/9. At about 10 I jumped to PHP. Before 11 I managed to get a custom CMS working w/ forum (its MySQL DB) integration. Then went to You must login or register to view this content. when I was about 13. I'm gonna turn 16 tomorrow and decided to go back to my "mother-tongue" PHP :-)

UnrealScript made me realize how coding was pretty dumb and retarded, all you need it to make a code work is common sense [and a lot of perseverance].

thats pretty sweet knowing that so young, im 25 n only just getting into it, when i was younger i did more game testing and making 3d animations etc so didnt have much time for programming unfortunately

most of it is common sense but i used to get bored very easily as a kid so kept moving on to different things on a daily basis, wish i had made the effort now tho mate, you'll go far if you keep it up, trust me