Post: Is Obama A Good president Or No???
05-12-2010, 05:21 PM #1
Saucy-_-
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Hey Guys ive seen alot of people on here making a post about obama being a good and bad President, So i was wondering what every one here thinks about it...

Please leave a comment on why you think hes bad or good...
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04-14-2011, 10:26 PM #353
Just4Hax
"I will speak ill of
Originally posted by Ropponen View Post
Ok, have a shitty and expensive health care system that helps no one, that isn't my problem, I'm glad that I don't live in country where almost every public system is claimed to be socialism.

And I ****ing LMAO at those STUPID people that think it's communism.
In a long term, not giving any money to social security is only bad, because people will become criminals when they don't have any money.

May I ask you something, do you stand for Welfare state/society? And why/why not?

First off they say Obama is socializing the US as he is solely attempting to raise taxes on the wealthy, who already have a tax rate around 50% or more. Opposes to cutting the budget and ending programs he plans on extending them.

Not every becomes a criminal once they are bankrupt. People have the freedom to make the decision of what they wish to do with their money. If anything financial education should be a part of the school system.

By welfare, if you are speaking of a socialist society (I could be misunderstanding you), I say no. Socialism never and will never work. Why would I work as hard as the next guy if we both will have the same pay and benefits. Great concept, but it fails. More importantly it takes out the ability to enjoy luxuries as much. I prefer a capitalist society.

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Originally posted by x
Better than Bush.

Why exactly?
04-15-2011, 08:46 AM #354
Originally posted by Just4Hax View Post
First off they say Obama is socializing the US as he is solely attempting to raise taxes on the wealthy, who already have a tax rate around 50% or more. Opposes to cutting the budget and ending programs he plans on extending them.

Not every becomes a criminal once they are bankrupt. People have the freedom to make the decision of what they wish to do with their money. If anything financial education should be a part of the school system.

By welfare, if you are speaking of a socialist society (I could be misunderstanding you), I say no. Socialism never and will never work. Why would I work as hard as the next guy if we both will have the same pay and benefits. Great concept, but it fails. More importantly it takes out the ability to enjoy luxuries as much. I prefer a capitalist society.

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Why exactly?


It isn't socialism, or do you see that Nordic Countries have socialism? No.

Obama is better than Bush, because Bush started unnecessary war, spent too much money on military and because of him, many people on Middle-East hate America and see it as "Great Satan"

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04-15-2011, 10:23 AM #355
Originally posted by Ropponen View Post
It isn't socialism, or do you see that Nordic Countries have socialism? No.

Obama is better than Bush, because Bush started unnecessary war, spent too much money on military and because of him, many people on Middle-East hate America and see it as "Great Satan"


Thanks for telling him why Obama is better than Bush. I didn't have to bother myself. Smile
04-15-2011, 11:05 PM #356
Just4Hax
"I will speak ill of
Originally posted by Ropponen View Post
It isn't socialism, or do you see that Nordic Countries have socialism? No.

Obama is better than Bush, because Bush started unnecessary war, spent too much money on military and because of him, many people on Middle-East hate America and see it as "Great Satan"

Where do you get your news?

Anyways, Obamacare is a failure and goes against the constitution. Obama's goal is to make the wealthy pay for everything, even though their tax rate is over 50% (Great deal right). He will not cut any programs and did not follow through anything he stated he would do in his campaign.

Give me one successful thing Obama has done.

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Originally posted by xXModdzXx View Post
Hes Ok And Because He Got Ppl Health Care

I'm guessing you don't live in America. Am I correct?

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Originally posted by x
Thanks for telling him why Obama is better than Bush. I didn't have to bother myself. Smile

What would you of told me?
04-16-2011, 11:55 AM #357
Originally posted by Just4Hax View Post
Where do you get your news?

Anyways, Obamacare is a failure and goes against the constitution. Obama's goal is to make the wealthy pay for everything, even though their tax rate is over 50% (Great deal right). He will not cut any programs and did not follow through anything he stated he would do in his campaign.

Give me one successful thing Obama has done.

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I'm guessing you don't live in America. Am I correct?

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What would you of told me?


He promised to cut programs, where YOU get YOUR news.

For example:
- Obama started evacuate soldiers off Iraq.
- US image is much better than it was on when Bush was president.
- He cares more about environment than Bush.

There's much more, too lazy to write :p
04-16-2011, 03:28 PM #358
Just4Hax
"I will speak ill of
Originally posted by Ropponen View Post
He promised to cut programs, where YOU get YOUR news.

He didn't thats the point. I get my news from yahoo, AOL, MSN, Fox, and sometimes ABC. Now where do you get yours?

Originally posted by another user
For example:
- Obama started evacuate soldiers off Iraq.
- US image is much better than it was on when Bush was president.
- He cares more about environment than Bush.

He hasn't left Iraq yet as he stated he would. Why? Because that was a political move when in reality there was no way we would be prepared to leave that early in.

How is the US Image better? He changes his mind constantly. He decides to no do anything with Egypt until the very end, and is find with going into Libya almost immediately. Environment? Give me 5 facts for what he has done for the Environment.

I have a feeling you watch only liberal news, but I could be wrong.

Originally posted by another user
There's much more, too lazy to write

Go ahead write it. I will for what I think.

- He blames Republicans for every little thing that goes wrong.
- He passed an unconstitutional and inefficient healthcare bill.
- He hasn't done anything he promised in his campaign.
- He won't cut any program even though the budget is at 4 trillion per year.
- He will tax the wealthy some more to pay for those programs, even though they already pay over 50% tax rate.
- He has increased the debt even further by trillions.
- He has passed an inefficient stimulus everyone seems to forgets about.
- He loves to expand government and kick the private sector in the shin.

Shall I go on?
04-16-2011, 03:36 PM #359
Originally posted by Just4Hax View Post
He didn't thats the point. I get my news from yahoo, AOL, MSN, Fox, and sometimes ABC. Now where do you get yours?


He hasn't left Iraq yet as he stated he would. Why? Because that was a political move when in reality there was no way we would be prepared to leave that early in.

How is the US Image better? He changes his mind constantly. He decides to no do anything with Egypt until the very end, and is find with going into Libya almost immediately. Environment? Give me 5 facts for what he has done for the Environment.

I have a feeling you watch only liberal news, but I could be wrong.


Fox is best news source, right? /facepalm

He hasn't left Iraq, because you need forces to prevent terrorist attacks, and Iraq government doesn't have enough forces to do that.

It's (image) better, you think it was better when Bush was president? Hell no.

Well, Bush didn't give a **** about environment, so he cares more.

I've feeling that you only watch shitty conservative news *cough* fox. And I watch The Finnish Broadcasting Company, it's like BBC.

He isn't the best president US has had, but definitely better than Bush.
04-16-2011, 04:00 PM #360
Just4Hax
"I will speak ill of
Originally posted by Ropponen View Post
Fox is best news source, right? /facepalm

The point is I watch and read multiple news sources. I have ever seen. Also, you still haven't told me what network you use.

Originally posted by another user
He hasn't left Iraq, because you need forces to prevent terrorist attacks, and Iraq government doesn't have enough forces to do that.

Exactly. But he made the promise he would.

Originally posted by another user
Well, Bush didn't give a **** about environment, so he cares more.

That is a horrible statement. You gave me no reason he cares more about the environment in anyway.

Originally posted by another user
I've feeling that you only watch shitty conservative news *cough* fox. And I watch The Finnish Broadcasting Company, it's like BBC.

Way to bag on the only real conservative network. Fox isn't as bad as it seems. Yes it has some shows that are bad, but it has plenty of shows that are as hardcore republican, unlike MSNBC. Also, are you saying your against conservatives?

If someone who knows the FBC clarify to me if its liberal that would be great.

Originally posted by another user
He isn't the best president US has had, but definitely better than Bush.

Funny how you still haven't written anything on how he is better yet I wrote this

Originally posted by another user
Go ahead write it. I will for what I think.

- He blames Republicans for every little thing that goes wrong.
- He passed an unconstitutional and inefficient healthcare bill.
- He hasn't done anything he promised in his campaign.
- He won't cut any program even though the budget is at 4 trillion per year.
- He will tax the wealthy some more to pay for those programs, even though they already pay over 50% tax rate.
- He has increased the debt even further by trillions.
- He has passed an inefficient stimulus everyone seems to forgets about.
- He loves to expand government and kick the private sector in the shin.

Shall I go on?

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04-16-2011, 04:31 PM #361
Originally posted by Just4Hax View Post
The point is I watch and read multiple news sources. I have ever seen. Also, you still haven't told me what network you use.


Exactly. But he made the promise he would.


That is a horrible statement. You gave me no reason he cares more about the environment in anyway.


Way to bag on the only real conservative network. Fox isn't as bad as it seems. Yes it has some shows that are bad, but it has plenty of shows that are as hardcore republican, unlike MSNBC. Also, are you saying your against conservatives?

If someone who knows the FBC clarify to me if its liberal that would be great.


Funny how you still haven't written anything on how he is better yet I wrote this


It's YLE, not FBC lol.
And it's public-broadcasting organization. So it's kinda neutral.

Forces will be out off Iraq in 2011. (Or if you don't believe diplomat, that was telling about my high school, don''t believe it)

Obama has made some environmental acts, just use google.

I'm not against conservatives, I'm against extreme conservatives.

I already posted why he's better than Bush, but looks like you don't remember it anymore. (Yesterday, so you don't have good memory)

Originally posted by another user

- He blames Republicans for every little thing that goes wrong.
- He passed an unconstitutional and inefficient healthcare bill.
- He hasn't done anything he promised in his campaign.
- He won't cut any program even though the budget is at 4 trillion per year.
- He will tax the wealthy some more to pay for those programs, even though they already pay over 50% tax rate.
- He has increased the debt even further by trillions.
- He has passed an inefficient stimulus everyone seems to forgets about.
- He loves to expand government and kick the private sector in the shin.


- And republicans blame him for every little thing
- Every thing starts with steps, you can't have better and useful system ASAP, you've to make investments.
- He have done something:
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- He also cut some programs, read You must login or register to view this content., and he started his program, to cut 5billion in next 15 years, and you're whining that he isn't doing anything? Unbelievable and contradictory if you ask me.
- Wealthy people have enough money to pay, where you got that "over 50%"
- I think you mean heath care investments? I said before, why he did that. You've to make investments.
- I don't know what you mean by here.
- It's better that it's more public, people get more egalitarian treatment in health centers, basically situation is that public sector sucks and only poor go there, and those who have enough money go to private sector, that just isn't right IMO.

It's funny when you try to defend Bush.

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