Post: The Wrestling (WWE & TNA) and UFC Discussion thread
07-15-2010, 08:00 PM #1
Goldberg1
Vault dweller
(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); I doubt I'm the only wrestling and MMA fan so this is a nice thread where you can discuss all happenings within the world of wrestling and the world of MMA (mainly UFC or Strikeforce).

I am a huge wrestling and MMA fan. I've been watching WWE since 1996 along with WCW and ECW (since the beginning of the Monday Night Wars) and I've been watching UFC since the very first show (1993) I still watch all of them (except WCW and ECW of course), looking forward to Money In The Bank and UFC 117. Also started watching TNA Wrestling in 2002 from it's debut and I've continue to follow it on a weekly basis along with WWE.

So discuss upcoming shows here in this thread! Smile
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07-31-2010, 06:53 PM #47
Goldberg1
Vault dweller
Originally posted by CracK3r View Post
You know, i really miss the old days of WWE. Back when Stone Cold and the Rock were there, Masked Kane, and all the others. I mean i still watch WWE yeah, im only 16 and i used to watch it back when WWF was here, but not as much as i do now, and i regret it. WWF was the shit. There was blood, cursing, and just all out entertainment. WWE is falling right now because most of the big dogs are going over to TNA( Which really pisses me off because TNA really blows)


I miss the Attitude Era too, everyone misses it. TNA doesn't blow that much if you only look at the wrestling aspect instead of the entertainment aspect (like ROH)


Originally posted by CracK3r View Post
And the PG rating. The PG rating is killing the WWE. Its just not entertaining to see the same crap over and over again every single week.


To be honest, I don't see the WWE stopping with PG anytime soon. It's not killing them, it's reinventing them. They are making more merchandise sales then ever before (because of HHH, Cena, Rey, Undertaker). I do agree we get the same stuff every single week.

Originally posted by CracK3r View Post
Thats why i love the nexus invasion, its like the old WCW. And yeah, i like John Cena, i love it when he wins. And the Nexus need to lose at SummerSlam. I also heard that HHH was supposed to be returning this SummerSlam, not 100% sure but thats what ive been hearing.


Yep, Nexus storyline is cool. Reminds me of WCW too but WCW handled the NWO invasion way better, that was pure genius. Nexus is usually made looking weak, while NWO was stronger then anybody (which was the best and the worst thing about the NWO, in the end that <<< killed WCW)
Also HHH tore a muscle in his arm again I think so he won't be ready to return untill around December.


Originally posted by CracK3r View Post
I think the WWE needs to go back to the attitude era, because this PG crap is bullshit. And also one other thing, RAW>Smackdown, i used to watch both but RAW is where its at. Smackdown has no entertainment and no good superstars what so ever, besides Kane, which really sucks he needs to come back to RAW. And dont even get me started with Superstars, it is pointless and NXT also sucks. But atleast NXT actually has a point. Thats all i have to say.


Hm, I think SD! is great too. It usually has much better wrestling. Also what about the other superstars on SD! besides Kane? CM Punk? Dashing (lol) Cody Rhodes? Kofi Kingston? Big Show? Superstars is fun because you get to see wrestlers you hardly see on PPV or tv. NXT is decent but Tough Enough owns it in every way..

EDIT: I hope you didn't just got 4 PM's from the forum because of me quoting you. If you did sorry, the PM on quote thing is good in some occasions but it can also be a pain lol.

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07-31-2010, 07:03 PM #48
CracK3r
Bad to the bone.
Originally posted by Goldberg View Post
I miss the Attitude Era too, everyone misses it. TNA doesn't blow that much if you only look at the wrestling aspect instead of the entertainment aspect (like ROH)




To be honest, I don't see the WWE stopping with PG anytime soon. It's not killing them, it's reinventing them. They are making more merchandise sales then ever before (because of HHH, Cena, Rey, Undertaker). I do agree we get the same stuff every single week.



Yep, Nexus storyline is cool. Reminds me of WCW too but WCW handled the NWO invasion way better, that was pure genius. Nexus is usually made looking weak, while NWO was stronger then anybody (which was the best and the worst thing about the NWO, in the end that <<< killed WCW)
Also HHH tore a muscle in his arm again I think so he won't be ready to return untill around December.




Hm, I think SD! is great too. It usually has much better wrestling. Also what about the other superstars on SD! besides Kane? CM Punk? Dashing (lol) Cody Rhodes? Kofi Kingston? Big Show? Superstars is fun because you get to see wrestlers you hardly see on PPV or tv. NXT is decent but Tough Enough owns it in every way..

EDIT: I hope you didn't just got 4 PM's from the forum because of me quoting you. If you did sorry, the PM on quote thing is good in some occasions but it can also be a pain lol.


Yeah tough enough was great. And yeah your right about the smackdown superstars, personally i think it should just be one show Happy everyone on RAW. the will probably never happen but thatd be good.

And also the PG rating sucks, because John cena is a fan favorite, all the little kids you know look up to him and what not, that is actually blocking Cena from doing some stuff. Then Nexus is pulling out the inner Cena which is great, because before the Nexus Cena was just all about the fans, he never showed any aggression. And he like cant be turned into a heel because of the fans he has. Which is my opinion SUCKS.

And about HHH that really sucks i wanted him back.
And the PG rating would be in danger if TNA started to catch up with WWE. Right now WWE is in first, but if TNA becomes a threat i have no doubt that WWE will do what ever it takes to stop that from happening.
And no i only got one quote notification lol
07-31-2010, 07:18 PM #49
Goldberg1
Vault dweller
Originally posted by CracK3r View Post
Yeah tough enough was great. And yeah your right about the smackdown superstars, personally i think it should just be one show Happy everyone on RAW. the will probably never happen but thatd be good.

And also the PG rating sucks, because John cena is a fan favorite, all the little kids you know look up to him and what not, that is actually blocking Cena from doing some stuff. Then Nexus is pulling out the inner Cena which is great, because before the Nexus Cena was just all about the fans, he never showed any aggression. And he like cant be turned into a heel because of the fans he has. Which is my opinion SUCKS.

And about HHH that really sucks i wanted him back.
And the PG rating would be in danger if TNA started to catch up with WWE. Right now WWE is in first, but if TNA becomes a threat i have no doubt that WWE will do what ever it takes to stop that from happening.
And no i only got one quote notification lol


Everyone on Raw would be bad for alot of superstars tough. People like say Santino, Regal, Kozlov, Ryder, Tatsy and maybe Ziggler would hardly get any airtime which would be a shame..

And yes, PG is blocking Cena from progressing his character and his move-set. But about his moves, look at it from WWE's perspective, would you make your most valuable, most money making superstar do moves in which he can injure himself (like jumping over the ropes to the outside or a 460 splash/moonsault - I'm pretty sure Cena can do a 450, I think I saw him do it once) I wouldn't do it. The heck if he's boring in the ring, kids love him he's making uncle Vince lots of money, lets keep it that way! That's WWE's perspective..

TNA actually has been getting better ratings lately. They have been getting atleast a 1.0 rating for several weeks straight now (which beats Superstars and Raw AM, SD! usually does around 2.3). If TNA can build on this and eventually beat SD! in the ratings we'll get better WWE tv, I can assure you that. Why don't we get good tv now? WWE is on a monopoly, you either watch well-known WWE or you dont watch wrestling at all (or you watch indy's on your PC). WWE doesn't have a threat, they can also have 1 of 2 hours being full of backstage segments (which WCW did once) and still beat TNA in the ratings. So even if you don't like TNA I'd help their ratings anyway if you want better WWE tv. Smile
07-31-2010, 07:21 PM #50
CracK3r
Bad to the bone.
Originally posted by Goldberg View Post
Everyone on Raw would be bad for alot of superstars tough. People like say Santino, Regal, Kozlov, Ryder, Tatsy and maybe Ziggler would hardly get any airtime which would be a shame..

And yes, PG is blocking Cena from progressing his character and his move-set. But about his moves, look at it from WWE's perspective, would you make your most valuable, most money making superstar do moves in which he can injure himself (like jumping over the ropes to the outside or a 460 splash/moonsault - I'm pretty sure Cena can do a 450, I think I saw him do it once) I wouldn't do it. The heck if he's boring in the ring, kids love him he's making uncle Vince lots of money, lets keep it that way! That's WWE's perspective..

TNA actually has been getting better ratings lately. They have been getting atleast a 1.0 rating for several weeks straight now (which beats Superstars and Raw AM, SD! usually does around 2.3). If TNA can build on this and eventually beat SD! in the ratings we'll get better WWE tv, I can assure you that. Why don't we get good tv now? WWE is on a monopoly, you either watch well-known WWE or you dont watch wrestling at all (or you watch indy's on your PC). WWE doesn't have a threat, they can also have 1 of 2 hours being full of backstage segments (which WCW did once) and still beat TNA in the ratings. So even if you don't like TNA I'd help their ratings anyway if you want better WWE tv. Smile


Yeah i fully agree, well said.
07-31-2010, 08:17 PM #51
Goldberg1
Vault dweller
Thanks. I've been watching wrestling for a long time now so I sure hope I know a fair amount about it lol.
08-01-2010, 01:21 AM #52
Originally posted by Naruto
I know WWE is fake but I freaken love the story and the amazing risky moves they make! I love WWE!


I love it aswell.. Im starting to like Sheamus, but at the same time I hate him.
08-01-2010, 03:39 AM #53
CracK3r
Bad to the bone.
Originally posted by Goldberg View Post
Thanks. I've been watching wrestling for a long time now so I sure hope I know a fair amount about it lol.


Yeah, i used to watch it VERY little back in WWF. And since WWE i think i started watching....back when eric bishoff was the GM of RAW. I think thats about right.
08-01-2010, 08:52 AM #54
Goldberg1
Vault dweller
I've been watching it all the way back to about 1995 or 1996 (that I can remember) I watched the very first Nitro live for example. Smile
08-02-2010, 09:37 PM #55
hanchanfoooo
Do a barrel roll!
WWE is just men trying to touch each other up which is wrong but the divas are fit

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