Post: Mathematical Proof that 0.999...=1
10-16-2010, 03:40 AM #1
elfmotat
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(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); I will prove that 1=0.999999... This one IS NOT a troll (no sneaky tricks like the last one i.e. dividing by zero).

The Fractions Proof

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One third is equal to 0.33333...

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Three times one third is equal to 1:

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Three times 0.33333... is equal to 0.999999...

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Therefore 1=0.999999...

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The Infinite Series Proof

A number with a repeating decimal can be represented as a sum of an infinite series:

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The formula to find the value of an infinite series where |r|<1 is as follows:

S is the sum, t1 is the first term in the series, and r is the rate.

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Therefore:

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The Algebraic Proof

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Multiply both sides by 10 (remember that when you multiply by ten it shifts the decimal place to the right by one place):

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Subtract x=0.9999... from both sides:

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Simplify:

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Divide by 9:

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The Midpoint Proof

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What is the midpoint (average) between a and b? The formula to find m where m is the midpoint is:

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Using the values for a and b:

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You can use long division to divide 1.9999... by 2 to get m=0.99999...

Since the midpoint between the two points IS one of the two points, the two points MUST be equal. If you are unconvinced that this is true, you could say from the information that:

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Multiply both sides by two:

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Subtract b from both sides:

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Simplify:

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Substituting numerical values:

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10-16-2010, 01:37 PM #20
Fionn
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Originally posted by MATT23116 View Post
Maybe he knows that he's not smart, but he just thinks that if he repeats it, it will somehow make him smart.


Haha Main word being somehow.
10-16-2010, 01:51 PM #21
iRoBoSauR-X
You talkin to me?
You aren't telling us anything new. 0.999... equalling 1 is taught in textbooks.
10-16-2010, 01:58 PM #22
xFutterr
Wolves are superior.
I see how it works, but i still disagree. 0.99999... = 0.99999...
..... Sorry, i guess its just a matter of opinion. :/
10-16-2010, 02:06 PM #23
iRoBoSauR-X
You talkin to me?
Originally posted by xFutterr View Post
I see how it works, but i still disagree. 0.99999... = 0.99999...
..... Sorry, i guess its just a matter of opinion. :/


Your right. It is what it is but it is just shy of 1, not exactly one.
10-16-2010, 04:00 PM #24
Originally posted by elfmotat View Post
I will prove that 1=0.999999... This one IS NOT a troll (no sneaky tricks like the last one i.e. dividing by zero).

The Fractions Proof

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One third is equal to 0.33333...

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Three times one third is equal to 1:

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Three times 0.33333... is equal to 0.999999...

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Therefore 1=0.999999...

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The Infinite Series Proof

A number with a repeating decimal can be represented as a sum of an infinite series:

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The formula to find the value of an infinite series where |r|<1 is as follows:

S is the sum, t1 is the first term in the series, and r is the rate.

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Therefore:

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The Algebraic Proof

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Multiply both sides by 10 (remember that when you multiply by ten it shifts the decimal place to the right by one place):

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Subtract x=0.9999... from both sides:

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Simplify:

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Divide by 9:

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The Midpoint Proof

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What is the midpoint (average) between a and b? The formula to find m where m is the midpoint is:

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Using the values for a and b:

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You can use long division to divide 1.9999... by 2 to get m=0.99999...

Since the midpoint between the two points IS one of the two points, the two points MUST be equal. If you are unconvinced that this is true, you could say from the information that:

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Multiply both sides by two:

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Subtract b from both sides:

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Simplify:

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Substituting numerical values:

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You are right, 0.9999999999 = 1

But this isn't denied or anything. Go to your calculator and type 0.9999999999 then press = , the result will be 1.

Same to any number , I.E 9.999999999= 10.

Let's say 9.9 = 99 over 100 so when the decimal increases 99 will be approximated to 100 so it will be 100 over 10 so a zero will be cancel so it's equal 10.
10-16-2010, 04:20 PM #25
SuperYuper
Vault dweller
Originally posted by Fionn View Post
Why do you keep saying your smart?
You seem to be pretty cocky.

Because(I'm smart) Dopey said if you use a conjunction at the beginning of a sentence, it makes you smart.
10-16-2010, 04:25 PM #26
Originally posted by xFutterr View Post
I see how it works, but i still disagree. 0.99999... = 0.99999...
..... Sorry, i guess its just a matter of opinion. :/


Sorry but how is math an OPINION?
10-16-2010, 04:36 PM #27
elfmotat
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Originally posted by SuperYuper View Post
They aren't "arbitrary claims", they are fact. And(I'm smart) I was just asking what your occupation was because you seem to be very interested in math. And(I'm smart) where did I post in your last thread?
... seriously.


1. Yes they are arbitrary claims. You claim that decimals aren't accurate. That doesn't make any sense - decimals are just as accurate as we make them. It's like saying that integers aren't completely accurate - it just makes no contextual sense.

2. In my previous thread, you said: "'a' and 'b' both can't equal 1"

I responded sarcastically, saying that you should win the Fields Medal.

Originally posted by SuperYuper View Post
Because(I'm smart) Dopey said if you use a conjunction at the beginning of a sentence, it makes you smart.


"Because" isn't a conjunction.

Originally posted by xFutterr View Post
I see how it works, but i still disagree. 0.99999... = 0.99999...
..... Sorry, i guess its just a matter of opinion. :/


It isn't opinion. I gave four different proofs that 1=0.99999...

It doesn't matter whether or not you agree, it is what it is.

Originally posted by X View Post
Your right. It is what it is but it is just shy of 1, not exactly one.


Incorrect, it is exactly =1. Think of it this way:

What is the difference between 1 and 0.99999... ? The difference is 0.00000000...1, with an infinite amount of zeros preceding the 1. Since there is an INFINITE amount of zeros, the 1 will never be added to the end.

Originally posted by Mr.Vaner View Post
You are right, 0.9999999999 = 1

But this isn't denied or anything. Go to your calculator and type 0.9999999999 then press = , the result will be 1.


That's because the calculator rounds the result. I'm showing that 0.9999... isn't APPROXIMATELY =1, it is EXACTLY =1.

Originally posted by Mr.Vaner View Post
Same to any number , I.E 9.999999999= 10.


Correct. Any number with infinitely repeating 9's in the decimal place will be equal to the integer preceding the decimal place +1.

Originally posted by Mr.Vaner View Post
Let's say 9.9 = 99 over 100 so when the decimal increases 99 will be approximated to 100 so it will be 100 over 10 so a zero will be cancel so it's equal 10.


I'm not doing any approximations. I'm showing that it is EXACTLY =1.
10-16-2010, 06:21 PM #28
G59
Banned
Learnt the algebra way today in Maths

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