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Arguing against evolution is extremely difficult. The Galapagos finches, natural selection from genetic defects. It makes sense, it fits together and there are no better theories available. Creationism? Oh please Adam and Eve? God created every animal perfectly? Then how come animals become extinct, have evidence of change?

Read further into the old testament then you will findout what happened



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what is your definiton of evolution?

"Biological evolution refers to the changes over time that occur in living organisms. Biological evolution is defined as descent with modification." Quote is not mine, however a good summary. The change occurs due to a genetic defect, which, may be of use to the animal.


As I said to you on another thread. Evolution and Natural selection occur hand in hand.

Should natural selection occur and not evolution, then entire species would be wiped out rather than a select group.

Should evolution occur then natural selection has to follow as food competitions arise those more suited towards survival in those climates will survive.

look at the fossil records A century and a half of fossil-collecting since Darwin, however, has made it clear that fossil species tend to appear suddenly and persist unchanged for long periods of time before going extinct. So this is in macroevolution which would not fit natural selection. So if the definition you got change over time then how is there unchange over time and then the fossil is extinct?

For Christ's sake! The reason they go extinct after a long time of no change makes absolute perfect sense with Darwin's theory. No genetic mutations -> no evolution, Competition for food arises, due to the lack of adaptation species now die.

with the definition of evolution you have given me it is impossible for something like fossils to show change over time. You are stuck in a microevolution viewpoint. Do you even study evolution? Even intermediate forms of species , however, fail to support Darwinian macroevolution, because fossils cannot demonstrate that transitions were due to random variation and natural selection

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Accept that the definition of evolution covers a MASSIVE TOPIC AREA. You are attempting to restrict me to one small one which you will try to beat me in. Fossils can help show variation and natural selection.

Oh look a fossil of a bird, its beak is long and thin, Oh look an identical bird with a stubby beak. These birds need to root in long grass to find bugs. The bird with the long thin beak, will survive better in a competition for food... how can we prove this. Hmmm lets carbon date some fossils and conduct a survey.

G-Hutch hit the nail on the head with this topic.

Evolution may not be 100% accurate but it has A LOT more backing up it than God or the Bible. The Bible has minimal truth to it, it makes absolutely no sense and is just stupid.

Evolution is easily the most accurate theory, creationism is stupidity as are most other theories on this topic.

haha thats funny because if natural selection was proven to be true then it would fit within microevolution and macroevolution it must stay constant. Whereas the Bible stays constant throughout.

The problem you guys have is how can God be so loving if there is evil in the world so you believe we have no purpose and we decide things so instead of taking blame for ourselves we like to blame God.