Post: Reincarnation: Believe or Not?
01-15-2011, 02:49 PM #1
Shepleklet
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Do you believe in reincarnation? Have you lived past lives, will you live again in the future? It's a controversial subject, but each side presents just as similarly compelling arguments.

Discuss, I'd be interested to hear your opinions!
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01-15-2011, 02:54 PM #2
I hope so i wanna come back as Katy Perrys underwear Smile
01-15-2011, 02:55 PM #3
de69
Banned
I don't know what to think about it, when I was little kid my parents told me that you'd go to Heaven if you let a good life... But the last 4-5 years I really doubt about this.
Science has become more important to people and has pushed religion(and church ) away.
01-15-2011, 03:48 PM #4
E0000B6FAF25838
Nikolai Reznov
I would say no. The only thing that I could imagine that would be close to reincarnation, is deja vu, which gives the impression that we repeat our lives. But either way I wouldn't really call it reincarnation, and even at that it doesn't make much sense.
01-15-2011, 04:08 PM #5
elfmotat
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The brain can be split down the Corpus Callosum (the bundle of nerves that connect the two hemispheres) such that two distinct personalities arise in the separate halves. Sometimes their core beliefs even differ - one half of the brain identifies as a theist whereas the other identifies as an atheist. Because of this, we must ask what it means to have a soul. Is the soul simply split in two in cases like this? Does a whole new soul suddenly appear to compensate? Which soul gets reincarnated? What happens to the one that doesn't?

This is unnecessary rhetoric of course. The simple answer is that there are no souls and no one is reincarnated.

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01-15-2011, 06:13 PM #6
Shepleklet
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Originally posted by elfmotat View Post
The brain can be split down the Corpus Callosum (the bundle of nerves that connect the two hemispheres) such that two distinct personalities arise in the separate halves. Sometimes their core beliefs even differ - one half of the brain identifies as a theist whereas the other identifies as an atheist. Because of this, we must ask what it means to have a soul. Is the soul simply split in two in cases like this? Does a whole new soul suddenly appear to compensate? Which soul gets reincarnated? What happens to the one that doesn't?

This is unnecessary rhetoric of course. The simple answer is that there are no souls and no one is reincarnated.


Reincarnation, albeit on a miniscule scale, is inevitable. We are all essentially made of celestial dust and parts of planets etc. When the Earth implodes (or more likely gets destroyed by human means) all our atoms and all particles that make us and everything else will be floating through space for countless years. Eventually, even if it takes quadrillions of years, the particles that make us up will form another life form, most probably a bacterium.

However, that's still technically reincarnation :p Even though it barely qualifies, I still agree with you. No, I don't believe in reincarnation, as it is thought of by the general populus, of your "soul" being in another human vessel and so living again.
01-15-2011, 06:49 PM #7
elfmotat
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Originally posted by Shepleklet View Post
Reincarnation, albeit on a miniscule scale, is inevitable. We are all essentially made of celestial dust and parts of planets etc. When the Earth implodes (or more likely gets destroyed by human means) all our atoms and all particles that make us and everything else will be floating through space for countless years. Eventually, even if it takes quadrillions of years, the particles that make us up will form another life form, most probably a bacterium.


This is:
1. Not reincarnation as commonly defined. You are applying your own meaning to the word, which isn't an argument.
2. Not likely. The universe will not last forever, and the likelihood that the matter in our bodies will one day exist in an extraterrestrial life form before the end is so absurdly small that it's essentially zero.

Originally posted by Shepleklet View Post
However, that's still technically reincarnation :p Even though it barely qualifies, I still agree with you.


I disagree. If there isn't some consensus on the definition of the term, then this is a pointless argument.

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01-15-2011, 10:25 PM #8
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Originally posted by elfmotat View Post
The brain can be split down the Corpus Callosum (the bundle of nerves that connect the two hemispheres) such that two distinct personalities arise in the separate halves. Sometimes their core beliefs even differ - one half of the brain identifies as a theist whereas the other identifies as an atheist. Because of this, we must ask what it means to have a soul. Is the soul simply split in two in cases like this? Does a whole new soul suddenly appear to compensate? Which soul gets reincarnated? What happens to the one that doesn't?

This is unnecessary rhetoric of course. The simple answer is that there are no souls and no one is reincarnated.


Its great to see genuine intelligence.
01-16-2011, 12:46 AM #9
Not really sure I do belive in re-incarnation, it's an interesting concept and a nice thought at the back of your mind that if you die you comeback as some other lifeform. But personally I'm not sure I would want to be re-incarnated because if you are does it not just make life worethless... I like my life as it is now and I wouldn't soon want to abandon it to become something else if there is an afterlife I would much prefer to spend it as my current self rather than gambeling it away and becoming something else.

Arguing whether or not re-incarnation is real or not well where to start I supose it's intirely possible concidering there have been people that have claimed to remember past lives and people from them but who knows. Needlees to say though there are obviously forces in this world which we as human beings do not understand and the afterlife is just another one of these things we'll probally never know and if someone happens to stumble on something that proves it's exsistance then it will be kept a secret anyway.
01-16-2011, 04:25 AM #10
lolwhut
Do a barrel roll!
Hahahaha @ Katy Perry's panties.

But seriously, nope. Reincarnation revolves around the stream of consciousness created by your persisting after death, but since this stream of consciousness nicknamed a soul is created by the brain, after the brain dies, it obviously no longer exists, and it cannot come back in something else.

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Originally posted by elfmotat View Post
This is:
1. Not reincarnation as commonly defined. You are applying your own meaning to the word, which isn't an argument.
2. Not likely. The universe will not last forever, and the likelihood that the matter in our bodies will one day exist in an extraterrestrial life form before the end is so absurdly small that it's essentially zero.



I disagree. If there isn't some consensus on the definition of the term, then this is a pointless argument.


I will say have to say that the Universe does last forever. The universe by definition is the totality of known or supposed objects and phenomena throughout space. Space is an entity made up of 3 dimensions, there is no beginning or ending of space. The same can be said of time, it is a dimension that we humans lack the sensory detail to objectively perceive, therefore we fail to comprehend its true nature. So a specific event has a beginning and an ending relating to time, just as a specific object occupies a specific amount of space. However the amount of space that everything in totality takes up, or the beginning and ending of everything , aka the universe, does not exist as time and space are infinite.

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