Post: Unrest in Egypt: Your Side?
02-10-2011, 10:29 PM #1
NoMooreMercy
< ^ > < ^ >
(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); As you probably already know, Egypt is in a state of chaos due to the regime of Hosni Mubarak, the man who's ruled Egypt with an iron fist since 1981.

Timeline of Events:
Jan 4, 2011 - Bouazizi dies of his burns. Huge funeral adds momentum to protests against unemployment and repression.

Jan 14 - After days of clashes in which dozens are killed, and having made empty promises of reforms and elections, Tunisia's President Zine al-Abidine Ben Al flees to Saudi Arabia.

Jan 25 - Thousands of Egyptians demand an end to President Hosni Mubarak's rule and clash with police in a "Day of Wrath" inspired by Ben Ali's downfall.

Jan 26 - In unprecedented scenes, police fight with thousands of Egyptians who defy a
government ban to protest against Mubarak's rule.

Jan 27 - Mohamed ElBaradei, reform campaigner and former head of the IAEA, arrives in Cairo.

Jan 28 - At least 24 people are killed and more than 1,000 hurt in clashes throughout Egypt. Mubarak extends a curfew to all cities.
-- Mubarak orders troops and tanks into cities overnight to quell demonstrations. Thousands cheer at the news of the intervention of the army, which is seen as neutral, unlike the police who are regularly deployed to stifle dissent.

Jan 29 - Mubarak sacks his cabinet but refuses to step down. Protesters stream back into Cairo's central Tahrir Square in the early hours after Mubarak's announcement.
-- Mubarak names intelligence chief Omar Suleiman as vice-president.
-- Thousands of protesters roam the streets after a curfew starts. Egyptians form vigilante groups to guard property against looters.

Jan 31 - The army says it will not use force against Egyptians staging protests. It says freedom of expression is guaranteed to all citizens using peaceful means.
-- Egypt swears in a new government. Suleiman says Mubarak has asked him to start dialogue with all political forces.
-- Thousands in Tahrir Square hours after curfew, in a good-natured gathering, call for the president to quit.

Feb 1 - Mubarak declares he will surrender power when his term ends in September, offering a mixture of concessions and defiance in a televised statement.
-- Around 1 million Egyptians protest throughout the country for Mubarak to step down immediately.

Feb 2 - The army calls for protesters to leave the streets and curfew hours are eased.
-- Troops make no attempt to intervene as violence breaks out between pro- and anti-Mubarak groups in Tahrir Square.
-- The government rejects US and European calls for political transition to start immediately.

Feb 3 - Gunmen fire on anti-government protesters in Cairo, where about 10 are killed and more than 830 injured in fighting. The UN estimates that 300 people have died in the unrest.

Feb 4 - Thousands gather in Tahrir Square to again press for an end to Mubarak's rule in a "Day of Departure".

Feb 5 - Gamal Mubarak, son of the president, resigns from the leadership of Egypt's ruling party.

Feb 6 - Opposition groups, including the banned Muslim Brotherhood, hold talks with the government, chaired by the vice-president. They say a core demand for the removal of Mubarak is not met. The sides agree to draft a road map for talks and a committee is set up to study constitutional issues.
-- Banks re-open after a week-long closure.
-- Thousands gather in Tahrir Square joining noon prayers to honour "martyrs" killed in the bloodshed.

Feb 7 - MENA reports Mubarak has set up two committees to draw up changes to the constitution.
-- The stock market remains closed, to reopen on Feb 13.
-- Opposition figures report little progress in talks with the government.

Feb 8 - Egyptians stage one of their biggest protests.
-- Vice President Suleiman says Egypt has a timetable for the peaceful transfer of power. He promises no reprisals against the protesters.

Feb 9 - Four people are killed and several wounded in clashes between security forces and about 3,000 protesters in the western province of New Valley, south of Cairo.
-- Pro-democracy protesters consolidate a new encampment around Cairo's parliament building as Tahrir Square remains crowded. Protesters say organisers are working on plans to move on to the state radio and television building on Feb 11.

Feb 10 - On the 17th day of protests against his rule, Mubarak says Egypt is heading "day after day" to a peaceful transfer of power and he was committed to protect the constitution until that happens.

He hands powers to his vice-president but spurned protesters' demands that he quit office immediately. He also expressed regret over protesters' deaths.

Source: You must login or register to view this content.

Reasons to side with Pro or Anti...

Pro:
-Mubarak brings stability to the region
-Mubarak is friendly to Israel & the United States
-Mubarak states he'll peacefully leave Egypt in September

Anti:
-Promote healthcare reform
-Promote an answer to widespread unemployment
-Promote democracy & end tyranny
(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});

The following user thanked NoMooreMercy for this useful post:

adamjbh
02-10-2011, 10:49 PM #2
iNoxx
Do a barrel roll!
I think, people deserve to choose what's right for them. That ignorant person should get executed by the protesters.

I'm glad you created this thread, many debaters could contribute. I personally love reading people opinions and thoughts about relevant issues.

Anyhow, back to the issue. Mubark like you stated before held the country with an iron fist. His wealth, is literally above 40 billion dollars. 40 billion dollars explains itself. Symbolizes his carelessness to his country, indeed.

~More to come It's 2.49 AM in the morning.

The following user thanked iNoxx for this useful post:

adamjbh
02-10-2011, 10:51 PM #3
Gotham_Shadow
Do or Do Not, There is No Try
I must say that you did an amazing job by summarizing this disaster very accurately and in great detail. So great work with that Smile

Well I will say that I am on the Anti side then. They need help with their healthcare and unemployment as much as my country does as well.

I am never a fan of tyranny in format. I hate seeing the violence that is taking place there. Everytime I see what is going on there, I worry whether my country has to take on yet another "objective." I also should note, that many Americans such as myself, are against having to get involved in the problems of other countries.
02-10-2011, 10:53 PM #4
I'm pretty speechless to be honest.
02-10-2011, 11:11 PM #5
iNoxx
Do a barrel roll!
Originally posted by AceVirus View Post
I'm pretty speechless to be honest.


Aren't we all. :confused:

The following user thanked iNoxx for this useful post:

NoMooreMercy
02-10-2011, 11:18 PM #6
NeedaLifeSoon
Retired Life
They have a consitution: follow it.
Have a constitutional transfer of power as soon as possible.
Mubarek has to go, but not at the risk of having the country lose its consitutional laws.
Honestly the place is totally F*cked now.
The protesters will not be happy until he is gone and will not accept his VP Suleiman.
The military doesn't want control.
Maybe ElBaradi can be installed,, but the place is going to take years to recover.
Anyway it makes for good TV and the new orgs. love this crap.
02-11-2011, 04:04 PM #7
NoMooreMercy
< ^ > < ^ >
Originally posted by iNoxx View Post
Anyhow, back to the issue. Mubark like you stated before held the country with an iron fist. His wealth, is literally above 40 billion dollars. 40 billion dollars explains itself. Symbolizes his carelessness to his country, indeed.

Almost all, if not all, Arabian leaders are extremely powerful and wealthy, the corruption is unbelievable. Whether they're kings or leaders of a "republic" under emergency law.
Originally posted by edge4eva32 View Post
I also should note, that many Americans such as myself, are against having to get involved in the problems of other countries.

I am as well, but you need to realize the United States does provide a lot of aid to the country. But I'm glad we're getting booted out of the area, we have no business there.
Originally posted by AceVirus View Post
I'm pretty speechless to be honest.

If things don't change soon, expect it in DC soon too.
Originally posted by NeedaLifeSoon View Post

The protesters will not be happy until he is gone and will not accept his VP Suleiman.
The military doesn't want control.
Maybe ElBaradi can be installed,, but the place is going to take years to recover.
Anyway it makes for good TV and the new orgs. love this crap.

I honestly expect a military coup taking place in a few weeks, Mubarak refuses to step down and his VP is an even worse pick. The guy personally had detainees tortured to death, he was once the head of the Egyptian General Intelligence Directorate (Egyptian CIA). Read more about this guy, he seems even worse than Mubarak. You must login or register to view this content.
02-11-2011, 10:15 PM #8
Pricey91
Professor of trollology
Originally posted by NoMooreMercy View Post

I am as well, but you need to realize the United States does provide a lot of aid to the country. But I'm glad we're getting booted out of the area, we have no business there.

I'm trying to not to sound like a complete arse when saying this but, the US isn't exactly in the best of places at this moment in time. Maybe they should try looking after their own problems before trying to "save" the world.

Back on topic though, every country should have an elected government that is fighting for what is best for the people. Unfortunately, it's never going to happen. People so corrupt and greedy that it'll snow in hell first. If that was really what Mubarak was all about he would have stepped down within days of these protests starting. Obviously, he's gone now but I bet he's gone without the countries best interest at heart.

It'll be interesting to see where it goes from here. Are they just going to be in the same situation with the guy who takes over. Without a doubt it'll be a man that takes over, but that's a topic for another day.

The following 2 users say thank you to Pricey91 for this useful post:

Gotham_Shadow, xinfectedsoulx
02-12-2011, 08:58 AM #9
NoMooreMercy
< ^ > < ^ >
Originally posted by Pricey91 View Post
I'm trying to not to sound like a complete arse when saying this but, the US isn't exactly in the best of places at this moment in time. Maybe they should try looking after their own problems before trying to "save" the world.

I realize this, and it was their revolution. We had no interference, and I applaud that but I know the American government provides quite a bit of aid to Egypt and may possibly continue to do so. Not saying I support it (I don't), but it's a fact.
02-12-2011, 10:43 AM #10
Gotham_Shadow
Do or Do Not, There is No Try
Originally posted by Pricey91 View Post
I'm trying to not to sound like a complete arse when saying this but, the US isn't exactly in the best of places at this moment in time. Maybe they should try looking after their own problems before trying to "save" the world.



Thank God I am not the only person that thinks like this. I strongly believe my country needs to quit giving a damn about the other countries and to focus on ourselves. Here is my philosophy as an American, "We don't allow other countries rule us, then why should we control how other countries run?" It is the rights to operate their own countries anyway they feel is right. America should not be the "mother nation" of the world. We need to bring all the jobs overseas back to America and end NAFTA altogether.

Copyright © 2026, NextGenUpdate.
All Rights Reserved.

Gray NextGenUpdate Logo