Post: Need a little college advice
03-02-2011, 06:08 AM #1
OsamaBinLaden
Formerly Killa91606
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I have a 3.2+ 10-12 GPA, and it feels like it is not enough. however,with the classes im taking, its almost impossible for me to improve on. is it alright to have this gpa if I am going to a State University?

Please no trolling.

Edit- I live in California.
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03-02-2011, 06:10 AM #2
HtD
Dark Knight
Originally posted by Morsz View Post
This is not really a desperation thread, this is just seeing on what i can approve on.I am asking my counslers later

I have a 3.2+ 10-12 GPA, and it feels like it is not enough. however,with the classes im taking, its almost impossible for me to improve on. is it alright to have this gpa if I am going to a State University?

Please no trolling.


Ask your counselor, it depends from school to school.
03-02-2011, 06:10 AM #3
RavagedBoom
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Originally posted by Morsz View Post
This is not really a desperation thread, this is just seeing on what i can approve on.I am asking my counslers later

I have a 3.2+ 10-12 GPA, and it feels like it is not enough. however,with the classes im taking, its almost impossible for me to improve on. is it alright to have this gpa if I am going to a State University?

Please no trolling.


It seems fine to me. Just keep doing assignments and let those grades build on top of your GPA. A tip is going over your work. It sounds stupid considering it's what teachers tell us all the time but it really helps.

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OsamaBinLaden
03-02-2011, 06:14 AM #4
HtD
Dark Knight
Just read through the edit, & I think ur grades are fine, you can get into most schools in Cali. Just hit up your counselor and make sure to get a young one, the old counselors never know what the hell their talking about.

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OsamaBinLaden
03-02-2011, 07:16 AM #5
elfmotat
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A 3.2 will get you into a lot (if not, most) state schools, particularly the larger ones.

You might want to have a look at this as well: You must login or register to view this content.

Checking out your chances for particular schools at You must login or register to view this content. couldn't hurt either. The site was fairly accurate in my case: predicted 5/6 correctly.

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03-02-2011, 07:52 AM #6
Originally posted by Morsz View Post
This is not really a desperation thread, this is just seeing on what i can approve on.I am asking my counslers later

I have a 3.2+ 10-12 GPA, and it feels like it is not enough. however,with the classes im taking, its almost impossible for me to improve on. is it alright to have this gpa if I am going to a State University?

Please no trolling.

Edit- I live in California.


It varies quite a bit.

The main factors that you may want to observe are the following: majors, sat scores, gpa/courses. (No these aren't all the factors, just the major primary ones you should look out for.)

Factor One: Majors
Majors make all the difference. Majors are one of the categories that classify your competition. If you are majoring in engineering, you are competing against other students applying as an engineer to that school. You may want to take note of the impacted majors. I live in California as well and impacted majors are what you want to avoid, unless you are willing to wait for two years for spots to open, which is very doubtful.

In SDSU, engineering and nursing is impacted. You may want to think twice. Your chances are higher going to another university that offers engineering that isnt impacted. Universities with impacted majors are very selective and demanding. You would best go for a major that isnt impact, and later on after GED or your first year in the university to switch majors.

You may want to keep in mind that you want to avoid undecided majors. This is very risky because you are competing against other students applying under Undecided. Undecided students can have a 1700 SAT score with a 4.3GPA to a 1100 SAT Score with a 3.1GPA. Just note that Undecided by default is considered Impacted for any school as you are compared to a greater student pool.

Factor Two: SAT Scores
These make a big difference in applications. Many have scores around 2200s and others around 1400s. SAT Scores show the overall proficiency of a student. It shows overall growth and knowledge of what the student has learned and the ability to retain information. SAT are great benefactors; however, this does not necessairly mean that colleges will look at you exclusively on SAT. Other things such as Subject Test or Sports/Extracurricular activities can supplement your average scores.

Factor Three: GPA / Course
This criteria is quite interesting as each school look at a student uniquely. Schools in the UC System such as UCI look at the courses rather than the GPA. If the student is able to maintain rigorous AP courses and pass the AP test resulting in a B or higher in the class shows that the student is willing to learn. Courses are highly overlooked, over GPA. Some schools want to see rigor in your class schedules and others want to see an overall GPA.

UC schools look at both Courses and GPA; however, as previously mentioned, UC campuses like UCI favor those who can pass difficult course schedules.

CSU schools look exclusively on Statistics. This is GPA and Testing scores. Courses are not a factor in their process of determining whether a student is admitted or not. Scores such as ACT or SAT and GPA are the only thing that CSU look at. (There are some CSUs with exceptions, again they all vary).

Source: My cousin is apart of the SDSU Engineering Staff, who knows quite a bit about college applications. He is also part of the admissions department and tutor.

My personal experience:
Im going to college fall of 2011.

I got accepted into Cal Poly San Luis Obispo as an Electrical Engineer minoring with Physics with only a 3.3GPA and 1400s in SAT (which I should of studied for). My junior year contained 5 AP classes all of which I passed. Still just waiting in on my UCI admission letter however.

I will update if I did get into UCI or not.

Nevertheless, for engineering Cal Poly SLO is ranked 2, Cal Tech being number 1 and SDSU being number 3. UCI rankings in engineering is no where near the top 100.

So the best school for you would depend on major, gpa/courses and testing scores.

Hope this helps,
Adrian

Quote me if you need any more clarifications.

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03-02-2011, 11:45 PM #7
OsamaBinLaden
Formerly Killa91606
Originally posted by asdfAdrian View Post
It varies quite a bit.

The main factors that you may want to observe are the following: majors, sat scores, gpa/courses. (No these aren't all the factors, just the major primary ones you should look out for.)

Factor One: Majors
Majors make all the difference. Majors are one of the categories that classify your competition. If you are majoring in engineering, you are competing against other students applying as an engineer to that school. You may want to take note of the impacted majors. I live in California as well and impacted majors are what you want to avoid, unless you are willing to wait for two years for spots to open, which is very doubtful.

In SDSU, engineering and nursing is impacted. You may want to think twice. Your chances are higher going to another university that offers engineering that isnt impacted. Universities with impacted majors are very selective and demanding. You would best go for a major that isnt impact, and later on after GED or your first year in the university to switch majors.

You may want to keep in mind that you want to avoid undecided majors. This is very risky because you are competing against other students applying under Undecided. Undecided students can have a 1700 SAT score with a 4.3GPA to a 1100 SAT Score with a 3.1GPA. Just note that Undecided by default is considered Impacted for any school as you are compared to a greater student pool.

Factor Two: SAT Scores
These make a big difference in applications. Many have scores around 2200s and others around 1400s. SAT Scores show the overall proficiency of a student. It shows overall growth and knowledge of what the student has learned and the ability to retain information. SAT are great benefactors; however, this does not necessairly mean that colleges will look at you exclusively on SAT. Other things such as Subject Test or Sports/Extracurricular activities can supplement your average scores.

Factor Three: GPA / Course
This criteria is quite interesting as each school look at a student uniquely. Schools in the UC System such as UCI look at the courses rather than the GPA. If the student is able to maintain rigorous AP courses and pass the AP test resulting in a B or higher in the class shows that the student is willing to learn. Courses are highly overlooked, over GPA. Some schools want to see rigor in your class schedules and others want to see an overall GPA.

UC schools look at both Courses and GPA; however, as previously mentioned, UC campuses like UCI favor those who can pass difficult course schedules.

CSU schools look exclusively on Statistics. This is GPA and Testing scores. Courses are not a factor in their process of determining whether a student is admitted or not. Scores such as ACT or SAT and GPA are the only thing that CSU look at. (There are some CSUs with exceptions, again they all vary).

Source: My cousin is apart of the SDSU Engineering Staff, who knows quite a bit about college applications. He is also part of the admissions department and tutor.

My personal experience:
Im going to college fall of 2011.

I got accepted into Cal Poly San Luis Obispo as an Electrical Engineer minoring with Physics with only a 3.3GPA and 1400s in SAT (which I should of studied for). My junior year contained 5 AP classes all of which I passed. Still just waiting in on my UCI admission letter however.

I will update if I did get into UCI or not.

Nevertheless, for engineering Cal Poly SLO is ranked 2, Cal Tech being number 1 and SDSU being number 3. UCI rankings in engineering is no where near the top 100.

So the best school for you would depend on major, gpa/courses and testing scores.

Hope this helps,
Adrian

Quote me if you need any more clarifications.


Originally posted by elfmotat View Post
A 3.2 will get you into a lot (if not, most) state schools, particularly the larger ones.

You might want to have a look at this as well: You must login or register to view this content.

Checking out your chances for particular schools at You must login or register to view this content. couldn't hurt either. The site was fairly accurate in my case: predicted 5/6 correctly.


Originally posted by HtD View Post
Just read through the edit, & I think ur grades are fine, you can get into most schools in Cali. Just hit up your counselor and make sure to get a young one, the old counselors never know what the hell their talking about.


Originally posted by EDGARDI View Post
It seems fine to me. Just keep doing assignments and let those grades build on top of your GPA. A tip is going over your work. It sounds stupid considering it's what teachers tell us all the time but it really helps.


Thanks for the help guys. As for the edit, I did not know what I was thinking saying that I want to go to UCI. When i saw the average GPA In UCI, i laughed because it was a high 4.0 GPA. I really just want to go to an college like Cal Poly Tech, with a BS In Computer Science.

Also, I was wondering with some Colleges, The requirements to get in is saying that If I have a 3.0 10-12 GPA or higher, my SAT Score does not matter?

Im also going to my counslers tommorow.
03-03-2011, 05:27 AM #8
Originally posted by Morsz View Post
Thanks for the help guys. As for the edit, I did not know what I was thinking saying that I want to go to UCI. When i saw the average GPA In UCI, i laughed because it was a high 4.0 GPA. I really just want to go to an college like Cal Poly Tech, with a BS In Computer Science.

Also, I was wondering with some Colleges, The requirements to get in is saying that If I have a 3.0 10-12 GPA or higher, my SAT Score does not matter?

Im also going to my counslers tommorow.

Well it will matter. Its just that other colleges look more at other factors, but they still matter.
03-03-2011, 06:18 AM #9
elfmotat
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Originally posted by Morsz View Post
Also, I was wondering with some Colleges, The requirements to get in is saying that If I have a 3.0 10-12 GPA or higher, my SAT Score does not matter?


Generally, as long as you have an average or slightly above average SAT score (somewhere between 1600-2000) then your scores don't really matter much. Because those are the same scores that most applicants are sending in, the admissions staff has to look at your other details such as GPA, course-load, extracurriculars, etc.


Your score CAN make or break you however. If you have an "abnormally" low score (below 1500), getting accepted may be a lot harder. Likewise, If you have an abnormally high score (2100+), you will likely find it much easier to get in.

For example, my SAT score was a 2260 while my GPA was only a 3.5. I was accepted into schools with average incoming student GPA's ranging from 3.8 to 4.0. The SAT helped me out a lot. Try to do as well as you possibly can (take practice tests and study problems/vocab) because it may, and likely will, benefit you.

High SAT scores can also get you into honors programs at a lot of state schools. The requirement is usually something like a 2100+ score. In tern, you get extra privileges and scholarships that the other students don't.

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