Post: Koran Burner Is Jailed For 70 Days
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04-19-2011, 04:32 PM
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A FORMER squaddie who burned a copy of the Koran in anger after seeing Muslims set fire to poppies has been jailed for 70 days.
Andrew Ryan, 32, "lost it" after watching videos of extremists which also included them abusing soldiers returning from duty in Afghanistan.
After stealing a £5 copy of the Islamic holy book from a library he stood on a bench in a street and set it alight, yelling: "You burn our poppies, I'll burn your Koran."
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Choudhury... £60 fine
Ryan, who is in the right-wing English Defence League, admitted religiously aggravated harassment, alarm and distress and stealing the library book in January.
Eleven of his supporters walked out of Carlisle Magistrates' Court in Cumbria after the sentencing, shouting: "That's a joke."
It comes after Islamic extremist Emdadur Choudhury, 26, was fined £60 for torching poppies in London on Armistice Day.
Judge Chalk said Ryan, of Cumbria, who has six convictions for offences including using indecent or racially aggravated language at a football game, was guilty of "preplanned theatrical bigotry".
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Jailed... Andrew Ryan
He added: "You went out to cause maximum distress to people of the Islamic faith."
Andrew Ryan, 32, "lost it" after watching videos of extremists which also included them abusing soldiers returning from duty in Afghanistan.
After stealing a £5 copy of the Islamic holy book from a library he stood on a bench in a street and set it alight, yelling: "You burn our poppies, I'll burn your Koran."
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Choudhury... £60 fine
Ryan, who is in the right-wing English Defence League, admitted religiously aggravated harassment, alarm and distress and stealing the library book in January.
Eleven of his supporters walked out of Carlisle Magistrates' Court in Cumbria after the sentencing, shouting: "That's a joke."
It comes after Islamic extremist Emdadur Choudhury, 26, was fined £60 for torching poppies in London on Armistice Day.
Judge Chalk said Ryan, of Cumbria, who has six convictions for offences including using indecent or racially aggravated language at a football game, was guilty of "preplanned theatrical bigotry".
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Jailed... Andrew Ryan
He added: "You went out to cause maximum distress to people of the Islamic faith."
Now to reiterate, I'm not saying what this man did is right. And you don't make a right w/ 2 wrongs. But that doesn't change the fact that 70 days in prison for this after that prat pictured above was fined just £60 for burning poppies is flat-out BS.
I think to say this once great country is crumbling would be an understatement...
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04-19-2011, 10:44 PM
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juddylovespizza
I'VE GOT JUNGLE FEVER
04-20-2011, 12:02 AM
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LordOlliee
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Originally posted by ResistTheSun
True both have the same intent however the item used means different things.
Sadly that why the punishment is different.
And it does matter what it means that why the cases are different. Much like different types of murder charges.
Devil in the detail
You make it sound like all the Muslims are burning things. It not the case yes a number of people are but then a high number of people are not.
Only a small group of extremes are doing it because they believe it furthers the cause. Much like you get extremes of any group doing it.
My point is don't believe into the scare and think it a us and them.
We all live on the same planet we all brothers and sisters , should not be separate based on what we believe or colour.
By doing that you only bring fascism which destroys nations along with freedom.
"Country is falling apart" how ?
Nation is not in a bad state compared to when i was born. (can debate that tbh) It yet to start falling apart.
Blocking people from coming to the UK and cutting us off going to make it worse for all people on this island. We part of the global world and connected. Cutting ties which keep us rich ain't going to fix a damn single problem within this island.
Most of the UK issues are from changes to are culture and society along with easier to travel. We created a massive imbalanced in terms of wealth and removed community links by traveling. What am saying is blocking people from coming to this nation won't fix the problem because it the result of these changes.
Saying that the number coming here are quite low compared to what people think.
I think your just wrong "bias against Brits" nothing oh your foreign here a house and cash more then a brit.
Sadly i feel you been taken in by the scare and fear they are taking are jobs.
It far too easy to look at other groups and blame are own problems on them. Then looking in the mirror and fixing the real problem.
Corruption of the trade deals we have are far too easy to see. Look at how poor some places are compared to others. Easy fix just means less good trade deals for us.
Irony is we say we want to cure poverty but we unwilling to give up things for it.
Don't believe am naive when i know we do all we can to keep others nations down to keep us up.
Tbh your far more naive thinking blocking people from coming here and kicking people out going to solve are problems
Sadly that why the punishment is different.
And it does matter what it means that why the cases are different. Much like different types of murder charges.
Devil in the detail
You make it sound like all the Muslims are burning things. It not the case yes a number of people are but then a high number of people are not.
Only a small group of extremes are doing it because they believe it furthers the cause. Much like you get extremes of any group doing it.
My point is don't believe into the scare and think it a us and them.
We all live on the same planet we all brothers and sisters , should not be separate based on what we believe or colour.
By doing that you only bring fascism which destroys nations along with freedom.
"Country is falling apart" how ?
Nation is not in a bad state compared to when i was born. (can debate that tbh) It yet to start falling apart.
Blocking people from coming to the UK and cutting us off going to make it worse for all people on this island. We part of the global world and connected. Cutting ties which keep us rich ain't going to fix a damn single problem within this island.
Most of the UK issues are from changes to are culture and society along with easier to travel. We created a massive imbalanced in terms of wealth and removed community links by traveling. What am saying is blocking people from coming to this nation won't fix the problem because it the result of these changes.
Saying that the number coming here are quite low compared to what people think.
I think your just wrong "bias against Brits" nothing oh your foreign here a house and cash more then a brit.
Sadly i feel you been taken in by the scare and fear they are taking are jobs.
It far too easy to look at other groups and blame are own problems on them. Then looking in the mirror and fixing the real problem.
Corruption of the trade deals we have are far too easy to see. Look at how poor some places are compared to others. Easy fix just means less good trade deals for us.
Irony is we say we want to cure poverty but we unwilling to give up things for it.
Don't believe am naive when i know we do all we can to keep others nations down to keep us up.
Tbh your far more naive thinking blocking people from coming here and kicking people out going to solve are problems
wow, that was like reading one of my English essays at school
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04-20-2011, 02:25 AM
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020king
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Originally posted by ZoneHD
Immigrant bastards.
-Rep me all you want, its ****in true, i get so pissed off at this aswell.
I say +1 to him, They dont get jailed but we do because the its SOFT BRITAIN.
If we did that over in there country, we would get stoned to death. Not this >:420:
-Rep me all you want, its ****in true, i get so pissed off at this aswell.
I say +1 to him, They dont get jailed but we do because the its SOFT BRITAIN.
If we did that over in there country, we would get stoned to death. Not this >:420:
lol you are pointing the finger in the wrong direction, its not immigrants, these extremists are born in england, thats right they are british, and they are only doing it for publicity,
my opinion on this is, these extremists are not muslims, they are a disgrace and are bringing wrong immpressions to our religion, they even plan to protest on the princes wedding?? what a fukkkin joke motherfukkkers, i dont support the edl but the edl will be covering everyunderground line waiting for these guys to get off the train, hope both groups end up getting run over by the train, they should have just charged this guy with public disorder and gave him a fine, :dumb: if someone burnt the quran, i wouldnt go out and burn their bible or whatever, a small minority does not speak for the big majority, if every muslim was extremist then the whole of britain would be under attack as islam is the 2nd popular religion, does the kkk speak for the christians?? NO so dont call these racists fukkk muslims because their not
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04-20-2011, 02:31 AM
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020king
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Originally posted by juddylovespizza
I think we will all only take too much of this shit from these pakis and once they go to far we will snap and hopefully show them who is boss of this country, the english christians.
pakis?? really, their is blacks whites and browns in that extremist group and they are all born in the uk, so the problem is within the uk, and yet u hate on pakis but your mum and dad love currys and kebabs:y: its not even about race, if all of the muslim society was extremists their would be no britain and millions would die, then america would move in and take the oil haha :wub:
04-20-2011, 03:45 AM
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persainopz
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Originally posted by 020king
lol you are pointing the finger in the wrong direction, its not immigrants, these extremists are born in england, thats right they are british, and they are only doing it for publicity,
my opinion on this is, these extremists are not muslims, they are a disgrace and are bringing wrong immpressions to our religion, they even plan to protest on the princes wedding?? what a fukkkin joke motherfukkkers, i dont support the edl but the edl will be covering everyunderground line waiting for these guys to get off the train, hope both groups end up getting run over by the train, they should have just charged this guy with public disorder and gave him a fine, :dumb: if someone burnt the quran, i wouldnt go out and burn their bible or whatever, a small minority does not speak for the big majority, if every muslim was extremist then the whole of britain would be under attack as islam is the 2nd popular religion, does the kkk speak for the christians?? NO so dont call these racists fukkk muslims because their not
my opinion on this is, these extremists are not muslims, they are a disgrace and are bringing wrong immpressions to our religion, they even plan to protest on the princes wedding?? what a fukkkin joke motherfukkkers, i dont support the edl but the edl will be covering everyunderground line waiting for these guys to get off the train, hope both groups end up getting run over by the train, they should have just charged this guy with public disorder and gave him a fine, :dumb: if someone burnt the quran, i wouldnt go out and burn their bible or whatever, a small minority does not speak for the big majority, if every muslim was extremist then the whole of britain would be under attack as islam is the 2nd popular religion, does the kkk speak for the christians?? NO so dont call these racists fukkk muslims because their not
I agree with you man!
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