(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Whoa! Slow down sailor! You're making a suggestion, or responding to one if you've came here. And I thank you for taking the time to read this. It's what I believe makes a good suggestion, and a good response.

[multipage=Making a suggestion]

So you're making a suggestion. Great! Maybe it'll help the community grow! But only if you get your ideas across properly.

First off, make sure you write in clear to read plain English. Admins and moderators do not want to have to use translators to see what you want posted, and they certainly don't want to have to guess what you want if you write like any of the following:

• z0mg i WaNt ThIs AdDiNg!!
  
• AD DIS NAO
  
• Plz put dis on
  
• Plz reed
  
• mods don't close - (this will make mods want to close it!)
  

Your suggestion title should be short, yet explaining clearly what you want installing, an example may be any of these:

• Add vBookie Support
  
• Add new fonts into the font selector
  
• Update vBShop to support Sport Team Logos
  

(random suggestions)

After you've written your title, don't go back to your 1337 text, finish what you started. Tell staff exactly what it is you want installing, including a link to any official modifications from vbulletin.org that would help to intergrate your ideas. Also, explain why your idea should be intergrated, don't just go ahead and post it.

A good post would be this:

    Thread Title: Add vBookie Support



Thread Body: I think we should add vBookie support! I think this will let us bet our vBux in order to earn even more, which will in turn encourage more members to sign up and compete. It will also make it even more fun for existing members to be able to play while they browse the forums.



Here is a link to the official modification on vbulletin.org:



https://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=233473



Thank you.

Not only does this look professional, it also lets staff know what you think should be installed.

Of course, you need to keep a few things in mind, the main one being "will this benefit just me, or the entire community?". If your answer is just you, it is not a good idea, so don't even bother asking, it'll more than likely be denied. However, if you're positive it will benefit the community too, before you post it, ask youself question two, "how much will this benefit the community?".

If it's "very slightly", then again, don't ask, there's nearly 600,000 members on this site and if it doesn't benefit most to all members, then it's more likely to be denied.

A third question would be "does a modification already exist that would help this idea be intergrated?". If it's "no", then it's more likely to be denied if it does not exist, but if "yes" then it's more likely to be approved because it's easier to install. This also helps staff install it quicker as they don't have to search for anything themselves. Remember: vbulletin.org is free to search for official modifications, and will only take a minute or two of your time.

The last question, and probably the least obvious, would be "will the members here actually want this installed?". This is similar to question one, with one major difference: an idea can benefit a community, but be hated by the members at the same time. If members do not want this, it can severly increase the chances of the suggestion being denied. Ask one or two members on the shoutbox, ask someone via PM, or even ask someone you know personally if they think it's a good idea. If they don't, it may mean only a few people won't like it, but can possibly mean nobody likes it. Make sure you ask around at least 8-10 people whether they would like it or if they think it'd be a good idea.

This alone won't guarantee your suggestion definitely will be approved, however it will significantly raise the chances of the suggestion being approved. Read the next page on how to write a good response.

[multipage=Responding to a suggestion]

Regardless of whether you're responding to a reply on your own suggestion, or a reply on someone elses, writing like an idiot certainly doesn't help, and has lead to reported and deleted posts, threads, and even infractions in certain situations. If you want to post a good response, you need to think aout a few things.

First, think about the person you're responding to. Look at the idea through their perspective. This can help you identify possible flaws in future suggestions, whether you post them or not. It will also help you see how they can see the flaw, and allow you to post either a well structured argument against them, or agreeing that the post has flaws.

Next, as with when you suggest an idea, write in clear, easy to read plain English, nothing else. Remember, it's discussions about the suggestion that can actually change a moderator or an administrator's opinion around in your favour.

Explain clearly why you think it is a good or bad suggestion. Make sure you use punctuation where appropriate, so that staff can read sentences like the following without struggling:

    I think this is a great idea but what about if vBux are multiplied and become worthless this is bad because then it means the system is basically glitched and worthless it also means we have to increase the cost of things in the store because people can earn vBux easier.

That, is annoying as hell to read, especially in a suggestion discussion.

Instead, tell them in three or four sentences exactly why it's a good or bad idea, pointing out the strong or weak points as you go to aid the suggestion in your favour, and take the time to explain why they're strong or weak points. Remember, it's these suggestions which will shape the future of the forum.

When you've written a post, take time to re-read your post and make sure you've not made any mistakes, and that you have clearly explained any strong or weak points you can pick out.

Responses to the suggestions can sway an administrator or moderator's opinion, depending on how well you argue your side. If you argue it well enough, they may agree with your side. Bear in mind that again, this is not going to definitely guarantee that every suggestion you argue for or against will be approved or denied, however it does feature massively in the mind of staff, especially moderators and administrators, who after all have the final say in if it's to be intergrated or not.

Read the next page for some suggestions that as of now will NOT be approved, regardless of how well you argue for it.

[multipage=Final things]

Here's a list of suggestions that will not be approved:

• Asking for reputation to be brought back. It simply isn't going to happen, so don't bother asking for it; you'll be wasting your time, and staff's time when they deny it.
  
• Asking for flaming or racism to be allowed. That would lead to the self-destruction of the forum due to flame/race wars.
  
• Asking for certain important rules to be changed. This is not going to happen. Rules are here to protect members, so if you disagree with them, you'll have to put up with them.
  
• Asking stupid suggestions - ie. any of the above, asking to change the theme, change the logo, change the user rank images. These will be changed when the administrators decide to, not because you want a new logo.
  

There's much more, and I hope they're posted here so I can include them here, but until then there's the suggestions that just won't be approved, regardless.

Thanks for reading this thread, and I hope this cleans up the suggestions box a little bit =D

good suggestions come from a good idea...doing it good is better and writing it well...:bat:
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Do we have to post 10 times to see the URLs ?
Any suggestion to me is welcome.