Post: Gay Bullying
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09-21-2011, 01:58 AM
#1
AgentJon
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Originally posted by another user
Jamey Rodemeyer, a 14-year-old boy from Williamsville, NY, took his life Sunday after what his parents claim was years of bullying because of struggles with his sexuality.
His parents, Tracy and Tim Rodemeyer, say that Jamey faced bullies for years, though things intensified in middle school, according to NBC 2. Jamey recently became a freshman at Williamsville North High School.
In the wake of their loss, the Rodemeyers hope to carry on a message of anti-bullying and acceptance. "To the kids who are bullying they have to realize that words are very powerful and what you think is just fun and games isn't to some people, and you are destroying a lot of lives," Jamey's father told WIVB.
Tracy Rodemeyer misses her son, but hopes the loss can still be used to teach a message of tolerance. "It took him away from our family way too early and we're just convinced that he had a purpose on this planet and it was to touch as many people as he could," she told NBC 2.
According to NBC, the Rodemeyers had gone to the school about the problem in the past. Jamey even sought counseling to learn to deal with the problem, but it seems it wasn't enough.
While they say their son seemed happy in the days leading up to the tragedy, his "It Gets Better" YouTube posting from May includes details about how intense the bullying was.
Through it all, Jayme remained outwardly optimistic. “That's all you have to do. Just love yourself and you're set. And I promise you, it'll get better,” he said in the video, which you can see in full below.
Gay bullying has been gaining increasing attention in the media, as a number of tragedies has brought the issue into the spotlight. Earlier this month the California State Senate passed "Seth's Law" a measure designed to curb anti-gay bullying in schools.
His parents, Tracy and Tim Rodemeyer, say that Jamey faced bullies for years, though things intensified in middle school, according to NBC 2. Jamey recently became a freshman at Williamsville North High School.
In the wake of their loss, the Rodemeyers hope to carry on a message of anti-bullying and acceptance. "To the kids who are bullying they have to realize that words are very powerful and what you think is just fun and games isn't to some people, and you are destroying a lot of lives," Jamey's father told WIVB.
Tracy Rodemeyer misses her son, but hopes the loss can still be used to teach a message of tolerance. "It took him away from our family way too early and we're just convinced that he had a purpose on this planet and it was to touch as many people as he could," she told NBC 2.
According to NBC, the Rodemeyers had gone to the school about the problem in the past. Jamey even sought counseling to learn to deal with the problem, but it seems it wasn't enough.
While they say their son seemed happy in the days leading up to the tragedy, his "It Gets Better" YouTube posting from May includes details about how intense the bullying was.
Through it all, Jayme remained outwardly optimistic. “That's all you have to do. Just love yourself and you're set. And I promise you, it'll get better,” he said in the video, which you can see in full below.
Gay bullying has been gaining increasing attention in the media, as a number of tragedies has brought the issue into the spotlight. Earlier this month the California State Senate passed "Seth's Law" a measure designed to curb anti-gay bullying in schools.
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10-01-2011, 01:20 AM
#65
Maguss
Do a barrel roll!
Originally posted by Kaspa
I love how you speak as if you're this man, you aren't, you have no idea what went on his head. I've been chronically depressed before, and I can assure you that suicide is always running through your head as it's the only way of escaping the pain you go through everyday in life. Thanks to my parents I got through my depression and didn't do anything dangerous, he probably didn't get any support from his parents/guardians, or not enough. If they did, they would of had him move to another school. His parents were probably against the fact their son was gay, and did their fair share of 'bullying'.
Please, please, stop talking like you know everything, when you go through an abominable moment in your life and you have severe depression like this guy had, you will understand to why he chose to commit suicide.
Please, please, stop talking like you know everything, when you go through an abominable moment in your life and you have severe depression like this guy had, you will understand to why he chose to commit suicide.
OK line up folks here goes...
Kasper, you are still completely ignoring the fact that all of these things you are talking about are emotional and in no way physical. NO-THING you have said has backed up your attempt to say that he had no option. I am not talking like I know everything but I am saying something that is an actual real life fact my friend. In no way did this man/boy/whatever have only one option (to kill himself), he ALWAYS had options whether or not he chose to pursue them, or let one thought cloud his troubled mentally disabled mind (yes depression is a mental illness).
10-01-2011, 01:22 AM
#66
Jeremy
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Originally posted by Just4Hax
This makes me sick. You are an idiotic adolescence, and the kind who would bully someone for something they cannot control.
You have never been near suicidal or depression I'm assuming, you have no clue how much it feels. It feels as if every minute you want to ball out crying, but you can't. That there is nothing you can do to stop the pain, and that it feels that much worse. I have been in depression with several suicidal thoughts. I promise you, it is one of the most painful feelings.
And yes, it is ruled suicide. But your reasoning is ****ing terrible. Under your logic if I had a toddler a gun and keep pushing it towards his head and he happens to pull the trigger its entirely his fault!
If I happen to throw gasoline all over a house without telling the owner, and he flicks a match its his fault.
Honestly, ... there are no words to describe this post.
You have never been near suicidal or depression I'm assuming, you have no clue how much it feels. It feels as if every minute you want to ball out crying, but you can't. That there is nothing you can do to stop the pain, and that it feels that much worse. I have been in depression with several suicidal thoughts. I promise you, it is one of the most painful feelings.
And yes, it is ruled suicide. But your reasoning is ****ing terrible. Under your logic if I had a toddler a gun and keep pushing it towards his head and he happens to pull the trigger its entirely his fault!
If I happen to throw gasoline all over a house without telling the owner, and he flicks a match its his fault.
Honestly, ... there are no words to describe this post.
Ive been in that state of depression quite frequently, and quite frankly the only reason im here is because of my family and freinds and things like this that so inspiring for me that things will get better.
Thanks for your response
10-01-2011, 01:22 AM
#67
Kaspa
MUDAMUDAMUDA!!!
Originally posted by Maguss
OK line up folks here goes...
Kasper, you are still completely ignoring the fact that all of these things you are talking about are emotional and in no way physical. NO-THING you have said has backed up your attempt to say that he had no option. I am not talking like I know everything but I am saying something that is an actual real life fact my friend. In no way did this man/boy/whatever have only one option (to kill himself), he ALWAYS had options whether or not he chose to pursue them, or let one thought cloud his troubled mentally disabled mind (yes depression is a mental illness).
Kasper, you are still completely ignoring the fact that all of these things you are talking about are emotional and in no way physical. NO-THING you have said has backed up your attempt to say that he had no option. I am not talking like I know everything but I am saying something that is an actual real life fact my friend. In no way did this man/boy/whatever have only one option (to kill himself), he ALWAYS had options whether or not he chose to pursue them, or let one thought cloud his troubled mentally disabled mind (yes depression is a mental illness).
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10-01-2011, 01:23 AM
#68
Maguss
Do a barrel roll!
Originally posted by RaichuHD
You know 'technically right' and 'picky for the sake of being an asshole' aren't mutually exclusive? You're basically saying it's this boy's fault that he was tormented for years, been driven to a bad state of depression and decided to end it
What a people person you are. Very understanding,
What a people person you are. Very understanding,
Never once did I say it was his fault for being tormented, I dont really think anyone is at fault in this situation except for maybe the bullies for making fun of him however this has literally nothing to do with the physical act of him taking his own life... You people just ignore that over and over... What I am amazed a is how you cant understand the fact that he was in no way forced to take his own life, its pretty simple to see and if you cant your mind is clouded in anger over the bullying issue and your personal experience with depression.
10-01-2011, 01:28 AM
#69
RaichuHD
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Originally posted by Maguss
OK line up folks here goes...
Kasper, you are still completely ignoring the fact that all of these things you are talking about are emotional and in no way physical. NO-THING you have said has backed up your attempt to say that he had no option. I am not talking like I know everything but I am saying something that is an actual real life fact my friend. In no way did this man/boy/whatever have only one option (to kill himself), he ALWAYS had options whether or not he chose to pursue them, or let one thought cloud his troubled mentally disabled mind (yes depression is a mental illness).
Kasper, you are still completely ignoring the fact that all of these things you are talking about are emotional and in no way physical. NO-THING you have said has backed up your attempt to say that he had no option. I am not talking like I know everything but I am saying something that is an actual real life fact my friend. In no way did this man/boy/whatever have only one option (to kill himself), he ALWAYS had options whether or not he chose to pursue them, or let one thought cloud his troubled mentally disabled mind (yes depression is a mental illness).
Really, just get out. You obviously have no empathy (a mental illness known as psychopathy) and feel nothing past smug
Originally posted by another user
You people just ignore that over and over... What I am amazed a is how you cant understand the fact that he was in no way forced to take his own life, its pretty simple to see and if you cant your mind is clouded in anger over the bullying issue and your personal experience with depression.
Well yeah, life experiences and empathy towards unfortunate people does make me biased. If you expected any less of me, you should be looking in a therapist's waiting room and not on forums
10-01-2011, 01:32 AM
#70
Maguss
Do a barrel roll!
Originally posted by Just4Hax
This makes me sick. You are an idiotic adolescence, and the kind who would bully someone for something they cannot control.
You have never been near suicidal or depression I'm assuming, you have no clue how much it feels. It feels as if every minute you want to ball out crying, but you can't. That there is nothing you can do to stop the pain, and that it feels that much worse. I have been in depression with several suicidal thoughts. I promise you, it is one of the most painful feelings.
And yes, it is ruled suicide. But your reasoning is ****ing terrible. Under your logic if I had a toddler a gun and keep pushing it towards his head and he happens to pull the trigger its entirely his fault!
If I happen to throw gasoline all over a house without telling the owner, and he flicks a match its his fault.
Honestly, ... there are no words to describe this post.
You have never been near suicidal or depression I'm assuming, you have no clue how much it feels. It feels as if every minute you want to ball out crying, but you can't. That there is nothing you can do to stop the pain, and that it feels that much worse. I have been in depression with several suicidal thoughts. I promise you, it is one of the most painful feelings.
And yes, it is ruled suicide. But your reasoning is ****ing terrible. Under your logic if I had a toddler a gun and keep pushing it towards his head and he happens to pull the trigger its entirely his fault!
If I happen to throw gasoline all over a house without telling the owner, and he flicks a match its his fault.
Honestly, ... there are no words to describe this post.
LOL never once did I make fun of this kid or his situation... and YOU the one calling me an "idiotic adolescence" (therefor passing a judgment on someone you don't even know anything about) are being the bully by name calling for no reason. Hmm how is this different than what happend to this kid? Am I going to go kill myself now? NO, because I dont care at all what you think about me, it has literally nothing to do with me a a person or the person who I know I am... This kid did not have the ability to realize that for whatever reason...
Regardless of whatever "pain" you feel in a depressed state it is emotional and not physical and it in certainly can no way cause your body to shut down completely... You are really just trying to say something that is not true...
How is my reasoning terrible, it was a suicide its not like im giving a reason for anything its a fact stated in the article...
NO, under my logic that is not the same in any way shape or form... If you do that to a toddler you are most certainly a physical part of what is happening and surely responsible in some fashion... don't make such wild comparisons... you are really grasping for straws here in an attempt to score and internet W when I am not holding a contest just simply stating a fact...
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Originally posted by Kaspa
You're ****ing stupid. It's no one else's fault that someone commits suicide?
Are you really saying that the people that bullied this guy everyday at school, anyone else that bullied him (maybe his parents) are not to blame for this guy to end his life? that is possibly the stupidest/most ignorant thing I've ever heard.
I'm not even going to bother reading any of your posts in future, you're simply disgusting.
Are you really saying that the people that bullied this guy everyday at school, anyone else that bullied him (maybe his parents) are not to blame for this guy to end his life? that is possibly the stupidest/most ignorant thing I've ever heard.
I'm not even going to bother reading any of your posts in future, you're simply disgusting.
Calling me ****ing stupid? How are you not trying to bully me right now guy? Get real man...
---------- Post added at 09:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:30 PM ----------
Originally posted by RaichuHD
Really, just get out. You obviously have no empathy (a mental illness known as psychopathy) and feel nothing past smug
Well yeah, life experiences and empathy towards unfortunate people does make me biased. If you expected any less of me, you should be looking in a therapist's waiting room and not on forums
Well yeah, life experiences and empathy towards unfortunate people does make me biased. If you expected any less of me, you should be looking in a therapist's waiting room and not on forums
Hmm really? Telling me to "get out" and that I don't belong here? And then making a slight at me? How do you think what happened to this kid was any different than what you are saying to me lmao.
10-01-2011, 01:33 AM
#71
RaichuHD
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Originally posted by Maguss
LOL never once did I make fun of this kid or his situation... and YOU the one calling me an "idiotic adolescence" (therefor passing a judgment on someone you don't even know anything about) are being the bully by name calling for no reason. Hmm how is this different than what happend to this kid? Am I going to go kill myself now? NO, because I dont care at all what you think about me, it has literally nothing to do with me a a person or the person who I know I am... This kid did not have the ability to realize that for whatever reason...
Regardless of whatever "pain" you feel in a depressed state it is emotional and not physical and it in certainly can no way cause your body to shut down completely... You are really just trying to say something that is not true...
How is my reasoning terrible, it was a suicide its not like im giving a reason for anything its a fact stated in the article...
NO, under my logic that is not the same in any way shape or form... If you do that to a toddler you are most certainly a physical part of what is happening and surely responsible in some fashion... don't make such wild comparisons... you are really grasping for straws here in an attempt to score and internet W when I am not holding a contest just simply stating a fact...
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Calling me ****ing stupid? How are you not trying to bully me right now guy? Get real man...
---------- Post added at 09:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:30 PM ----------
Hmm really? Telling me to "get out" and that I don't belong here? And then making a slight at me? How do you think what happened to this kid was any different than what you are saying to me lmao.
Regardless of whatever "pain" you feel in a depressed state it is emotional and not physical and it in certainly can no way cause your body to shut down completely... You are really just trying to say something that is not true...
How is my reasoning terrible, it was a suicide its not like im giving a reason for anything its a fact stated in the article...
NO, under my logic that is not the same in any way shape or form... If you do that to a toddler you are most certainly a physical part of what is happening and surely responsible in some fashion... don't make such wild comparisons... you are really grasping for straws here in an attempt to score and internet W when I am not holding a contest just simply stating a fact...
---------- Post added at 09:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:29 PM ----------
Calling me ****ing stupid? How are you not trying to bully me right now guy? Get real man...
---------- Post added at 09:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:30 PM ----------
Hmm really? Telling me to "get out" and that I don't belong here? And then making a slight at me? How do you think what happened to this kid was any different than what you are saying to me lmao.
Oh, this is why you're so uneducated on the topic. You think being insulted because of your shallowness and genuine stupidity is bullying. Basically, you've no idea what you're on about
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