Post: **** you David Cameron!
10-11-2011, 11:34 AM #1
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Subscribers to four of the UK's biggest internet service providers will have to "opt in" if they want to view sexually explicit websites, as part of government-sponsored curbs on online pornography.

The measures will be unveiled on Tuesday as David Cameron hosts No 10 meeting with the Mothers' Union, which earlier this year produced a raft of proposals to shield children from sexualised imagery.

The prime minister is expected to announce other moves in line with the Christian charity's review, such as restrictions on aggressive advertising campaigns and certain types of images on billboards.

There will also be a website, Parentport, which parents can use to complain about television programmes, advertisements, products or services which they believe are inappropriate for children.

The site, which will direct complaints to the regulator dealing with that specific area of concern, is expected to be run by watchdogs including the Advertising Standards Authority, BBC Trust, British Board of Film Classification, Ofcom, Press Complaints Commission, Video Standards Council and Pan European Game Information.

The service providers involved are BT, Sky, TalkTalk and Virgin. Customers who do not opt in to adult content will be unableto access pornographic websites.

Cameron gave strong backing in June to the Mothers' Union proposals after he commissioned a six-month review by the charity's chief executive, Reg Bailey. However, Cameron did not commit to legislation.

Bailey's recommendations included providing parents with one single website to make it easier to complain about any programme, advert, product or service, putting age restrictions on music videos and ensuring retailers offer age-appropriate clothes for children.

Cameron wrote to Bailey in June to thank him for his report. "I very much agree with the central approach you set out," the letter said.

"As you say, we should not try and wrap children up in cotton wool or simply throw our hands up and accept the world as it is. Instead, we should look to put 'the brakes on an unthinking drift towards ever-greater commercialisation and sexualisation'."

Bailey's report asked for government and business to work together on initiatives such as ending the sale of inappropriately "sexy" clothing for young children, for example underwired bras and T-shirts with suggestive slogans.

However, he recommended that if retailers do not make progress on the issue they should be forced to make the changes in 18 months.


So what do you think? I think this is ridiculous myself. Kids are going to learn about sex. You can't protect them from everything. T-shirts with suggestive slogans as well? I'm 20. I'm old enough to watch porn. However, the internet is under my dads name, so basically I would have to tell my dad I watch porn and have hand parties to get it unblocked? No thanks. And also, you have to tell your ISP you watch porn, which to be honest, not something you would want to discuss down the phone with someone you have never met. I think that parents should learn how to use a computer and block this shit themselves, rather than taking an easy way out and getting the ISP's do it all. Start up computer classes, or hell, even have a piece in the news on how to block it, step by step for the people in my situation. It's the parents responsibility to know what the kids are up too on the computer, but they can't be arsed to take 10 minutes to learn how to block sites.

Do you reckon this will reach America? Do you think it will last? Do you think people will swap to smaller ISP's to save themselves the hassle of telling a random person you watch scat porn?

And before anyone says "Go get a GF". You don't just stop watching porn because you have a bird.
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10-11-2011, 11:58 AM #2
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Originally posted by xinfectedsoulx View Post
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So what do you think? I think this is ridiculous myself. Kids are going to learn about sex. You can't protect them from everything. T-shirts with suggestive slogans as well? I'm 20. I'm old enough to watch porn. However, the internet is under my dads name, so basically I would have to tell my dad I watch porn and have hand parties to get it unblocked? No thanks. And also, you have to tell your ISP you watch porn, which to be honest, not something you would want to discuss down the phone with someone you have never met. I think that parents should learn how to use a computer and block this shit themselves, rather than taking an easy way out and getting the ISP's do it all. Start up computer classes, or hell, even have a piece in the news on how to block it, step by step for the people in my situation. It's the parents responsibility to know what the kids are up too on the computer, but they can't be arsed to take 10 minutes to learn how to block sites.

Do you reckon this will reach America? Do you think it will last? Do you think people will swap to smaller ISP's to save themselves the hassle of telling a random person you watch scat porn?

And before anyone says "Go get a GF". You don't just stop watching porn because you have a bird.


Well That sucks :( TalkTalk has already launched its 'HomeSave content filtering service' but the good thing is you can enable/disable it online from here You must login or register to view this content. You must login or register to view this content.
10-11-2011, 12:07 PM #3
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... and this is the reason more people need to support people like the EFF - You must login or register to view this content. and to support net neutrality.

I'm not from the UK so it doesn't effect me personally but more than likely there will be an option on the ISP site to turn it off so if you know the account details it wouldn't matter and you can get your precious pornography :p
10-11-2011, 12:19 PM #4
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Originally posted by shawry View Post
Well That sucks :( TalkTalk has already launched its 'HomeSave content filtering service' but the good thing is you can enable/disable it online from here You must login or register to view this content. You must login or register to view this content.


I'm with TalkTalk, we don't have this though so it doesn't affect me.

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... and this is the reason more people need to support people like the EFF - You must login or register to view this content. and to support net neutrality.

I'm not from the UK so it doesn't effect me personally but more than likely there will be an option on the ISP site to turn it off so if you know the account details it wouldn't matter and you can get your precious pornography :p


I hope so Gola, just as long as no phone calls/letters come about it being turned off, haha. I think though that trying to keep kids safe but banning underwear boards and shit is too far. Kids see their mums in underwear all the time. Hell, the probably get bathed with them both at the same time. There isn't any freedom if they start to ban suggestive slogan T-shirts. It means you can't wear what you want. If you try and keep something away from people, they only want it more. It's more or less a fact. You can't drink alcohol until you're 18. So when you hit 18 and you go to town, you get wasted because you can, legally. You can't have drugs legally, so people want them more, such as weed. I reckon, because kids are being censored by this, they will turn out to be horny bastards who are always ****ing, and then the rate of STI's/STD's will increase, then government will be scratching their heads wondering why.

People want what they can't have. Fact.

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10-11-2011, 12:22 PM #5
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10-11-2011, 12:36 PM #6
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Originally posted by xinfectedsoulx View Post
I'm with TalkTalk, we don't have this though so it doesn't affect me.



I hope so Gola, just as long as no phone calls/letters come about it being turned off, haha. I think though that trying to keep kids safe but banning underwear boards and shit is too far. Kids see their mums in underwear all the time. Hell, the probably get bathed with them both at the same time. There isn't any freedom if they start to ban suggestive slogan T-shirts. It means you can't wear what you want. If you try and keep something away from people, they only want it more. It's more or less a fact. You can't drink alcohol until you're 18. So when you hit 18 and you go to town, you get wasted because you can, legally. You can't have drugs legally, so people want them more, such as weed. I reckon, because kids are being censored by this, they will turn out to be horny bastards who are always ****ing, and then the rate of STI's/STD's will increase, then government will be scratching their heads wondering why.

People want what they can't have. Fact.

Couldn't agree more with you man, people were saying the same things on another forum I was looking at.

I don't know exactly how far this gotten to but with the amount of uproar this will cause it will more than likely end up being abolished, if not straight away then eventually at least (assuming it ever gets implemented), people are already saying they'll boycott their Internet Service Provider for other ones that don't provide such restrictions. Most of the ISPs saying they're going to use it are honestly just doing it for the attention and free publicity anyway, I can just imagine how many parents will flock to them thinking it it'll prevent their child looking at porn then 6 months later the block still isn't in place yet the company has a shit load more money, then 12 months down the track it's decided that it won't be put in place at all.

Needless to say what they'll end up doing will turn out pointless due to things such as file hosting websites, torrent sites and the likes, where porn is often distributed so most people will just flock to there, and blocking sites like those would be way, way too far. Then there's proxies, VPN's and anything like that, making it possible to visit the blocked sites themselves.
10-11-2011, 12:40 PM #7
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:wtf: ? im 14 and i know most of my friends (14-16) watch porn,its no secret.imagine if your internet provider rang up your parents and said do you watch porn and they said no,its clear someone in your house is watching porn,and most parents cant use a computer.why would u want to put a kid trough that,like so what they are going to learn about sex some day.

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10-11-2011, 12:48 PM #8
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Originally posted by rhys0065 View Post
:wtf: ? im 14 and i know most of my friends (14-16) watch porn,its no secret.imagine if your internet provider rang up your parents and said do you watch porn and they said no,its clear someone in your house is watching porn,and most parents cant use a computer.why would u want to put a kid trough that,like so what they are going to learn about sex some day.


Sounds more like a sick prank call to me :megusta:
'Mam we're from BT, do you watch porn?' :lol:

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10-11-2011, 01:03 PM #9
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Originally posted by Cammmmy View Post
Sounds more like a sick prank call to me :megusta:
'Mam we're from BT, do you watch porn?' :lol:
ha no i didnt mean for them just to say that straight away,that would just be awkward :p
10-11-2011, 02:07 PM #10
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I can see it approaching America, but us Americans will stop it. Aint no way we'll let that happen.

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