Post: Republican Vs Democrat
10-27-2011, 10:36 PM #1
GE90
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I am a Republican.
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10-28-2011, 12:46 AM #2
Republican all the way
10-28-2011, 06:34 AM #3
As I don't live in the US, I cannot say either of them, but I support Social Democracy; You must login or register to view this content..
inb4 someone says it socialism.
10-28-2011, 10:33 AM #4
Booshykins
Tech Enthusiast
Conservatism isn't necessarily interchangeable with Republicanism.

That being said, socially I'm more in tune with libertarianism, as anarchism isn't exactly a likelihood, and I don't know enough about economics to consider myself anything in that respect. I suppose my deepest beliefs would fall in line with those of an anarcho-communist. I should say in a perfect world, I would be an anarcho-communist. (Implying that I know better than to think such a society would ever exist without interference in our world as it is today.)

As things are, and as I understand things, Libertarianism/Anti-authoritarianism is more-or-less my social/political stance. There's a fine line between authority and leadership.

Edit: Upon further reading about economic stances, it appears my views are most relative to socialism.

My father is Conservative, so this should be fun.
10-28-2011, 10:59 AM #5
Adam West
git muny
I think a two party system in the US is a complete joke.
But since I don't live in the US i see myself as a Liberal
10-28-2011, 12:30 PM #6
Booshykins
Tech Enthusiast
Originally posted by Adam
I think a two party system in the US is a complete joke.
But since I don't live in the US i see myself as a Liberal


There are more than two parties in the US, but Democrats and Republicans make up most of the country.
10-28-2011, 02:37 PM #7
TornadoCreator
A Storm Approaches.
Hmmm, let me think...

Republican... ie. Right Wing Authoritarian Capitalism verging on a Christian Theocracy.
Democrat... ie. Slightly Less Right Wing Authoritarian Capitalism with strong Christian undertones.

I'd have to say the lesser of the two evils is Democrat but they're practically the same party as far as I'm concerned. I'm a Socialist have been for about 4 years now, although politically I've considered other parties and positions. I voted Liberal Democrats (UK) last election as the Socialist Party wasn't standing in my constituency but I consider them not quite socialist enough for my tastes and much too in favour of the "nanny state". Still they're the better party for UK I feel. That said, even the Conservative party in UK is more desirable than either of the two US parties (the other US parties get less than 2% of the vote and as such effectively don't count for shit). I'm no fan of the Conservatives, but at least they support Universal Healthcare and are largely secular.

To be honest, and I mean no disrespect to you GE90, but asking "Republican or Democrat" shows a fundamental lack of understanding of politics and an extremely blinkered view. You've basically made a poll saying "What's your favourite colour, Sky Blue or Royal Blue?" complete with a poll that gives the following choices, "Sky Blue, Royal Blue, Some other kind of blue, I don't like colour", seemingly blissfully unaware that some people don't like blue... maybe they like Green, Red or Yellow... who knows, but with your USA based political upbringing, a country with Conservative Authoritarian Capitalism with minor differences as the only choice, I'm not surprised that you see politics this way.


Originally posted by Verbosity View Post
Conservatism isn't necessarily interchangeable with Republicanism.

That being said, socially I'm more in tune with libertarianism, as anarchism isn't exactly a likelihood, and I don't know enough about economics to consider myself anything in that respect. I suppose my deepest beliefs would fall in line with those of an anarcho-communist. I should say in a perfect world, I would be an anarcho-communist. (Implying that I know better than to think such a society would ever exist without interference in our world as it is today.)

As things are, and as I understand things, Libertarianism/Anti-authoritarianism is more-or-less my social/political stance. There's a fine line between authority and leadership.

Edit: Upon further reading about economic stances, it appears my views are most relative to socialism.

My father is Conservative, so this should be fun.


We seem to have similar political opinions.

I would claim, technically to be a Socialist Libertarian myself. I feel things like the right to free speech, freedom of religion (and by extension freedom from religion), freedom of the press, the right to free expression, the right to protest, the right of personal liberty (ie. legal drugs, legal prostitution, etc). The government has no right to tell us what to do with our lives, what to put in our bodies, what we can put our genitals in, or what religious practices are acceptable. That said, financially I say Libertarianism is a foolish and fundamentally flawed system as the "company" as an entity is greedy, callous, and cares only about growing and amassing wealth. Without regulation companies will become too powerful as they are now in Wall St. Basically, I'm of the opinion that companies should NOT benefit from the same rights as people, that government should collect tax from both people and businesses and by use of the adage "some things are greater than the some of their parts", do what the people individually could not do. Provide healthcare, housing, food, education and transportation for everyone for FREE (they've already paid for it with tax). Provide all people with the protection of a standing army, police, firefighters and lifeguard, and to provide an ambulance service to work along side the healthcare system. A progressive tax, where the rich pay a higher percentage keeps the system fairer as those who cannot afford high tax pay a lesser amount. Those without a job or unable to work are given a welfare system to support themselves, and active help to find a job and/or training to gain their dignity (rather than using the welfare tax fund to pay for needless bureaucracy to try and "catch them out" claiming benefits fraudulently, just spend the money finding them jobs and they won't need the benefit will they). This balance between socialism and libertarian social ideals is my personal ideal political party. For some reason however there doesn't appear to be a unified party with my opinions.
10-28-2011, 03:03 PM #8
GE90
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Originally posted by TornadoCreator View Post
Hmmm, let me think...

Republican... ie. Right Wing Authoritarian Capitalism verging on a Christian Theocracy.
Democrat... ie. Slightly Less Right Wing Authoritarian Capitalism with strong Christian undertones.

I'd have to say the lesser of the two evils is Democrat but they're practically the same party as far as I'm concerned. I'm a Socialist have been for about 4 years now, although politically I've considered other parties and positions. I voted Liberal Democrats (UK) last election as the Socialist Party wasn't standing in my constituency but I consider them not quite socialist enough for my tastes and much too in favour of the "nanny state". Still they're the better party for UK I feel. That said, even the Conservative party in UK is more desirable than either of the two US parties (the other US parties get less than 2% of the vote and as such effectively don't count for shit). I'm no fan of the Conservatives, but at least they support Universal Healthcare and are largely secular.

To be honest, and I mean no disrespect to you GE90, but asking "Republican or Democrat" shows a fundamental lack of understanding of politics and an extremely blinkered view. You've basically made a poll saying "What's your favourite colour, Sky Blue or Royal Blue?" complete with a poll that gives the following choices, "Sky Blue, Royal Blue, Some other kind of blue, I don't like colour", seemingly blissfully unaware that some people don't like blue... maybe they like Green, Red or Yellow... who knows, but with your USA based political upbringing, a country with Conservative Authoritarian Capitalism with minor differences as the only choice, I'm not surprised that you see politics this way.




We seem to have similar political opinions.

I would claim, technically to be a Socialist Libertarian myself. I feel things like the right to free speech, freedom of religion (and by extension freedom from religion), freedom of the press, the right to free expression, the right to protest, the right of personal liberty (ie. legal drugs, legal prostitution, etc). The government has no right to tell us what to do with our lives, what to put in our bodies, what we can put our genitals in, or what religious practices are acceptable. That said, financially I say Libertarianism is a foolish and fundamentally flawed system as the "company" as an entity is greedy, callous, and cares only about growing and amassing wealth. Without regulation companies will become too powerful as they are now in Wall St. Basically, I'm of the opinion that companies should NOT benefit from the same rights as people, that government should collect tax from both people and businesses and by use of the adage "some things are greater than the some of their parts", do what the people individually could not do. Provide healthcare, housing, food, education and transportation for everyone for FREE (they've already paid for it with tax). Provide all people with the protection of a standing army, police, firefighters and lifeguard, and to provide an ambulance service to work along side the healthcare system. A progressive tax, where the rich pay a higher percentage keeps the system fairer as those who cannot afford high tax pay a lesser amount. Those without a job or unable to work are given a welfare system to support themselves, and active help to find a job and/or training to gain their dignity (rather than using the welfare tax fund to pay for needless bureaucracy to try and "catch them out" claiming benefits fraudulently, just spend the money finding them jobs and they won't need the benefit will they). This balance between socialism and libertarian social ideals is my personal ideal political party. For some reason however there doesn't appear to be a unified party with my opinions.
I don't really care to know someones actual views, I'm just doing a survey to see which party is more popular here.

---------- Post added at 11:03 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:02 AM ----------

Originally posted by TornadoCreator View Post
Hmmm, let me think...

Republican... ie. Right Wing Authoritarian Capitalism verging on a Christian Theocracy.
Democrat... ie. Slightly Less Right Wing Authoritarian Capitalism with strong Christian undertones.

I'd have to say the lesser of the two evils is Democrat but they're practically the same party as far as I'm concerned. I'm a Socialist have been for about 4 years now, although politically I've considered other parties and positions. I voted Liberal Democrats (UK) last election as the Socialist Party wasn't standing in my constituency but I consider them not quite socialist enough for my tastes and much too in favour of the "nanny state". Still they're the better party for UK I feel. That said, even the Conservative party in UK is more desirable than either of the two US parties (the other US parties get less than 2% of the vote and as such effectively don't count for shit). I'm no fan of the Conservatives, but at least they support Universal Healthcare and are largely secular.

To be honest, and I mean no disrespect to you GE90, but asking "Republican or Democrat" shows a fundamental lack of understanding of politics and an extremely blinkered view. You've basically made a poll saying "What's your favourite colour, Sky Blue or Royal Blue?" complete with a poll that gives the following choices, "Sky Blue, Royal Blue, Some other kind of blue, I don't like colour", seemingly blissfully unaware that some people don't like blue... maybe they like Green, Red or Yellow... who knows, but with your USA based political upbringing, a country with Conservative Authoritarian Capitalism with minor differences as the only choice, I'm not surprised that you see politics this way.




We seem to have similar political opinions.

I would claim, technically to be a Socialist Libertarian myself. I feel things like the right to free speech, freedom of religion (and by extension freedom from religion), freedom of the press, the right to free expression, the right to protest, the right of personal liberty (ie. legal drugs, legal prostitution, etc). The government has no right to tell us what to do with our lives, what to put in our bodies, what we can put our genitals in, or what religious practices are acceptable. That said, financially I say Libertarianism is a foolish and fundamentally flawed system as the "company" as an entity is greedy, callous, and cares only about growing and amassing wealth. Without regulation companies will become too powerful as they are now in Wall St. Basically, I'm of the opinion that companies should NOT benefit from the same rights as people, that government should collect tax from both people and businesses and by use of the adage "some things are greater than the some of their parts", do what the people individually could not do. Provide healthcare, housing, food, education and transportation for everyone for FREE (they've already paid for it with tax). Provide all people with the protection of a standing army, police, firefighters and lifeguard, and to provide an ambulance service to work along side the healthcare system. A progressive tax, where the rich pay a higher percentage keeps the system fairer as those who cannot afford high tax pay a lesser amount. Those without a job or unable to work are given a welfare system to support themselves, and active help to find a job and/or training to gain their dignity (rather than using the welfare tax fund to pay for needless bureaucracy to try and "catch them out" claiming benefits fraudulently, just spend the money finding them jobs and they won't need the benefit will they). This balance between socialism and libertarian social ideals is my personal ideal political party. For some reason however there doesn't appear to be a unified party with my opinions.
But i see where you are coming from on this and I respect you for that.
10-28-2011, 03:22 PM #9
TornadoCreator
A Storm Approaches.
Originally posted by GE90 View Post
I don't really care to know someones actual views, I'm just doing a survey to see which party is more popular here.


...and this is precisely why the Debate section should not have been merged with "General Polls". They're not even close to the same thing.

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10-29-2011, 02:05 AM #10
Booshykins
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Originally posted by TornadoCreator View Post
Hmmm, let me think...

Republican... ie. Right Wing Authoritarian Capitalism verging on a Christian Theocracy.
Democrat... ie. Slightly Less Right Wing Authoritarian Capitalism with strong Christian undertones.

I'd have to say the lesser of the two evils is Democrat but they're practically the same party as far as I'm concerned. I'm a Socialist have been for about 4 years now, although politically I've considered other parties and positions. I voted Liberal Democrats (UK) last election as the Socialist Party wasn't standing in my constituency but I consider them not quite socialist enough for my tastes and much too in favour of the "nanny state". Still they're the better party for UK I feel. That said, even the Conservative party in UK is more desirable than either of the two US parties (the other US parties get less than 2% of the vote and as such effectively don't count for shit). I'm no fan of the Conservatives, but at least they support Universal Healthcare and are largely secular.

To be honest, and I mean no disrespect to you GE90, but asking "Republican or Democrat" shows a fundamental lack of understanding of politics and an extremely blinkered view. You've basically made a poll saying "What's your favourite colour, Sky Blue or Royal Blue?" complete with a poll that gives the following choices, "Sky Blue, Royal Blue, Some other kind of blue, I don't like colour", seemingly blissfully unaware that some people don't like blue... maybe they like Green, Red or Yellow... who knows, but with your USA based political upbringing, a country with Conservative Authoritarian Capitalism with minor differences as the only choice, I'm not surprised that you see politics this way.




We seem to have similar political opinions.

I would claim, technically to be a Socialist Libertarian myself. I feel things like the right to free speech, freedom of religion (and by extension freedom from religion), freedom of the press, the right to free expression, the right to protest, the right of personal liberty (ie. legal drugs, legal prostitution, etc). The government has no right to tell us what to do with our lives, what to put in our bodies, what we can put our genitals in, or what religious practices are acceptable. That said, financially I say Libertarianism is a foolish and fundamentally flawed system as the "company" as an entity is greedy, callous, and cares only about growing and amassing wealth. Without regulation companies will become too powerful as they are now in Wall St. Basically, I'm of the opinion that companies should NOT benefit from the same rights as people, that government should collect tax from both people and businesses and by use of the adage "some things are greater than the some of their parts", do what the people individually could not do. Provide healthcare, housing, food, education and transportation for everyone for FREE (they've already paid for it with tax). Provide all people with the protection of a standing army, police, firefighters and lifeguard, and to provide an ambulance service to work along side the healthcare system. A progressive tax, where the rich pay a higher percentage keeps the system fairer as those who cannot afford high tax pay a lesser amount. Those without a job or unable to work are given a welfare system to support themselves, and active help to find a job and/or training to gain their dignity (rather than using the welfare tax fund to pay for needless bureaucracy to try and "catch them out" claiming benefits fraudulently, just spend the money finding them jobs and they won't need the benefit will they). This balance between socialism and libertarian social ideals is my personal ideal political party. For some reason however there doesn't appear to be a unified party with my opinions.


First, congratulations on landing on the media team. :y:

My stances on economics and society have changed drastically over the past few years. I believe it was Marx's slogan "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" that compelled me to actively develop opinions relative to our financial status and social stigmas. Albeit I am only 16, and am growing up in a country where even mentioning communism causes an uproar, I've somehow dodged all of it. I consider myself fortunate to have done so. Instead of considering what the text books and media states to be the undeniable truth, I take it upon myself to learn what is actually happening or what actually has happened, then develop my opinions from there.

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