Post: Norway Shooter Gets 21 years in Prison - Is this enough punishment?
01-01-2012, 10:49 PM #1
SantaClawZ
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Also, consider the fact that Norwegian prisons are far more luxurious than American prisons.
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01-12-2012, 09:50 PM #20
SantaClawZ
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One reason U.S. prisons are crowded is because of "victimless crimes" such as gambling, drug use, and prostitution. Although there isn't a second party harmed by the action, they are punished.
01-14-2012, 03:32 PM #21
I agree with TC. Every human has a chance to change that's why we have rehabilitation.

Also: "Capital punishment is the worst violation of human rights, because the right to life is the most important right."
01-14-2012, 11:50 PM #22
WhoIsBrandon
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He deserves the death penalty.
01-16-2012, 12:41 PM #23
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Originally posted by SantaClawZ View Post
The Norway shooter who killed many people was given 21 years in prison. What are your opinions on the matter?

Also, consider the fact that Norwegian prisons are far more luxurious than American prisons.


The trials not even started yet, they are still looking at his mental state and if he is even fit to stand trial. Hes not been given anything.

As for Norwegian prisons, they tend to have 1/3 the recidivism rate of the US ones.

Originally posted by TornadoCreator View Post
21 years is the maximum sentence you can recieve for any crime in Norway. In Norway they consider life sentences to be ultimately useless as they claim that it does not reabilitate the person. While it may seem unfair that he will get out of prison, remember Norway also has one of the lowest crime rates in the world, one of the lowest prison populations in the world, and the lowest repeat offense rate in the world, and they do it by re-educating and reabilitating their prisoners rather than focusing on making sure they've been sufficiently punished.


Hardly. Anyone who is considered a danger to society and at high risk of reoffending is given a detention sentence, which means at the end of their sentence, they get a hearing. And then one every five years after that. They are not released until they are considered to no longer be a risk. Incidentally, the first year of the detention sentence is seved at Ila, the maximum security facility. To actually get moved to a better prison at the end of the first year, you have to have mixed peacefully with your fellow inmates. This guys odds of surviving extended mixing with the other inmates is slim.
01-16-2012, 03:38 PM #24
TornadoCreator
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Originally posted by Grum View Post
Hardly. Anyone who is considered a danger to society and at high risk of reoffending is given a detention sentence, which means at the end of their sentence, they get a hearing. And then one every five years after that. They are not released until they are considered to no longer be a risk. Incidentally, the first year of the detention sentence is seved at Ila, the maximum security facility. To actually get moved to a better prison at the end of the first year, you have to have mixed peacefully with your fellow inmates. This guys odds of surviving extended mixing with the other inmates is slim.

Yes, if they are deemed dangerous they are kept longer than their sentence, as they should be. However that's not a case of punishing the inmate it's to protect the public and therefore justified. Technically if someone is clearly insane they could spend their entire life in a psychiatric prison but the longest sentence Norway hands out is 21 years (as far as I know).
01-16-2012, 08:37 PM #25
SantaClawZ
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Originally posted by Grum View Post
The trials not even started yet, they are still looking at his mental state and if he is even fit to stand trial. Hes not been given anything.

As for Norwegian prisons, they tend to have 1/3 the recidivism rate of the US ones.



Hardly. Anyone who is considered a danger to society and at high risk of reoffending is given a detention sentence, which means at the end of their sentence, they get a hearing. And then one every five years after that. They are not released until they are considered to no longer be a risk. Incidentally, the first year of the detention sentence is seved at Ila, the maximum security facility. To actually get moved to a better prison at the end of the first year, you have to have mixed peacefully with your fellow inmates. This guys odds of surviving extended mixing with the other inmates is slim.


This is probably the only intelligent first post I've ever seen. Keep up the good work! :p

And I'm not sure how the Norwegian Criminal Justice system works - assuming it is similar to the USA's I should have said "charged" instead of "given"
01-17-2012, 06:40 PM #26
I think this is fair because people can always change, although sometimes people don't it is still possible and everybody deserves a chance.

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