Post: Norway Shooter Gets 21 years in Prison - Is this enough punishment?
01-01-2012, 10:49 PM #1
SantaClawZ
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Also, consider the fact that Norwegian prisons are far more luxurious than American prisons.
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01-01-2012, 10:56 PM #2
Lopez.
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How did he not get life sentence ?
01-01-2012, 10:58 PM #3
SantaClawZ
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That's a good question for the Norwegian government, not me. I really don't understand how someone could give him such a light sentence for something like that.
01-01-2012, 11:27 PM #4
Cam Newton.
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Originally posted by SantaClawZ View Post
The Norway shooter who killed many people was given 21 years in prison. What are your opinions on the matter?

Also, consider the fact that Norwegian prisons are far more luxurious than American prisons.


If you take a human beings life, you own should be taken.
01-01-2012, 11:30 PM #5
He should be killed in the most painful way if you take a humans life you dont deserve to be alive
01-02-2012, 12:01 AM #6
TheDeathMachine
Do a barrel roll!
he should be locked up till he dies
01-02-2012, 01:01 AM #7
If he's not going to get a death penalty then he should have got life. 21 years is appalling.
01-02-2012, 07:01 AM #8
TornadoCreator
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Originally posted by eXo
How did he not get life sentence ?


Originally posted by Clutch
If he's not going to get a death penalty then he should have got life. 21 years is appalling.


21 years is the maximum sentence you can recieve for any crime in Norway. In Norway they consider life sentences to be ultimately useless as they claim that it does not reabilitate the person. While it may seem unfair that he will get out of prison, remember Norway also has one of the lowest crime rates in the world, one of the lowest prison populations in the world, and the lowest repeat offense rate in the world, and they do it by re-educating and reabilitating their prisoners rather than focusing on making sure they've been sufficiently punished.
01-02-2012, 07:11 AM #9
Just4Hax
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Originally posted by TornadoCreator View Post
21 years is the maximum sentence you can recieve for any crime in Norway. In Norway they consider life sentences to be ultimately useless as they claim that it does not reabilitate the person. While it may seem unfair that he will get out of prison, remember Norway also has one of the lowest crime rates in the world, one of the lowest prison populations in the world, and the lowest repeat offense rate in the world, and they do it by re-educating and reabilitating their prisoners rather than focusing on making sure they've been sufficiently punished.

True, but to those who attempt to live off a more "justice", this seems insane and "immoral"
01-02-2012, 07:43 AM #10
TornadoCreator
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Originally posted by Just4Hax View Post
True, but to those who attempt to live off a more "justice", this seems insane and "immoral"


I will happily admit, the emotional side of me is upset by the idea. If someone had raped, maimed or killed a member of my family for example, I'd want them tortured and killed in a gruesome way because I'd want vengence. It would seem ultimately unfair to let that person have anything ever again after what they took away.... however entirely rational me has to be rational.

If we're honest, after about 10 years, no-one is the same as they where. The "me" from 10 years ago is a very different person than the "me" of today. Do I think this is the same for prisoners, sure. With proper re-education programs, logically speaking I do agree that someone who went into a prison as a raging psycho could come out a productive member of society and if you look at the crime statistics in Norway... well they do. Now, do I have an emotional objection? Yes. But it's because I'm wanting vengence, not justice.

If we look at statistics across Europe and USA you'll see that the more severe a prison sentence and the less focused on reabilitation the prison system is, the higher the crime rate. Hell, the crime rate is the highest in states such as Louisiana and Texas yet they have the death penalty. So it doesn't work as a deterrent either.

From a more utilitarian point of view as well, having lower prison sentences and a system where less crime in commit for whatever reason, means the prison system costs less tax to run, so in that respect it's fairer for the Norwiegian people.

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