Post: Teen kills bully
01-07-2012, 12:33 AM #1
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Fifteen-year-old Jorge Saavedra was facing a second-degree murder charge in the death of Dylan Nuno, 16, after a judge ruled the boy's action against a bully amounted to self-defense, naplesnews.com reports.

(Collier County Circuit Judge Lauren) Brodie based her decision this week on the findings from a two-day December hearing, during which students who witnessed the events Jan. 24, 2011, testified that several teens announced the fight on the bus, and Saavedra got off several stops early in Golden Gate Estates. ...

In a nine-page document released Tuesday by the State Attorney's Office, Brodie stated that by getting off the bus several stops before the location where the fight was to happen, Saavedra "demonstrated that, with or without a knife, (he) had no desire to fight with Dylan Nuno."

According to testimony, Nuno, a junior, followed Saavedra, a freshman, off the bus and punched him in the back of the head. Saavedra tried to get away.

He then stabbed Dylan Nuno 12 times in the chest and abdomen. Two of the blows caused fatal wounds, including one that nicked his heart.


I think this is a very good subject (bullying) and that it isn't funny to pick on people. The Columbine High School Massacre was caused by bullying... And many other school shootings. The bully didn't deserve to die.. But I don't feel bad for him. If you're gonna pick on/harass somebody, don't expect anything good to come out of it. A lot of people pick on people they don't really know. Everybody has limits, and sometimes that limit gets reached very fast. It's like you're poking an alligator with a stick.. It will eventually bite back!

Please tell me what you guys think about this.. Murder is a big deal, do you think what he did was right? Or was it over the limit? Did you ever experience bullying, or witnessed it? Thanks.

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01-07-2012, 12:30 PM #20
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Originally posted by Mr.Kane View Post
Im not a religious person, so i wont be using any religious views in my response.

He killed someone in self defense (what is being said anyway), yes it was taken too far but I think that this kid may of thought it was a him or me situation.

If you had a situation when you thought it was either going to be you or the other person not leaving afterwards you would kill them (only if it was a fight of course) and i dont want to hear people say thye wouldnt cause trust me, it might not be your intention, you might not even start the fight in this situaion but once its started it will be finished one way or another.


This kid will more than likely be scared for the rest of his life due to this, i'd say that is punishment enough for defending yourself. Not to mention people may not want to go anywhere near him at school now, so has the problem actually been solved by this bully dying? for many yes but for this poor kid who killed him, i'd say the problem hasnt gone away at all, just changed.


I'm sure everybody felt like they've wanted to kill somebody before... Of course you aren't going to because you're mature enough to think about the consequences... But there's that intense rage for a few minutes, hours, maybe days depending on who you are, and this kid let his emotions control him. He might have thought it out, but obviously not seriously. Maybe he actually got bullied so bad, that he was close to those suicidal actions, and he has nothing to lose, so why not get revenge. The urge of revenge and regret gets in the way of many people's lives, but this guy just couldn't manage it..
01-07-2012, 02:40 PM #21
Originally posted by STVBDKD View Post
Wow when I saw that the kid didn't get no jail time I said to my self wow that judge must been payed off by some rich parents or lawers because in reality the kid should have gone to jail thats straight m,murder I don't care if it was a bully or not my belief is Exodus 20:13


“You shall not kill

Actually the word used is "murder" not "kill" (also depends on the translation you're looking at but generally it's accepted as being murder). So then comes the debate between the differences of killing and murdering. I don't believe the teen murdered the bully, he acted in a matter of self defense in which he ultimately ended up killing his attacker.

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01-07-2012, 04:32 PM #22
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Originally posted by STVBDKD View Post
Wow when I saw that the kid didn't get no jail time I said to my self wow that judge must been payed off by some rich parents or lawers because in reality the kid should have gone to jail thats straight m,murder I don't care if it was a bully or not my belief is Exodus 20:13


“You shall not kill

He was defending himself. I am not going to get my ass kicked by some fucking prick of an asshole. I'm going to defend myself and if I am being picked on by a person who is potentially threatening my life, I will use that knife to disable em, maybe not stab him 12 times in the chest, but who knows what the other kid could have been doing. Maybe the other kid was still going after him. You must look at all the possibilities before classifying someone as a murderer.
01-07-2012, 05:13 PM #23
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I still think its not right to me its wrong the kid should have went to the teacher or any staff worker thats the smart way
01-07-2012, 05:59 PM #24
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I don't know anyone who could stab someone more than twice and keep going, let alone eleven times and still have the desire to poke him one more. I understand that the bully got what was coming to him, and the kid probably saved him a more painful death when he was twenty and got his head cut off for messing with the wrong people. Still, the kid might have something wrong with him if he had enough rage to stab him TWELVE times.

I agree with the judge, though. Self-defense. Definitely.
01-07-2012, 06:19 PM #25
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I agree with the judge, it was in self-defense and seams like the kid just couldn't take anymore. Bout time someone stepped up, maybe not this drastic though.
01-08-2012, 03:01 PM #26
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I don't think no one here has been in that situation before of stabbing someone. Maybe he only intended to do once, but who knows what goes through your mind when you're sticking it to someone who has been bullying you for however long. He's not a trained killer, so he doesn't know how to handle situations like that and his body probably just took over. As someone said, he will be scarred for a long time from this, especially if he didn't intend to stab him 12 times to death. People might like him for getting rid of a bully, but people might not go near him due to fear of him doing it again. Maybe he needs a mental evaluation to see if he is mentally ill, or if it was just due to self defence. If he's not ill, then I'd say it's self defence. If he's ill, he needs to be taken away due to the fact he's no stable and could do it again.
01-08-2012, 03:14 PM #27
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It's a good thing he stood up the the bully, and it must have been pretty bad to get to the point where you take a knife to school just to defence yourself, but killing another living being, is not a good thing, and just because you're being bullied, it doesn't justify it imo.

Besides that, the 14 year old kid has to grow up knowing he has taken another mans life, people who server in the armed forces sometimes can't handle this, and have breakdowns, so imagine what it's going to be like for someone that young.
01-08-2012, 04:01 PM #28
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He should have gotten jail time, there comes a time in a fight where it's no longer self defense and he reached that point. While stabbing the bully he definitely fell on the floor or was incapacitated, after a couple stabs he was no longer a threat to him and he continued stabbing. That was no longer self defense and that was our primal instinct of flight or fight taking over.

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