Post: Teenage Sex, a sticky situation.
02-11-2012, 06:40 PM #1
i--DanieL_
Edgier than an octagon
(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Well I felt the need to write this thread because it probably applies to most of us here and recently someone in my area got in trouble for having sex with someone underage. It was on his eighteenth birthday and he was out with his girlfriend, she's fourteen (I know right, gag central). He was going out with his GF for a long time and from what I hear he genuinely loved her, lets just assume he did. They were out drinking and went back to the GF's house and one thing led to another and they ended up having sex. During sex the GF's mother walked in and caught them and she wasn't impressed to say the least! The mother immediately rang the police and reported the BF as a rapist (it's technically statutory rape as anyone under 17 in Ireland cannot give sexual consent). To make matters worse the mother is forcing the GF to say her boyfriend had sex against her will, which was untrue as far as I know.

So how would you feel in this situation? Try to focus on all sides of the story. How would you feel as the boyfriend, more than likely about to face a jail sentence, your name on a sex offenders register and a break-up with the girl you love (the break-up is what I predict will happen).

How would you feel as the girlfriend? You're about to lose the person you love for a long time, probably forced not to see them again and being put under huge amounts of pressure to lie in court.

How would you feel as the girlfriend's mother? You just caught your little baby in bed with someone far older than her, you have the power to make his life a misery, does he really deserve that?

How would you feel as the boyfriend's parents? Your son is just eighteen, his life is only beginning and now he is abut to be weighed down. Would you try and get him out of the country, would you threaten the girlfriend's mother?

It's quite a sticky situation and for all of you who think the law is the law so let him have it here is something else to consider. Nature intends us to be sexually active at a young age(from when girls have their first periods and boys can produce sperm), that's a fact you can't ignore. Can you blame these two horny, drunk teens for having sex when every fiber of their bodies is telling them to, after all they are in love.

I think we can get a good debate going on this, there are a lot of things to consider and this situation will apply to most of us so let me know how you feel.

EDIT: By the way, don't just reply to this situation, how do you feel about underage sex in general? Does age really matter when you're in love? Have you had underage sex and did it have a negative or positive effect on your life? Just no more fĂșcking discussions on whether god is real or not (unless they are somewhat intelligent and add to the thread in some way). Kthanx.

-My reply to Needa, it may tie up some loose ends:
Originally posted by another user
Sorry Needa but most of those questions are going to have to stay unanswered because I don't know the people involved personally, I don't even know anyone who knows them personally to be honest. I just thought this was an interesting subject that would get a bit of a discussion going, you would be surprised how often this kind of thing happens, in Ireland at least.

Anyways on to your questions, I believe they were together for two/three months. I'm not sure if this was their first time having sex with one another, I think the boyfriend had sex before but I'm not sure about the girlfriend. I really can't tell you if the mother was trying to break them up before this, I can tell you, though, that the boyfriend is a bit of an asshole.

As for the middle schooler and high schooler thing they were both in the same school. In Ireland teens from the ages 12-18 go to the same secondary level school, I understand that as an American this might seem odd but that's just the system we have. How did they meet? Your guess is as good as mine, maybe a poke on facebook lead to a conversation and an exchanging of numbers, maybe a friend introduced them, to be honest I don't think it's that relevant to the situation but I can see why you find the story questionable with my hazy details. I'll try to find out more but don't hold your breath.

She isn't claiming physical rape, the mother is forcing her to. The mother obviously wasn't happy seeing her daughter growing up too quick so she just wants the boyfriend to be gone as long as possible, which is understandable. Although it's extremely unfair and dishonest because, as far as I know, the girlfriend intended to have sex.

I would definitely agree with your last statement but when you're young, drunk and in love it's hard to think clearly. Teens do stupid and impulsive things all the time so saying that the boyfriend was exceptionally stupid would be unfair I think.
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02-14-2012, 01:16 PM #20
NeedaLifeSoon
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This story has to many unanswered questions.
How long had their relationship lasted?
Did they have sex before this incident?
Had the mother been trying to break this relationship before this?

It's a little odd for a high school senior to be dating a a middle schooler.
How did they meet? Why is the girl claiming physical rape now, if she was in love?

The whole thing sounds questionable to me.

And don't put your trust in a 14yr old girl who can put you in jail.
02-14-2012, 04:42 PM #21
Originally posted by Fire. View Post
Dude, I'm 14. I don't give a crap what other people think. I have an opinion and you can't flaw it. Will see after we die who is right. So okay, good day.


1) I was 14 only 2 years ago, it doesn't make you exempt from criticism.
2) If you don't care what others think then why post in the debating section?
3) It is flawed and I showed rather simply how. Just because someone holds an opinion it doesn't make said opinion flawless.
4) Yeah, sure... on the off-chance there is some sort of afterlife, you can have a laugh at me about it(I say off-chance as this particular debate was won by the atheists years ago). And if there is nothing else, which is what all the evidence shows, then we can both just not exist. What a great argument you just made. Really, back up your beliefs or get lost.
02-14-2012, 04:46 PM #22
Fire.
Im a fed.
Originally posted by Clutch
1) I was 14 only 2 years ago, it doesn't make you exempt from criticism.
2) If you don't care what others think then why post in the debating section?
3) It is flawed and I showed rather simply how. Just because someone holds an opinion it doesn't make said opinion flawless.
4) Yeah, sure... on the off-chance there is some sort of afterlife, you can have a laugh at me about it(I say off-chance as this particular debate was won by the atheists years ago). And if there is nothing else, which is what all the evidence shows, then we can both just not exist. What a great argument you just made. Really, back up your beliefs or get lost.

Okay, first of all, I didn't know this was the debate session, someone posted this in the SB and I clicked. And religion isn't a debate. You can't debate it because there is NO PROOF of the afterlife existing or not. There is no proof of God existing or not. It's a belief, faith. How do you even think the world came into existence?
02-14-2012, 05:11 PM #23
Originally posted by Fire. View Post
I don't believe what either of them did was right. I believe in sex after marriage.


What happens if after you marry her, you find out she has BlueWaffle?

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02-14-2012, 05:12 PM #24
Fire.
Im a fed.
Originally posted by FlyingIrishMan View Post
What happens if after you marry her, you find out she has BlueWaffle?

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02-14-2012, 05:37 PM #25
Originally posted by Fire. View Post
Okay, first of all, I didn't know this was the debate session, someone posted this in the SB and I clicked.


Okay, well now you know. Back up your beliefs or leave.

Originally posted by another user
And religion isn't a debate.


Given how many people in the world are religious, I'd say it is up for debate.

Originally posted by another user
You can't debate it because there is NO PROOF of the afterlife existing or not. There is no proof of God existing or not. It's a belief, faith.


It's faith that can be chiseled down and removed through reason and logic, which you will find in a debate. At the very least you can still debate whether faith is a positive thing or not to possess in something.

Originally posted by another user
How do you even think the world came into existence?


The earth's existence can be explained extremely easily. A more interesting question would be how the universe came to be as that is something that science isn't quite set on yet. Still, modern physics and cosmology tell us a lot. The Bible, Quran and whatever other religious text you have misguided faith in tells us nothing.
02-14-2012, 05:41 PM #26
Fire.
Im a fed.
Originally posted by Clutch

The earth's existence can be explained extremely easily. A more interesting question would be how the universe came to be as that is something that science isn't quite set on yet. Still, modern physics and cosmology tell us a lot. The Bible, Quran and whatever other religious text you have misguided faith in tells us nothing.

Mmkay, and how was it created.
02-14-2012, 06:29 PM #27
Originally posted by Fire. View Post
Mmkay, and how was it created.


I can already see where you're going with this so I'll make 3 simple statements to save some time.

1) Not everything requires a creator. This is quite an in-depth argument but it has been refuted perfectly well many times.
2) Therefore logically neither God nor the universe ultimately need to have had a creator.
3) There are very strong scientific theories surrounding how the universe began backed up by empirical evidence. There is however as little proof for God as there is for the existence of unicorns, leprechauns or the flying spaghetti monster.
02-14-2012, 07:33 PM #28
i--DanieL_
Edgier than an octagon
Originally posted by NeedaLifeSoon View Post
This story has to many unanswered questions.
How long had their relationship lasted?
Did they have sex before this incident?
Had the mother been trying to break this relationship before this?

It's a little odd for a high school senior to be dating a a middle schooler.
How did they meet? Why is the girl claiming physical rape now, if she was in love?

The whole thing sounds questionable to me.

And don't put your trust in a 14yr old girl who can put you in jail.


Sorry Needa but most of those questions are going to have to stay unanswered because I don't know the people involved personally, I don't even know anyone who knows them personally to be honest. I just thought this was an interesting subject that would get a bit of a discussion going, you would be surprised how often this kind of thing happens, in Ireland at least.

Anyways on to your questions, I believe they were together for two/three months. I'm not sure if this was their first time having sex with one another, I think the boyfriend had sex before but I'm not sure about the girlfriend. I really can't tell you if the mother was trying to break them up before this, I can tell you, though, that the boyfriend is a bit of an asshole.

As for the middle schooler and high schooler thing they were both in the same school. In Ireland teens from the ages 12-18 go to the same secondary level school, I understand that as an American this might seem odd but that's just the system we have. How did they meet? Your guess is as good as mine, maybe a poke on facebook lead to a conversation and an exchanging of numbers, maybe a friend introduced them, to be honest I don't think it's that relevant to the situation but I can see why you find the story questionable with my hazy details. I'll try to find out more but don't hold your breath.

She isn't claiming physical rape, the mother is forcing her to. The mother obviously wasn't happy seeing her daughter growing up too quick so she just wants the boyfriend to be gone as long as possible, which is understandable. Although it's extremely unfair and dishonest because, as far as I know, the girlfriend intended to have sex.

I would definitely agree with your last statement but when you're young, drunk and in love it's hard to think clearly. Teens do stupid and impulsive things all the time so saying that the boyfriend was exceptionally stupid would be unfair I think.

Okay now that we've got that cleared up I was wondering if you could give me your point of view, I know you're a parent so how would you react to this? If you aren't comfortable with answering that I understand but it would be great to have an actual parent share some of their knowledge with us, most of us are only kids after all.

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