Post: Disturbed by the idea of Death?
03-23-2012, 02:05 AM #1
Pichu
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Some have admitted that they are afraid, others state they don't care and many others like myself have just stated that we accept the inevitable.

What's your take on the matter?


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I'm in two minds about the whole death thing. Accept death? I laugh at people who say they accept death in a "what you gonna do" manner. It's the most unfair and cruel thing ever devised, why should we be leveled with all the other scum, we don't get any rewards for being good people we just rot in a hole and pretty soon after that we are forgotten. Sometimes I feel choked by fear when I think about it, the unstoppable power that is our impending death just really makes me feel weak and feeble. I really don't think it's something that anyone can ever accept and just say "shit happens", if you have such a light-hearted approach to death then you haven't thought about it hard enough.

On the other hand death is a gift, imagine the thought of endless time stretching out in front of you, I think it would drive a man insane. After all, we all make mistakes and carry baggage, can you imagine the amount of baggage you would have if you lived for a thousand years? I'm just seventeen and I'm $#@!ing plagued by things everyday, thoughts and regrets that just follow me around.


Lets end this post on a more happy note shall we? Death makes life all the more precious, it makes everyday seem special, to know that you possess something that many people have lost. It motivates me personally, it makes me get up off the laptop and do stupid shit and have fun. It also helps me when I'm stressed out with school work and other things I just think to myself "Hey, this is nothing, you're gonna die someday asshole, so cheer the $#@! up.". You will never really accept how precious life is until you accept how precious death is, and I'm sure you'll be happy when you do.


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06-14-2012, 10:39 PM #65
NotForYou
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It is indeed sad to know that whatever life style you have lived, good or bad, it will all get taken away from you regardless of who you are, how old you are and much you don't fear it.

Death itself I don't "fear" but rather hesitant to think about in more detail. But certainly the thought of just withering away and having heart attack after stroke just makes me welcome death in a manner. Once I have lived my life, done what i need to do and enjoyed it, it gets time to move on.

One thought that does plague me though is what happens after? Just never ending empty darkness? No feeling, no sight, no dreams. Nothing. Or do we come back as another human with no recollection of past life and start new as a baby? Or can we in fact resurrect into a different creature entirely? Who says we must stay on this planet? This universe? it's mind numbingly hard to to think about deeply but makes you wonder and eventually you will be hungry for answers to your questions.
06-15-2012, 12:18 AM #66
juddylovespizza
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I have contemplated this subject for about 4 years now, it has never gone away and is indeed unanswerable. Or is it unanswerable, is it just the arrogance of our species, cursed with intelligence, to refuse to face reality? Do we prefer to hope naively there is something after death to keep us sane. I think that may well be the case, it is easier to delude ourselves (or at least the majorities do) with essentially bullshit. When death is scientifically observed no evidence has ever been discovered of a soul being transmitted from the body, and I'm sure you know this! No assertions about what happens after death have ever been proven, and I doubt ever will because they were simply invented by ourselves.

You can probably infer my stance on death. I don't think there is anything after death. Our personality, our consciousness, ceases to exist and soon after death and our brains begin to decompose to a state where nothing can ever be preserved. I do find the harsh truth of all this disconcerting. Although my viewpoint is slowly changing, I think everyone's does over the course of their life if they actively and logically judge it. I know some people look at this and say to themselves what is the point of life? If all we do is die after a relatively short period of time, we will soon be forgotten because all these people that knew will die too. And the answer is there really is no point. The reality is we are floating on a piece of dust in a unimaginably infinite sized universe. What you achieve in your life will never matter on an universal level. You may think if you don't know me I am quite the suicidal, pessimistic bastard..

But I am glad to say I did have to change my perceptive on life and death. On a personal level, your level, life does matter. I justified this in my head by thinking of my friends/family and how selfish an act would be to commit suicide. And also we are all on this weird journey together called life, I think now we may as well enjoy the ride and not take it too seriously - because in the end it will all end. Enjoy life and do achieve everything you wish because it is finite, do not be deceived into thinking you will be able to experience all this again - or in some conjured fairy tale heaven. I can arrogantly certify that doesn't exist.

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06-15-2012, 12:22 AM #67
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It's a fact that humans are more afraid than spiders than death. I'm scared in a way. But more interested, I want to know what happens after you die. Maybe the 'light' you see when you're dying, is actually you coming out of the womb? and being re-born. That's a theory I guess. Great thread.
06-15-2012, 12:37 AM #68
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06-15-2012, 02:05 AM #69
Originally posted by Jake View Post
It's a fact that humans are more afraid than spiders than death. I'm scared in a way. But more interested, I want to know what happens after you die. Maybe the 'light' you see when you're dying, is actually you coming out of the womb? and being re-born. That's a theory I guess. Great thread.


No, that's not a theory, that's you spouting some random idea you've had. If there's no evidence then there's no theory, by definition.

Also, if people really do see a light when they're dying, could that not just be part and parcel of the brain shutting down? That seems infinitely more plausible to me.

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06-15-2012, 02:35 AM #70
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Originally posted by Clutch
No, that's not a theory, that's you spouting some random idea you've had. If there's no evidence then there's no theory, by definition.

Also, if people really do see a light when they're dying, could that not just be part and parcel of the brain shutting down? That seems infinitely more plausible to me.


I suppose. In my head it sounded great haha, and yeah I suppose you're right it could be a section of the brain shutting down, but people have claimed to see the 'light' and if they have, and 'came back to life' wouldn't a section of the brain shutting down not leave you like f*cked up? near-enough retarded or something?
06-15-2012, 09:17 AM #71
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Originally posted by Clutch
No, that's not a theory, that's you spouting some random idea you've had. If there's no evidence then there's no theory, by definition.

Also, if people really do see a light when they're dying, could that not just be part and parcel of the brain shutting down? That seems infinitely more plausible to me.


First off, that depends on how you define the term "theory". According to the Oxford Dictionary, arguably the most trusted English dictionary in the world, a You must login or register to view this content. is merely an "idea used to account for a situation or justify a course of action." I would say that, under such a definition, Jake's statement is indeed a theory.

Unless, of course, you were talking about the scientific definition of a theory, which would indeed require well-substantiated explanations. However, the term "scientific theory" was never mentioned in either of your posts, and even the United States National Academy of Sciences states that "In everyday language a theory means a hunch or speculation." A careless word may kindle strife (or in this case, perhaps just the opposite - it's hard to come up with an apropos quote off the top of my head).

To get back on topic, while I would agree that "seeing the light" is likely a result of one's body shutting down and the chemical reactions that occur with death, I believe that, in death, "seeing the light" might be comforting. I'm not sure if it will be disconcerting, terrifying, or pleasurable, but I'd like to think that when I die, I will receive a last moment of peace, even if merely a result of chemicals.
06-15-2012, 09:54 AM #72
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on a lighter side you mum :carling:
06-15-2012, 12:29 PM #73
Originally posted by Epic
First off, that depends on how you define the term "theory". According to the Oxford Dictionary, arguably the most trusted English dictionary in the world, a You must login or register to view this content. is merely an "idea used to account for a situation or justify a course of action." I would say that, under such a definition, Jake's statement is indeed a theory.

Unless, of course, you were talking about the scientific definition of a theory, which would indeed require well-substantiated explanations. However, the term "scientific theory" was never mentioned in either of your posts, and even the United States National Academy of Sciences states that "In everyday language a theory means a hunch or speculation." A careless word may kindle strife (or in this case, perhaps just the opposite - it's hard to come up with an apropos quote off the top of my head).

To get back on topic, while I would agree that "seeing the light" is likely a result of one's body shutting down and the chemical reactions that occur with death, I believe that, in death, "seeing the light" might be comforting. I'm not sure if it will be disconcerting, terrifying, or pleasurable, but I'd like to think that when I die, I will receive a last moment of peace, even if merely a result of chemicals.


Well obviously I meant scientific theory, since scientific enquiry is the basis for which we know what's true and what's not. It always is, and some silly mystical force anybody else reading this believes in shan't change that. It'd merely mean they're wilfully ignorant and choosing not to pursue the truth. (not aimed at you, but at the superstitious amongst us)

And yeah, it does sound quite peaceful. Certainly better than a high gamma red :p

Originally posted by Jake View Post
I suppose. In my head it sounded great haha, and yeah I suppose you're right it could be a section of the brain shutting down, but people have claimed to see the 'light' and if they have, and 'came back to life' wouldn't a section of the brain shutting down not leave you like f*cked up? near-enough retarded or something?


I don't know, but admitting that we don't know this is better than attaching some unsupported, arrogant "supernatural" meaning to it. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a known reason for this, though.

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