Post: Bullying
03-31-2012, 08:25 PM #1
Pichu
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04-10-2012, 05:52 PM #11
Originally posted by The
Before I get into my response I would just like to state that I do think that bullying is wrong.

Now for my debate:

I personally think that even though bullying is wrong that some people bring it on themselves. For example, kids/people who are homosexual and flaunt it around all over the place. I mean there is nothing wrong with being homosexual but do you really have to pretty much cross-dress and talk like a girl? No. So even though bullying is by no means right, some kids do not do themselves any favors by how they act, dress, etc.


So if a homosexual bully started bullying kids who talk with very deep voices and flaunt their heterosexuality that would be the same, then? Would the heterosexuals being bullied be bringing it on themselves? F*ck no.

If you don't like the way someone behaves and it doesn't impact you then just ignore them. It's no excuse for bullying whatsoever. It's almost as laughable as when people make out women who are raped bring it on themselves by showing cleavage. I mean, really, what the flying f*ck? ಠ_ಠ

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Swede
04-10-2012, 07:31 PM #12
ghostbear
Vaulted cur
There is a fine line between playing and bullying. It's all fun and games til someone gets hurt.
Bullying is offensive, there is no reason for it, and its continuance is a mar on our civilization.
Making excuses just shows how weak the bullies truly are.
06-05-2012, 04:41 PM #13
Antones
Blood of Innocence
Personally I have never been Bullied no! But it's so wrong and a people who bully are cowards. Personally I support the Beat Bullying campaign.
06-08-2012, 04:49 AM #14
Epic?
Awe-Inspiring
Originally posted by Clutch
So if a homosexual bully started bullying kids who talk with very deep voices and flaunt their heterosexuality that would be the same, then? Would the heterosexuals being bullied be bringing it on themselves? F*ck no.

If you don't like the way someone behaves and it doesn't impact you then just ignore them. It's no excuse for bullying whatsoever. It's almost as laughable as when people make out women who are raped bring it on themselves by showing cleavage. I mean, really, what the flying f*ck? ಠ_ಠ


Well, it's sort of like the argument of the beautiful girls who wear extremely revealing clothes and flaunt their sexuality, all the while walking through a poor, dangerous neighborhood and talking on their smart phones. Do they deserve to be raped? Certainly not. Could their rape be justified? Absolutely not. Did they bring it on themselves? No, they didn't. But could they have exercised a little caution, taken a little care, and made an honest attempt to protect themselves? Yes.

I'm not trying to justify bullying (or rape), but I agree (to some degree) with The Dirty Cuban. Bullying is a horrible, awful act (I've been a victim of bullying more than once in my life). Many people are bullied and are not exceptional in relation to societal standards. However, for those who are exceptional (read: lesbian, bisexual, gay, transgender, or even of unusual race or creed) should attempt to exercise caution. I don't want to force people into the closet, I don't want to bar people from self expression. All I recommend is that these people wait to express themselves fully (you can be gay, and not cross dress or get intimate with your boyfriend at the high school lunch table - I have a number of friends who are gay, and none of them do particularly unusual activities, and none of them are harassed).

The bottom line is, if you're going into a hostile environment (yes, I'd consider many a high school to be a hostile environment, especially for unusual people), you should try to adapt so you don't get hurt. Yes, the society is the one that must ultimately change, but for the time being, protect yourself. Put your safety above self expression, at least until you get to a better, more accepting place.

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06-08-2012, 05:24 AM #15
Det0x
Pimpin 24/7
The way I see bullying is the person doing the bullying has alot of prolems himself or has trouble fitting in. So therefore he lashes out on others to help make himself feel better or to impress his friends. I not to popular in school myself, but Im not bullied. Ive seen many kids getting bullied in school, but it's one of those things hop in and defend the kid and chance getting jumped by the bullies friends? or just keep walking and keep doing your own thing? Most of the time I Just mind my own bussniess. Though it's truely sad what kind of world we live in.
06-09-2012, 06:08 AM #16
Originally posted by Epic
Well, it's sort of like the argument of the beautiful girls who wear extremely revealing clothes and flaunt their sexuality, all the while walking through a poor, dangerous neighborhood and talking on their smart phones. Do they deserve to be raped? Certainly not. Could their rape be justified? Absolutely not. Did they bring it on themselves? No, they didn't. But could they have exercised a little caution, taken a little care, and made an honest attempt to protect themselves? Yes.

I'm not trying to justify bullying (or rape), but I agree (to some degree) with The Dirty Cuban. Bullying is a horrible, awful act (I've been a victim of bullying more than once in my life). Many people are bullied and are not exceptional in relation to societal standards. However, for those who are exceptional (read: lesbian, bisexual, gay, transgender, or even of unusual race or creed) should attempt to exercise caution. I don't want to force people into the closet, I don't want to bar people from self expression. All I recommend is that these people wait to express themselves fully (you can be gay, and not cross dress or get intimate with your boyfriend at the high school lunch table - I have a number of friends who are gay, and none of them do particularly unusual activities, and none of them are harassed).

The bottom line is, if you're going into a hostile environment (yes, I'd consider many a high school to be a hostile environment, especially for unusual people), you should try to adapt so you don't get hurt. Yes, the society is the one that must ultimately change, but for the time being, protect yourself. Put your safety above self expression, at least until you get to a better, more accepting place.


This issue is with the bullies, not the kids being bullied, and thus the the bullies are the ones who need "adapting". If they won't, they can face criminal punishment. This fixes the problem, telling eccentric kids to pretend they're someone they're not doesn't.

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06-09-2012, 04:54 PM #17
Epic?
Awe-Inspiring
Originally posted by Clutch
This issue is with the bullies, not the kids being bullied, and thus the the bullies are the ones who need "adapting". If they won't, they can face criminal punishment. This fixes the problem, telling eccentric kids to pretend they're someone they're not doesn't.


That's not what I'm saying. I even stated in my previous post:

Originally posted by another user
the society is the one that must ultimately change


However, I still believe that these kids should value their safety over their self-expression - especially when, for the most part, the self-expression is unnecessary (for example, one is not required to cross-dress at school, causing a disruption of the decorum - one isn't even required to cross-dress to be gay). I'm not saying that the kids being bullied are the cause of the problem - it's obviously the bullies that are the cause of the problem; but I am saying that if you can prevent yourself from being physically or emotionally harmed by temporarily changing the way you behave, that would be a good choice. I don't want to destroy self-expression or the freedom of speech. They can speak out all they want, they can express themselves - just not in such extravagant ways - and it doesn't need to be permanent, it's just for the time being until they get to a better, safer, more accepting place. All I ask is that people value their safety over their self expression until change happens.
06-11-2012, 03:18 AM #18
Originally posted by Epic
That's not what I'm saying. I even stated in my previous post:



However, I still believe that these kids should value their safety over their self-expression - especially when, for the most part, the self-expression is unnecessary (for example, one is not required to cross-dress at school, causing a disruption of the decorum - one isn't even required to cross-dress to be gay). I'm not saying that the kids being bullied are the cause of the problem - it's obviously the bullies that are the cause of the problem; but I am saying that if you can prevent yourself from being physically or emotionally harmed by temporarily changing the way you behave, that would be a good choice. I don't want to destroy self-expression or the freedom of speech. They can speak out all they want, they can express themselves - just not in such extravagant ways - and it doesn't need to be permanent, it's just for the time being until they get to a better, safer, more accepting place. All I ask is that people value their safety over their self expression until change happens.


Firstly, safety wouldn't be an issue if people took my approach as opposed to yours. Secondly, what are you trying to say with the cross-dressing remark(s)? Who was it directed towards?
06-11-2012, 03:24 AM #19
Swede
Hatsune!
Originally posted by Clutch
So if a homosexual bully started bullying kids who talk with very deep voices and flaunt their heterosexuality that would be the same, then? Would the heterosexuals being bullied be bringing it on themselves? F*ck no.

If you don't like the way someone behaves and it doesn't impact you then just ignore them. It's no excuse for bullying whatsoever. It's almost as laughable as when people make out women who are raped bring it on themselves by showing cleavage. I mean, really, what the flying f*ck? ಠ_ಠ


very nicely said :y:

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