Post: Narcissistic personality disorder
04-12-2012, 09:31 AM #1
(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); I just wanted to start a thread about narcissism, mostly due to the fact that my father is a narcissist. I'm just wondering if anyone else's family member or someone you know is a narcissist.
I also want to know that if you know someone who's narcissist, what do you think about it and how do you be with this kind of person.

Something about my experience:
Basically, because of NDP my parens divorced. At the time I was about 13 and since then every single time when I go to visit my dad every second weekend if something "bad" has happened, (such as skipping school or got a bad grade from exam etc.) he starts the weekend by yelling at me for about 2 hours and then the situation normalizes. I've been going there for 4 years and I just can't go there anymore as I know that every time he will just yell at me. It's pretty hard.

Also if I didn't went to school or something, he called my mom and blamed HER because I didn't go for school. This have had a bad result in our relationship, even tho she understands it. Nowadays she doesn't answer his calls and he won't call cause he knows she won't answer. Instead
he will just send text messages. Also my sister hasn't been visiting him mostly because she knows that he will just yell at us. So whenever I go there I get yelled for my "faults" and then my sister's "faults". Then he blames my mom that I or my sister haven't been seeing him. He has sent a lot of very agressive text messages such as: "Why aren't you taking care of our children you fucking bitch" and once even "I hope you will die so I can piss to your grave".

So he thinks EVERYTHING is my mom's or someone else's fault and he has NEVER done anything wrong.

Just wanted to share this with somebody, and as I said before if you have any personal experiences, please tell.

Here's the definition for NDP:
Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is a personality disorder in which the individual is described as being excessively preoccupied with issues of personal adequacy, power, prestige and vanity. First formulated in 1968, it was historically called megalomania, and it is closely linked to egocentrism.

Symptoms:
Reacts to criticism with anger, shame, or humiliation
May take advantage of others to reach their own goal
Tends to exaggerate their own importance, achievements, and talents
Imagines unrealistic fantasies of success, beauty, power, intelligence, or romance
Requires constant attention and positive reinforcement from others
Easily becomes jealous
Lacks empathy and disregards the feelings of others
Obsessed with oneself
Mainly pursues selfish goals
Trouble keeping healthy relationships
Is easily hurt and rejected
Sets unrealistic goals
Wants "the best" of everything
Appears as tough-minded or unemotional


And generally about NDP:
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04-12-2012, 10:23 AM #2
Originally posted by Ropponen View Post
So he thinks EVERYTHING is my mom's or someone else's fault and he has NEVER done anything wrong.

Just wanted to share this with somebody, and as I said before if you have any personal experiences, please tell.


I have had experience with a sufferer of Borderline Personality Disorder (You must login or register to view this content.) who is abusive and can never admit to being wrong, just like your father. She abused my brother and myself at a very young age. She yells abuse at her husband, which is terrible because he does EVERYTHING around the house whilst she sits on the computer all day, 7 days a week. And I mean EVERYTHING, the cleaning, the shopping, the cooking, housework, washing and it goes on. She would say his family is a disgrace and that his father collaborated with the Nazi's. She would say awful things like 'I knew I had made a mistake the day I married you,' which makes no sense because she could have left him at anytime. She completely depends on him 100% and what does he get in return? Abuse! You can never win an argument with her, so I don't even try.

This usually happens when she has been drinking in the afternoon and evening. We can't help her because she denies she has a problem and refuses to see a doctor. It really has torn the family apart. Arguments in the past between relatives and her have ended in tears and yelling over the phone. Then the next morning, she acts like nothing ever happened. To be honest, this sounds like NDP more than BPD, but I don't have a degree in psychology.

Anyway, that's my situation. Sorry for the semi-rant. Hope your coping okay with the situation with your father Smile
04-12-2012, 03:21 PM #3
Originally posted by storm View Post
I have had experience with a sufferer of Borderline Personality Disorder (You must login or register to view this content.) who is abusive and can never admit to being wrong, just like your father. She abused my brother and myself at a very young age. She yells abuse at her husband, which is terrible because he does EVERYTHING around the house whilst she sits on the computer all day, 7 days a week. And I mean EVERYTHING, the cleaning, the shopping, the cooking, housework, washing and it goes on. She would say his family is a disgrace and that his father collaborated with the Nazi's. She would say awful things like 'I knew I had made a mistake the day I married you,' which makes no sense because she could have left him at anytime. She completely depends on him 100% and what does he get in return? Abuse! You can never win an argument with her, so I don't even try.

This usually happens when she has been drinking in the afternoon and evening. We can't help her because she denies she has a problem and refuses to see a doctor. It really has torn the family apart. Arguments in the past between relatives and her have ended in tears and yelling over the phone. Then the next morning, she acts like nothing ever happened. To be honest, this sounds like NDP more than BPD, but I don't have a degree in psychology.

Anyway, that's my situation. Sorry for the semi-rant. Hope your coping okay with the situation with your father Smile


Yeah, I know the arguements part. I'm pretty rational, but my sister is stubborn, she always argues with my dad. I rarely argue with him, cause I know that encourages him to yell more. So I usually be quiet, cause yelling back just make him yell more and won't help anything, cause he thinks he's always right.
04-12-2012, 05:49 PM #4
Hannah
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Narcissism is a very common personality disorder, present to some extent in practically everyone, but especially narcissists. It is usually mild, harmless, and completely unnoticeable. I don't have any sort of formal education in psychology (other than a bachelor's degree from a You must login or register to view this content., nothing special though), and I have never been a practicing psychoanalyst, though of course I could have been, if I'd wanted to. But that doesn't mean I'm wrong; in fact, just the opposite.

It should be noted that if you begin to notice symptoms of narcissism, and you probably will, you should not blame Ropponen or I for pointing these things out to you. That would just be "killing the messenger" — which is certainly typical of the sort of mentality commonly found among [s]people[/s] narcissists who constantly surf the web looking for cheap entertainment.

You're the one with the problem, so you should deal with it in your own way, as best you can. Obviously we can help prevent things from getting any worse, since we're people who know what we're talking about, but who doesn't have a hidden "agenda" like a "professional psychologist" does. Psychologists just want to blame you for everything.

That's why Scientologists don't like them, by the way. Even though Scientologists are all wackos, they understand that someone who makes it his or her business to tell you what's wrong with your brain is definitely not someone you can trust.

Anyway, if you should come to the conclusion - based on this thread, this post or some other unbiased information source (not that you'll ever find one as unbiased or as well-informed as this one) - that you are a narcissist, there are several things you could conceivably do about it:

For example, you could become a hermit, or lose all your self-esteem by moving to New Jersey, or just get really depressed and spend all your waking hours watching television, playing video games, and eating too much food. Or both. But that wouldn't make things any better; I know this for a fact. All you would do is get grossly fat and fart all the time. Disgusting.

Instead, to put it simply, here's what you should do: Stop being a narcissist.

See that? All you had to do was stop, and bingo, problem solved! And it was really easy, too! It certainly was for me.

Rest assured, I ask for nothing - not one thin dime - for imparting this great wisdom to you, since I am of a consecrated heart (of course, you don't know what that means). I am enlightened. Take it and do with it as you will. Just remember, if it doesn't work, it's your fault, not mine. I tried, really hard, to make you understand but you wouldn't listen. You just didn't get it. And now look at you - you're worse off than you were before, aren't you?

I used to know someone who was narcissistic, I don't know if it was to the point of a disorder though. Basically I would just be an asshole to them until they pulled out "forbidden cards" on me or I just pissed them off into submission.

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