Post: Islam and Terrorism
04-17-2012, 05:58 PM #1
TheTrueAce
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"Islam" and other various Islamic terms and concepts are grossly misunderstood in the West. Muslims can hardly find anyone to blame but themselves because (a) they have failed to live by the Islamic tenants in our times, and (b) they have failed to promote understanding of Islam in the West through outreach projects. This brochure is a humble attempt to briefly explain the terms given in the title. The Institute of Islamic Information & Education (III&E) has published almost fifty brochures and several articles for promoting understanding of Islam among Muslims and non-Muslims equally


Some of the Islamic Terms

Islam: means a commitment to live in peace through submission to the Will of God (Allah).

Muslim: is a person who makes a commitment to live in peace through servitude to Allah.

Jihad: means "struggle" and "strive" against evil thoughts, evil action and aggression against a person, family, society or country. Jihad may be a "justifiable war", borrowing the Christian term.

Mujahid: is a person who engages in Jihad for the sake of Allah according to the Quran (Muslim's source book for guidance) and Sunnah (the teachings of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Mujahidin is the plural of Mujahid.

"Islamic terrorism": There is no such phrase or term in the Islamic source books of the Quran or the Sunnah and has no place in Islam.

Sunnah: Sunnah is the preferred way of the Prophet Muhammad that includes his teaching. The sources of the Sunnah are authentic Hadith (reports of the Prophet's sayings, doings and approvals) collections.
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05-08-2012, 12:55 AM #29
Swede
Hatsune!
Originally posted by ghostbear View Post
You hate the USA, but love NY? Interesting to say the least, but please do not confuse the government of the United States with that of its people. The media and the governing body are to blame for 90% of the misinformation to be heard here, the 10% is due to plain ignorance.

While I don't believe the official story about Osama, there exists no picture of him dead. The report made was they killed him and buried him at sea in "traditional Islamic fashion" I am not a Muslim, but that sounds like bullshit. As for Obama's certificate, it is no worse that Bush stealing the election.

Also before anyone decides to be stupid,(not at you D3XTA) the last sentence was making a point about the government.
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Bush election here

Obama's Birth certificate
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You can make your own conclusions.


I agree with you you should not judge an entire nation's population off of its government, I met some Americans (not the ignorant ones) and they respect the world and everything of it, but I agree I do not like the government of the US

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Originally posted by xinfectedsoulx View Post
To be honest, I think the world would be a better place without America. It was a fine place to be until it formed, then they went on a power trip ever since. It's not the media portrayal as to why I don't like them, it's the people's portrayal. "Hurr durr America saved your ass in WW1 and WW2 hurr durr" $#@! off, really. Some of the wars are not justified. WW1 and WW2 was justified for war. Vietnam war was to try and build a democracy. That is not justifiable, that's trying to take control. The gulf war, OK, yeah it was kind of justifiable, I mean Saddam was killing innocent people so that needs to be stopped. The Somalian civil war had nothing to do with America, they went to try and create a democracy, again, and look how it turned out. Again, trying to control somewhere.

Iraq was for WMD's. You say why do Iraq need Nukes? Why do America need Nukes? Just because? Why? Why can America have thousands and other countries can't have one? No one needs nukes, and America are the only ones to have used them. Countries such as Iran and Iraq want to be powerful and a super power, and they follow the West to become one. The West has nukes, they want nukes because they think that's how you become a super power.

You say that there isn't any evidence of America getting oil? Well, maybe not directly, but for example, say Canada import oil from Iraq and then export oil to USA, where is the oil USA are getting coming from? Canada acting as the middle man, just like any business, therefore the oil USA are getting is really coming from Iraq. See how that works?

I don't hate America because of how powerful they are for a country. They would get bum $#@!ed if a war broke out between them and Russia or China just because of the size of their armies. Look at what happened in WW2 with the Nazis and Russia. Russia was less equipped than the Nazi yet beat them because of the size. Russia still has some good tech. Britain has the best army and we've proved how good we are countless times over history. We had a colony and controlled half the world. We have a track record. America don't. The only thing America has is numbers, in which if we were to ever go to war, it would be America winning due to the size, however if it was a fair fight, I have no doubt that Britain would win.

America isn't the only country to send aid. Britain sends it all the time and we're in a massive recession. You're the prime example of why I don't like America. You're narrow Minded yourself, thinking America is the best thing in the world. It says you're from Canada, I thought Americans don't like Canadians, so why you're bum $#@!ing them I have no idea. How you can call anyone narrow minded it beyond me, you don't look at anything from other sides, just Americas side.


couldn't said it better myself but you were a little over board on the hate
05-08-2012, 01:58 AM #30
Mugen904
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Originally posted by Kammmmi View Post
I'm sure most people are going to groan and neg me but I don't give a $#@!. I don't like ANY Muslims or ANY people from the middle east. The people's beliefs from there are insane and stupid. If there beliefs weren't to do what they do, they wouldn't cause problems with other countries.

My beliefs and my opinions.


WOW......You're garbage
05-08-2012, 02:12 AM #31
Jared
Tranquility.
Originally posted by Mugen904 View Post
WOW......You're garbage


I can have my own beliefs about this. You don't have to believe what I do.
05-08-2012, 03:15 AM #32
Originally posted by Kammmmi View Post
I can have my own beliefs about this. You don't have to believe what I do.


No, but this is the debating section and you should be defending your beliefs here, or trying to persuade others to adopt your point of view. If you mentally can't defend it, then that's a sure way of knowing that your beliefs are quite simply false and you should drop them. It's quite simple.

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05-17-2012, 03:12 PM #33
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90 % of all terrorists have eaten bread now we should forbid bread :boss:
05-17-2012, 09:16 PM #34
Redadski
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Terrorism is the systematic use of terror, especially as a means of coercion. In the international community, however, terrorism has no universally agreed, legally binding, criminal law definition.[1][2] Common definitions of terrorism refer only to those violent acts which are intended to create fear (terror), are perpetrated for a religious, political or, ideological goal; and deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants (civilians). Some definitions now include acts of unlawful violence and war. The use of similar tactics by criminal organizations for protection rackets or to enforce a code of silence is usually not labeled terrorism though these same actions may be labeled terrorism when done by a politically motivated group.
The word "terrorism" is politically and emotionally charged,[3] and this greatly compounds the difficulty of providing a precise definition. Studies have found over 100 definitions of “terrorism”.[4][5] The concept of terrorism may itself be controversial as it is often used by state authorities (and individuals with access to state support) to delegitimize political or other opponents,[6] and potentially legitimize the state's own use of armed force against opponents (such use of force may itself be described as "terror" by opponents of the state).[6][7]
Terrorism has been practiced by a broad array of political organizations for furthering their objectives. It has been practiced by both right-wing and left-wing political parties, nationalistic groups, religious groups, revolutionaries, and ruling governments.[8] An abiding characteristic is the indiscriminate use of violence against noncombatants for the purpose of gaining publicity for a group, cause, or individual. The symbolism of terrorism can leverage human fear to help achieve these goals. [9]


Almost al those points are pointing at America an Israel in my eyes not Islam.
05-17-2012, 10:55 PM #35
Originally posted by Kammmmi View Post
I'm sure most people are going to groan and neg me but I don't give a $#@!. I don't like ANY Muslims or ANY people from the middle east. The people's beliefs from there are insane and stupid. If there beliefs weren't to do what they do, they wouldn't cause problems with other countries.

My beliefs and my opinions.


No offense, when someone uses the word "All" instead of the "Vast Majority" or " Most". You know that's he's a brain washed idiot. Anyways,your beliefs, happy one being fooled.
06-01-2012, 09:16 PM #36
Millz
Worth the Weight
Originally posted by xinfectedsoulx View Post
To be honest, I think the world would be a better place without America. It was a fine place to be until it formed, then they went on a power trip ever since. It's not the media portrayal as to why I don't like them, it's the people's portrayal. "Hurr durr America saved your ass in WW1 and WW2 hurr durr" Fuck off, really. Some of the wars are not justified. WW1 and WW2 was justified for war. Vietnam war was to try and build a democracy. That is not justifiable, that's trying to take control. The gulf war, OK, yeah it was kind of justifiable, I mean Saddam was killing innocent people so that needs to be stopped. The Somalian civil war had nothing to do with America, they went to try and create a democracy, again, and look how it turned out. Again, trying to control somewhere.

Iraq was for WMD's. You say why do Iraq need Nukes? Why do America need Nukes? Just because? Why? Why can America have thousands and other countries can't have one? No one needs nukes, and America are the only ones to have used them. Countries such as Iran and Iraq want to be powerful and a super power, and they follow the West to become one. The West has nukes, they want nukes because they think that's how you become a super power.

You say that there isn't any evidence of America getting oil? Well, maybe not directly, but for example, say Canada import oil from Iraq and then export oil to USA, where is the oil USA are getting coming from? Canada acting as the middle man, just like any business, therefore the oil USA are getting is really coming from Iraq. See how that works?

I don't hate America because of how powerful they are for a country. They would get bum fucked if a war broke out between them and Russia or China just because of the size of their armies. Look at what happened in WW2 with the Nazis and Russia. Russia was less equipped than the Nazi yet beat them because of the size. Russia still has some good tech. Britain has the best army and we've proved how good we are countless times over history. We had a colony and controlled half the world. We have a track record. America don't. The only thing America has is numbers, in which if we were to ever go to war, it would be America winning due to the size, however if it was a fair fight, I have no doubt that Britain would win.

America isn't the only country to send aid. Britain sends it all the time and we're in a massive recession. You're the prime example of why I don't like America. You're narrow Minded yourself, thinking America is the best thing in the world. It says you're from Canada, I thought Americans don't like Canadians, so why you're bum fucking them I have no idea. How you can call anyone narrow minded it beyond me, you don't look at anything from other sides, just Americas side.


I know this is a terribly late response, but I never really got around to it and I just realized I haven't replied to this. So I apologize.

Firstly I do want to state that most wars that America has gotten involved in are not actually wars that were fought by just America. You should at least be distributing the blame evenly on most of the other countries that were also involved. Frankly I do believe that most wars have been justified in some shape or form, however war isn't exactly the answer to all of Americas problems. Obama now wants to talk about peace with other nations, as they have had enough of war. And I salute them for this.

The west has never launched a WMD without justification. NEVER. That's really all there needs to be said. The middle east has been known to have a strong hate for America. The attacks that took place on 9/11 shows that they are not kidding around when it comes to these things. If you want to argue about 9/11 and being an inside job to justify wars, be my guest.

Canada has the Alberta Oil sands. Canada is the #1 supplier of oil to the United States. Canada does not need Iraq's fuel. NO country for that matter imports oil from Iraq without paying. The United states pays Iraq around 10 billion a year for oil. Every single drop of Oil is payed for. Actually Iraq and the US have a pretty good amount of business going on between them, as the US is the prime oil export partner of Iraq, which generates a large amount of money for Iraq.

Firstly:

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I'll let you conclude whatever you want from this, however to me it is very clear that Americas technology is unmatched. No country will want to go to war with them, and no country will survive it. You are forgetting that the US has a huge amount of support from countries. And if you think they won't help, be prepared for the largest recession that has ever existed on this planet. Like it or not, if the US falls as a political powerhouse, and their economy plummets, you will feel the effect around the globe.

Now you mentioned WWII so I would just want to comment on that. Russia was by no means beating Germany because of numbers. They were beating them because the US decided to aid Russia. Plus there are the following factors to include:

Germany was fighting SEVERAL other countries at that time.
Russia was probably the harshest environment that the Nazis ever had to fight in. They were not prepared for the weather.

Next.


You just proved my point by saying that sending aid causes financial difficulties, and that they are in fact good people for doing so.

Originally posted by another user
It says you're from Canada, I thought Americans don't like Canadians, so why you're bum fucking them I have no idea.


Not really sure how to respond to this. I'm going to assume that this slipped out accidentally or something, and that you weren't serious and it was said in the heat of the moment while typing it up.


I don't look at things from America's side? Alright, let me rewrite this from another countries perspective and see how it compares.


Huh, think of how amazing this world would be without America. Let's see.

Well for one we wouldn't have NASA, we wouldn't have anyone to help us if were in trouble, we wouldn't have anyone to buy our products.

Well that's good enough for me because apparently they are really bad people so it's worth it!

Iraq was definitely for oil because I know everything there is to know about the war right? I watched a YouTube video the other day and now I feel like a genius because I know everything about the war! It's all BS I tell you! DOWN WITH BUSH!
06-04-2012, 03:39 AM #37
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