Post: PS4 and Xbox 720: why we're in for a long wait
08-24-2009, 04:57 PM #1
King Jamiɘ
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(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Tradition dictates there will at some point be an Xbox 720, or 1080, or whatever foolishness Microsoft's marketing department decides is a suitable name for the company's third games consoles.

Tradition would also seem to dictate it'll be any day now – we're four years on from the release of the Xbox 360, which was itself released four years after the original Xbox.

The same, theoretically, is true of a Playstation 4, though a little less pressingly so. Its infamous predecessor is now three years old, and arrived six years after the launch of the still-existent Playstation 2. So news of a new Sony console should be hitting the horizon very soon, right?

This is the console generation that breaks the cycle, the regular hardware refresh from competing manufacturers that became a trend when Sega followed up the Master System with the Genesis/Megadrive and Nintendo followed suit by replacing the NES with the SNES.

2011 has oft been touted as the year we'll see the Sony PS4 and Microsoft Xbox 720 consoles, but that's now looking increasingly unlikely. The Xbox 360 and the Playstation 3 are only just getting started.

There are three key reasons for the extension of the current console generation. The first, is, perhaps, the most obvious – the prevailing financial climate. Now is not the time to be introducing a new electronic luxury item - and not simply because consumers will balk at spending a few hundred quid when most of them already have a capable gaming machine with a slew of £40-50 games.

"Both Microsoft and Sony are under enormous pressure", explains Nicholas Lovell, Founder of games consultancy Gamesbrief.

"Microsoft from Google and Apple as it tries to work out how Windows and Office fit into a web-based, cloud-computing future, and Sony because it needs to transition from being an engineering company to a modern intellectual-property company. Investors have not got the appetite for further, expensive wars to fight for what may well be a shrinking market: the hardcore gaming market."

New controllers

Which brings us to point two – the pursuit of a different gaming market. On the near horizon is Project Natal for the Xbox 360 – a plug-in box capable of, reportedly, breathtaking motion, face and voice recognition.

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PROJECT NATAL: A demo at the recent GamesCom event

It's intended as a total controller replacement, shifting from button-presses to naturalistic body gestures - a riposte to Nintendo's Wii. From the Sony camp comes the PlayStation Motion Controller, which looks uncomfortably like an obscure sex toy but, similarly, is a gesture-based device intended to attract a less hardcore gaming audience to the PS3.

These new controllers were not made lightly; they are not experimental gimmicks made to please gadget fetishists. They exist because the Wii has proven that there is a huge, huge audience out there that consoles have traditionally left untapped, and one that doesn't care about bleeding-edge graphics or even The Next Part In The Epic [insert violence-based sci-fi franchise here] Saga.

"I absolutely believe that Natal and the motion controller are part of a strategy to extend the lifecycle," says industry analyst Nicholas Novell. "Nintendo has convincingly demonstrated that graphical fidelity and processing power are not the only battlegrounds for consumers.

"Accessible, intuitive gameplay is key. Historically, the jump to the next generation has been driven, at least partially, by the need to offer gamers the latest technology: I believe that the latest technology is now the controller, not the visuals or underlying technology."

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08-25-2009, 04:01 PM #11
I like how both the systems are and hope they don't change. At some point, you should know when to stop.
08-25-2009, 04:59 PM #12
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Originally posted by brandon1049 View Post
Obsolete?? Are you kidding me. You my friend need to learn to do some research before trying to pass something off as a fact.

Article from Reuter's.


Just a few months ago we all agreed that the video games industry seemed to be recession-proof, providing retail strength in the face of every other entertainment sector collapsing. But that clearly isn’t the case, and the Nintendo DS, Wii, Xbox 360, PSP, PS3, and PS2 all dropping in July according to NPD.

It actually looks as though the video games market is running a few months behind the rest of the retail sectors. While all around we were seeing significant falls in sales, video games were bucking the trend. Now the opposite is true, with the first signs of a recovery occurring in every sector apart from video games.

NPD U.S. Hardware Sales Chart - July 2009 (Courtesy of GI.biz)

Nintendo DS - 538,900
Nintendo Wii - 252,200
Microsoft Xbox 360 - 202,900
Sony PSP - 122,800
Sony PS3 - 121,800
Sony PS2 - 108,000


All six games consoles currently on the market dropped in terms of unit sales in July in the United States. Overall, video games hardware and software sales came in at $848.9 million, a drop of 29 percent on last year. Year-to-date sales stand at $8.16 billion, 14 percent lower than at this stage in 2008. On a month-to-month basis, sales dropped 27.4 percent between June and July.

Nintendo

Nintendo continues its reign at the top of the sales charts, with the DS and Wii occupying the top two positions as they have done for many months. However, both consoles saw significant drops in sales, with the DS shedding over 200,000 units and the Wii over 100,000 units between June and July.

Microsoft

The Xbox 360 also dropped but by a lesser 40,000 units or so. Microsoft will take solace in the fact NPD noted the Xbox 360 was the only console showing a year-to-date sales increase at this stage, with a 17 percent growth figure. But 200,000 consoles sold in the company’s strongest territory is still not great.

Sony

Last as usual is Sony, with the company once again occupying the bottom 3 positions. Once again, all three Sony consoles sold very similar amounts, which seeing as the PSP is a handheld and the PS2 is a console well past its sell-by date isn’t good news for the PS3. The PSP leapfrogged the PS3 to take fourth place overall this month.


You also have to take into account that Sony has 3 products in those numbers and nintendo has 2 so lets add them all up.

Nintendo overall - 791,100
Sony overall - 352,600
Microsoft overall - 202,900

Adding them all up puts sony in the lead. I do realize then that theres no Xbox on there which does pose a problem but my opinon is that microsoft would still be below Sony overall.
08-25-2009, 05:03 PM #13
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If something happened once does that really make it a cycle? No...it doesnt. So i stopped reading there, stupid article in my mind.
08-25-2009, 07:14 PM #14
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consols are fine for now but in two or three years we will need somthing twice as strong like the ps3 did for the ps2 I almost cant wait to see what happens with the ps4's power the longer we wait the better it could only be. for now we have some good stuff to play around with and I hope all three companies comes out with a new console I know ill still be buying all of them.
08-25-2009, 09:17 PM #15
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Originally posted by Dustin2524 View Post
If something happened once does that really make it a cycle? No...it doesnt. So i stopped reading there, stupid article in my mind.


If you think it is stupid, did you really need to say it was stupid? That's the kind of thing that doesn't go down well.

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08-25-2009, 11:58 PM #16
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Originally posted by King
If you think it is stupid, did you really need to say it was stupid? That's the kind of thing that doesn't go down well.

isnt giving feedback to the original post the whole point of a forum...? Calling the post u just made stupid would indeed be stupid because its completely irrelevant to the topic. And that irrelevance is something you seem to have already accomplished, congratz.
08-26-2009, 09:33 AM #17
Great thread dude made alot of points. I have the PS3 right now but im looking forward to getting the Xbox 360 Soon!
08-26-2009, 09:36 AM #18
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No, the whole point of a forum is not to give feedback to the original post, I was giving some information I found on the internet because I thought people would be interested in it. If you don't like the information I post thats your decision, but keep it to yourself because when you criticize something that somebody spent time on they get annoyed and thats how arguments start and being the Mod of this section I don't really want that to happen.

Also next time would you please spell properly and use correct grammar, it just makes it easier to read.
08-26-2009, 01:12 PM #19
DiXiEnOrMoUz28
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i dont mind waiting for now and longer we wait the better the systems will be if and when they finally bring it out

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