Post: [Debate] Drug Law?
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05-17-2012, 09:15 AM
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XeXenon
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Many other psychoactive chemicals have been synthesized and become largely popular with the public such as MDMA (Extacy), Methamphetamine ect. Many different types of psychoactive chemicals can also be found in plant life, one example of this is DMT (Dimethyltryptamine) which can be found in hundreds of different species of plant, DMT acts as a natural insecticide for the plants and when extracted and ingested is the most powerful hallucinogenic known to man, inducing incredibly vivid hallucinations that can last for about 5 mins. Though short-lived, these hallucinations can be immensely intense and powerful experiences that can feel like they last hours or even days. It is also speculated that DMT is naturally produced and secreted in the pineal gland of the brains of mammals, this secretion is said to happen during sleep (which is why we have dreams) and large amounts are secreted before death and during Near-Death-Experiences.
Even before recorded history (Prehistoric Times) proof of Cultural practices involving various psychoactive substances has been found throughout the entire world. These cultural activities or practices can be dated back in history to over 5,000 years in the past.
On October 27, 1970 in response to the increasing amount of psychoactive drug production and users, President Richard Nixon officially launches the "War on Drugs" by implementing the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970. This act made production, possession, and selling & trading of many different varieties of psychoactive substances Illegal throughout the United States. On December 20, 1989 the United States commenced "Operation Just Cause" where American troops invaded Panama in an attempt to restore civil order in Panama and capture the infamous Manuel Noriega for his drug trafficking in Panama. This "War on Drugs" has been criticized by many Americans for it's role in tax inflation (18.6% and 26.9% of GDP respectively) and failing in actual drug control & prevention. It is estimated that over $15 billion in taxes has gone into this "War" in 2010 alone.
Personally I have experimented with hallucinogens and other psychoactive drugs in the past. I am a regular Cannabis user, I typically smoke Cannabis on a daily basis. I am also an Athiest and I do not believe that psychoactive substances of any kind can give insight into the existence of a "higher power" or "after life". They are just hallucinations generated by your brain in conjecture with the ingested substance, pure and simple.
I believe the "War on Drugs" is simply a futile effort and a large waste of tax payer money.
I do support the legalization of certain non-addictive, non-neurotoxic/lethal and beneficial psychoactive drugs such as: Naturally accruing Cannabinoids (THC, CBD ect.), Psilocybin & Psilocin, MDMA, LSD & LSA, DMT, Ibogaine ect.
I do not support the legalization of any and all highly-addictive, neurotoxic and/or lethal psychoactive drugs such as: Opiates (Heroin, Morphine ect.), Cocaine, Methamphetamine, artificial Cannabinoids (JWH-018, HU-210 ect.),
I am more then willing to debate with anyone who wishes to debate me on my personal opinions.
P.S. I typed all of the above. No Copy Pasta here.
What are your thoughts on the issue?
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05-17-2012, 06:23 PM
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05-17-2012, 10:53 PM
#4
Just4Hax
"I will speak ill of
The mere fact there is no control over food products, or limited, which lead to obesity, heart attacks, high cholesterol, high blood pressure, etc... Yet we feel the need to ban/regulate drugs is ridiculous.
The CDC reports about 450k deaths per year due to tobacco(and decreasing). According to WIN, Obesity causes about 400k deaths. Seriously? How the hell is this not being controlled then?
The majority of it deals with politics. Drugs like Marijuana will become legalized over time (due to growing pop. in favor). The main opponent would likely be super conservative groups, lobbyists in favor of drugs like marinol, etc... Cigarettes will just die out.
When we talk about drugs like Heroin, Cocaine, etc... It becomes more complex. Truthfully, the main argument is in how it affects others.
As of right now I am in favor of REGULATIONS. This means the government will still hold control, but will allow said drugs.
The CDC reports about 450k deaths per year due to tobacco(and decreasing). According to WIN, Obesity causes about 400k deaths. Seriously? How the hell is this not being controlled then?
The majority of it deals with politics. Drugs like Marijuana will become legalized over time (due to growing pop. in favor). The main opponent would likely be super conservative groups, lobbyists in favor of drugs like marinol, etc... Cigarettes will just die out.
When we talk about drugs like Heroin, Cocaine, etc... It becomes more complex. Truthfully, the main argument is in how it affects others.
As of right now I am in favor of REGULATIONS. This means the government will still hold control, but will allow said drugs.
05-18-2012, 12:15 AM
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XeXenon
Guest
Originally posted by Just4Hax
The mere fact there is no control over food products, or limited, which lead to obesity, heart attacks, high cholesterol, high blood pressure, etc... Yet we feel the need to ban/regulate drugs is ridiculous.
That's a very good point. In America obesity and other health issues are a FAR more pressing then any concerns regarding psychical damage with drugs like Cannabis. As there are none, as you have said there have been absolutely no deaths in the entire world that have been directly linked to Cannabis use.
Originally posted by another user
The majority of it deals with politics. Drugs like Marijuana will become legalized over time (due to growing pop. in favor). The main opponent would likely be super conservative groups, lobbyists in favor of drugs like marinol, etc... Cigarettes will just die out.
If your referring to the Marijuana Transfer Tax Act of 1937 in which it is theorized that the act was passed simply to stop/slow the production of Hemp in accordance to paper companies, I completely understand. It really is simply a political issue concerning public popularity vs. large corporations, and I'm sure we all know which one the government is more concerned about. But yes in the end I do hope that the government will realize that they must change their perspective and learn that they actually could be making a HUGE profit off of retail Cannabis selling by simply applying taxes to the herb.
05-18-2012, 02:22 AM
#6
Pichu
PICHU.
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Originally posted by XeXenon
That's a very good point. In America obesity and other health issues are a FAR more pressing then any concerns regarding psychical damage with drugs like Cannabis. As there are none, as you have said there have been absolutely no deaths in the entire world that have been directly linked to Cannabis use.
If your referring to the Marijuana Transfer Tax Act of 1937 in which it is theorized that the act was passed simply to stop/slow the production of Hemp in accordance to paper companies, I completely understand. It really is simply a political issue concerning public popularity vs. large corporations, and I'm sure we all know which one the government is more concerned about. But yes in the end I do hope that the government will realize that they must change their perspective and learn that they actually could be making a HUGE profit off of retail Cannabis selling by simply applying taxes to the herb.
If your referring to the Marijuana Transfer Tax Act of 1937 in which it is theorized that the act was passed simply to stop/slow the production of Hemp in accordance to paper companies, I completely understand. It really is simply a political issue concerning public popularity vs. large corporations, and I'm sure we all know which one the government is more concerned about. But yes in the end I do hope that the government will realize that they must change their perspective and learn that they actually could be making a HUGE profit off of retail Cannabis selling by simply applying taxes to the herb.
No deaths linked to Cannabis use, there has to be some as people react to drugs differently.
Aside from that, I think the fight between Cigs and Weed needs to change, Cigs should become illegal as they are just a huge problem and are the main cause for cancer, you ban those; suddenly the millions needed to treat people with cancer will end as a lot of them won't be getting it, it then means that we can then focus that saved money on Cancer programs to learn how to beat Cancer.
Weed smells like shit but I think it should be legal. Smoking doesn't smell as bad as weed but it seems to stick to clothing more than the weed and still smells like shit.
Any highly addictive drug in my opinion shouldn't be legal except for medical purposes only.
05-18-2012, 05:23 AM
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ghostbear
Vaulted cur
Drugs are classified legal or illegal, based on the political whims of government. The war on drugs is just another way to milk the people out of money, when the logical idea would to legalize many of the non-addictive ones, the revenue generated from the sale to the general public would help so many. Not to mention the products that can be made.
05-18-2012, 11:23 PM
#8
CanonChris
Brute
05-19-2012, 01:07 AM
#9
Millz
Worth the Weight
Originally posted by XeXenon
I do not support the legalization of any and all highly-addictive, neurotoxic and/or lethal psychoactive drugs such as: Opiates (Heroin, Morphine ect.), Cocaine, Methamphetamine, artificial Cannabinoids
Agree with this 100%
I believe that Marijuana should be legalized, however.
05-22-2012, 02:33 PM
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WaferPink
Keeper
May I comment on the poll options, it is "they're" not "there". Sorry it was annoying me. Back on to the topic, I have voted for they help society as hard drugs such as crack and all them are terrible, Marijuana should be legalised as it hasn't caused deaths and typically it is a brilliant pain killer!
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