Post: Internet Filtering
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05-23-2012, 04:03 PM
#1
So NGU, how do you feel about this? Is it justified and responsible or is it a slippery slope towards censorship?
Opinions welcome.
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05-30-2012, 05:45 PM
#20
ghostbear
Vaulted cur
Originally posted by Clutch
This isn't stealing as the original stays exactly where it is; This is where the complexity comes in. This is copyright/trademark infringement, intellectual properly infringement, whatever the correct term is, you know what I mean.
There are 4 types of pirates in my eyes.
1) These guys are the ones who actively sell the stuff they download on. This is both illegal and immoral without question however people who do this are rare, at least here in the UK.
2) People who would buy the music/whatever else as it is now but don't solely because they can download it for free. This is immoral.
3) People who wouldn't buy the stuff as it is now for the price and will pirate until a price-drop happens and/or simply can't afford it. If you truly (c/w)ouldn't have bought the item(s) in question, then there's nothing wrong with this at all.
4) The guys who find a moral problem with supporting the media industry in its current form, such as myself, and thus refuse to buy things from certain publishers.
I fit into both #3 & #4, and without a doubt me pirating hasn't got a negative effect on industry at all. The publishers still make a killing, and the artists still get whatever scraps the publishers choose to give them. On-top of that, my feedback is passed on to friends etc, so if something is good, it gets free recommendations to people who will buy it.
There are 4 types of pirates in my eyes.
1) These guys are the ones who actively sell the stuff they download on. This is both illegal and immoral without question however people who do this are rare, at least here in the UK.
2) People who would buy the music/whatever else as it is now but don't solely because they can download it for free. This is immoral.
3) People who wouldn't buy the stuff as it is now for the price and will pirate until a price-drop happens and/or simply can't afford it. If you truly (c/w)ouldn't have bought the item(s) in question, then there's nothing wrong with this at all.
4) The guys who find a moral problem with supporting the media industry in its current form, such as myself, and thus refuse to buy things from certain publishers.
I fit into both #3 & #4, and without a doubt me pirating hasn't got a negative effect on industry at all. The publishers still make a killing, and the artists still get whatever scraps the publishers choose to give them. On-top of that, my feedback is passed on to friends etc, so if something is good, it gets free recommendations to people who will buy it.
This brings up another interesting point, what about second hand? There has been a buzz over buying used games, how does this relate to used music cds and software? You can go out to any store that resales old cds and software and might happen to get a newer product yet none of that money will go back to those who created it. I personally see a huge problem with copyright infringement as they make it out, you do not own anything when you buy that disk, just the right to use it. This is why I have a problem with the music and software industry. I was always the try before you buy kind of guy, I wanted to know if I would like the song or software before I decided to buy it. I have tried to purchase every song, and/or software I have, as long as I had the money. Many times I paid for them second hand, so I never gave any money to that artist or programmer. Technically I am a thief, by the ULA.
06-30-2012, 04:56 PM
#21
Just bumping this due to the news that the UK government are (foolishly) planning to monitor all internet communications and store them for a year, a la North Korea. This simply won't work on a technical level, and financially there's no doubting we're all paying for others to spy on us, but how do you guys feel about this ethically? Thoughts?
06-30-2012, 07:49 PM
#22
Just4Hax
"I will speak ill of
Originally posted by Clutch
Just bumping this due to the news that the UK government are (foolishly) planning to monitor all internet communications and store them for a year, a la North Korea. This simply won't work on a technical level, and financially there's no doubting we're all paying for others to spy on us, but how do you guys feel about this ethically? Thoughts?
I'm already under the influence of the Patriot act, so I really don't see too many differences.
06-30-2012, 09:29 PM
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