Post: What is reality?
06-11-2012, 06:58 PM #1
(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Well this is a personal topic I have been thinking about for the past few months and wanted to kind of get a different side of view on things, more or less just wanting to share my ideas :p

anyway...

From research on some drugs, and philosophers I developed this idea. What if reality as we know it isn't even "real" per say. The entire universe is made up of chemicals, and reactions. Only pieces of elements, and matter. Energy. How did it become so complex that conciousness was created. How are things able to store, plan, and think out tasks just from elements, matter, and energy. There are so many things in the universe still unknown. But is that because our concious cannot create the idea. The thought of an idea never being original. Always copying off of someone elses. What if no one in the universe existed, and it was something all planned out by your brain. What is physical feeling.. touch, smell, taste, sight, and hearing. How are we able to conclude what these feelings mean, how does it tie in all so well? It's so complex that it seems impossible. I came up with the idea of inner beings. What if everything to the physical world was non existant, and a matter of imagination. Is our ideas and processes connected to our subconcious? Is our subconcious connected to something deeper in the universe and everyone is all tied to it? Do we even control our bodies, or are we assigned too? Just the thought of "time" being real is crazy. Have you ever had the feeling that time stops, or that you can hear time ticking? After all man did create time. I believe everything is controlled by minds, and it's all a matter of a "network" of minds. Everything created doesn't really exists. nothing does, it's just a form of information being transferred... no matter, no energy, but a different form of "substance".

If you have ever taken a "spiritual drug" then you might get where I'm coming from otherwise you are just brushing this off. But do you really have proof? the answer is no, you don't. I think we should study on the matter that makes up "living" and how things are really created. After all I could probably be talking on a forum created by my conciousness to make everything seem normal.

give your input I'd really like to see what you have to say.


FYI: Please don't make this a flame thread. thanks Smile
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06-11-2012, 07:49 PM #2
Josh
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Tl;dr, but sounded like you were describing The Matrix :fa:
06-11-2012, 07:54 PM #3
Im Po
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I've just been mindfucked...

Back on topic :p I'm not really sure what reality is or what our purpose is here but I tend not to question it as I'll just freak my self out with crazy theories and such. I've always wondered what happens when you die though..I've always believed in reincarnation as god is just a huge lie so heaven is bs to me..and don't flame me with religious shit stare
06-11-2012, 09:32 PM #4
Originally posted by Im
I've just been mindfucked...

Back on topic :p I'm not really sure what reality is or what our purpose is here but I tend not to question it as I'll just freak my self out with crazy theories and such. I've always wondered what happens when you die though..I've always believed in reincarnation as god is just a huge lie so heaven is bs to me..and don't flame me with religious shit stare


I think that when you die you are free'd from your body. (not god or anyshit) but like your concious can move freely doing whatever. Creating another universe for you to plan out w/e you want.

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06-11-2012, 09:35 PM #5
Im Po
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Originally posted by SatanicAmerican View Post
I think that when you die you are free'd from your body. (not god or anyshit) but like your concious can move freely doing whatever. Creating another universe for you to plan out w/e you want.


Interesting..The only fear I have of reincarnation is that I'll be born in Ethiopia or some 3rd world country and have a bad life, cause mine's pretty good at the moment :p Your belief would be pretty cool though, just flying and shit :fyea:

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06-11-2012, 10:12 PM #6
I think reality is whatever you make of it. Reality is defined by your own perception of it

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06-12-2012, 03:24 AM #7
Originally posted by Im
Interesting..The only fear I have of reincarnation is that I'll be born in Ethiopia or some 3rd world country and have a bad life, cause mine's pretty good at the moment :p Your belief would be pretty cool though, just flying and shit :fyea:


No not even re-incarnation. I mean like your subconcious is free'd and then it develops it's own "universe". "you" could not exist. You could create your own universe with flying triangles, and energy... it could be completely different from what we see it as now. For that to happen you'd have to be the only person ever.

That would mean that everyone in the universe what created by your brain, including yourself. O.o

pretty complex shit. It's all weird because no one really knows.

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06-12-2012, 05:05 AM #8
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Originally posted by SatanicAmerican View Post
From research on some drugs, and philosophers I developed this idea. What if reality as we know it isn't even "real" per say.

Have any evidence suggesting it?

Originally posted by another user
The entire universe is made up of chemicals, and reactions. Only pieces of elements, and matter. Energy. How did it become so complex that conciousness was created.

...so consciousness is the most complex thing in the universe? If that's what your saying you have no clue what your talking about. How about why is the speed of light constant, or why can molecular particles be bonded to react in opposite manners.

Originally posted by another user
How are things able to store, plan, and think out tasks just from elements, matter, and energy. There are so many things in the universe still unknown. But is that because our concious cannot create the idea.

No, it's that we have either:
1. Observed it, which is likely as we see such a fraction of the universe
2. Developed a mathematical equation for it, that works

Saying it's that we just can't is down right ridiculous. If you asked Newton about an atomic bomb he'd say your insane.

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The thought of an idea never being original. Always copying off of someone elses.

What? Newton, Einstein, Hawking, all original ideas...

Originally posted by another user
What if no one in the universe existed, and it was something all planned out by your brain.

Once again, without any evidence suggesting that there is no reason to believe that.

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What is physical feeling.. touch, smell, taste, sight, and hearing.

Sensations created through a complex nervous system

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How are we able to conclude what these feelings mean, how does it tie in all so well? It's so complex that it seems impossible.

...We know how they work very well, we've even mapped the human gnome.

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I came up with the idea of inner beings. What if everything to the physical world was non existant, and a matter of imagination.

Once again, without any evidence supporting it its just a random what-if.

Originally posted by another user
Is our ideas and processes connected to our subconcious? Is our subconcious connected to something deeper in the universe and everyone is all tied to it?

...What. It sounds like your saying your god.

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Do we even control our bodies, or are we assigned too?

...Once again, this has been answered biologically.

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Just the thought of "time" being real is crazy. Have you ever had the feeling that time stops, or that you can hear time ticking?

Time doesn't make noise...

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After all man did create time.

No we didn't... Time is linked in with the space-time relationship.

Originally posted by another user
I believe everything is controlled by minds, and it's all a matter of a "network" of minds. Everything created doesn't really exists. nothing does, it's just a form of information being transferred... no matter, no energy, but a different form of "substance".

...seriously any proof?

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If you have ever taken a "spiritual drug" then you might get where I'm coming from otherwise you are just brushing this off.

Oh, you mean if you've taken a drug that gives an altered sense of reality you might feel like reality has been altered. Who would have guessed?

Originally posted by another user
But do you really have proof? the answer is no, you don't.

Listen. The one making a claim requires proof. My proof that this reality is reality is the fact we are living it. Your proof is just a collection of conspiracy thoughts.

Originally posted by another user
I think we should study on the matter that makes up "living" and how things are really created.

We have... In fact we have mapped the human gnome.

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After all I could probably be talking on a forum created by my conciousness to make everything seem normal.
give your input I'd really like to see what you have to say.

I think you need more evidence before making such large claims. Also, if your really interested in what makes up everything look at some chemistry or biology. As for time, physics is doing a descent job.

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06-12-2012, 05:21 AM #9
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Lol. I was waiting on Just4Hax to come and break down the thread. :p

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06-12-2012, 06:06 PM #10
Originally posted by Just4Hax View Post
...stuff

You just completely ruined this thread :p
... anyway

I know all of those things stated above, I am not retarded. But you have to look outside the box It's one side of the story.

I mean how are things living. Yes we know there are receptors, but what energy, and makeup cause us to have feelings? We do not fully understand that yet. Yes we know where they are and how they function, but not how they are created, and how it's fully interpreted.

(to some of your replies)
1. Time was created by man... just like math was. sure things moving on was already there, but we didn't have a way of measuring it Enzo

2. No idea is original.. even newton, einstein, etc. I didn't say it had to come from a person. It could come from an object. etc.

3. Some of what I said I wasn't being literal. Of course time doesn't make sound, but that doesn't mean you can feel like it.


I'm saying there is more than just black and white. I didn't say I had any proof either, this is a what if thread.. It's supposed to make you think. Because the truth is we really don't know. We measured all the data with things humans have created. How is that proof, for all we know what we created could be wrong. I mean our math isn't even perfect, there are flaws in everything, yet the universe seems to have it all worked out. Also this had no relation to anything religious, from one of your posts you said something along the lines of "what, that makes it sound like you are god". No I did not mean for it to turn out like that. I mean something beyond our control could be controlling us, whether it be a person, sound, material, energy, matter.. etc.

Yes all the things you described is reality as we know it, but I'm trying to get people to think about reality as we don't know it. The unknown... It's like dark matter there is still so much to uncover about it.

I ask you to not take such a literal approach, and maybe you can enjoy this thread a little better Smile


btw: don't start to sound like such a prick. I don't want this to be a flame war, and you're kind of sparking it. Maybe I'm a little self concious but don't take a "are you retarded?" approach. Thanks just4.

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