Post: How to help someone overcome trust issues?
06-20-2012, 03:45 AM #1
Killua-
Let The Madness Reign
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Now. My friend we have known each other for months, I'm in love with her. She knows this. She's told me that she isnt ready for a boyfriend. But when she is I'll be the first one she comes to. We talk everyday, we are really close; however, We rarely get to see each other and we hardly ever gt to spend time together, hang out, and etc. She loves me I know this but she won't admit it because she is afraid I might hurt her in some way, shape, or form. This is not the case. She has also explained to me she has major trust issues. She doesn't trust me, yet we talk to each other everyday and we are best friends. She doesn't trust anyone. She barely trusts her own mother. The reason is because she feels that no one can be trusted because humans lie, steal, back stab, and put themselves before others. She hates the human race just like myself, I have had trut issues until I found someone to put my trust into. That someone is her. I consider myself a misanthropist. And she is starting to consider herself that swell. I'm in the process of trying to help her get over this. But it's hard, overcoming trust issues is a hard thing to do.
Trust is the most expensive thing on this Earth. Its in our nature to trust, it's an instinct. Without trust it can ruin relationships, friendships, bonds, and etc.

Basically what I'm asking for is some advice on what I should do to help her, she says she doesn't want to be helped because she likes keeping her personal life to herself and that's not healthy.

If you need anymore information about the issue just tell me and I'll pm you. I really need your help/advice on this fellow NGU members.

Thanks in advanced.

Also, don't come her trolling on this thread. It's not here for you to like it, and if you don't. No one asked you to click it. Or even come in this section to look for it.

Again, thanks in advance.
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Paul
06-20-2012, 09:03 PM #11
Paul
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Originally posted by Grumpy
I would agree with you but in this case not because he said he is 15 and she is 14 so she could be "attention seeking and just trying to be different" but it is more likely at 14 she isn't. Now there is plenty of 14 year old attention seeking girls, I know plenty. But I don't think this is the case.


Hey there.

My only reply to you is that, essentially, all 14/15 year old girls seek attention in some way, it's the way they have evolved psychologically. At that age they are transitioning between the latency & phallic stages of psychosexual development where the Id is only beginning to be regulated by the Ego. This causes them to seek attention and self-assurance, this happens in essentially everyone to varying degrees.

As for not being attention seeking because you are the only one who knows of her trust issue, that means absolutely nothing. Maybe she garners enough attention to satisfy her needs just from you? If not, I'm sure she is getting attention elsewhere in some form? You say she is a happy person, in my opinion, that is in direct contradiction to being a misanthrope, how can you possibly be happy whilst you are surrounded by those you hate on principle? As you said, a smile can hide things.

Furthermore, this is just my own opinion, but I refuse to see how she can tell you that she loves you when she does not trust you. Loving someone without trusting them completely just, in my opinion, cannot happen. To quote: "Loving someone is telling a person how to destroy you, and trusting them not to do so".

While, just to play Devil's Advocate, you say she likes to keep her personal life to herself and that doing so isn't healthy? I like keeping my personal life to myself, so do a lot of people, it's fine. The problem comes when you become a recluse and shut everyone out (or pretend to be doing so). I could equally retort to you and this girl that the both of you considering yourself misanthropes is totally unhealthy, look how many serial killers consider themselves misanthropes? Carl Panzram et cetera?

My point is, if she (and I refuse to believe this is true) doesn't trust her mother, there isn't a chance in hell she will trust you. Nothing you can do will be stronger than the biological and psychosexual link between a child and their mother. Also, disliking what humanity DOES is a lot different to disliking humanity, I'd be inclined to believe that she is tending towards asociality as opposed to misanthropy.

Finally, I'd like to say that none of this is a troll, none of this is intended to be mean, this is just what I believe based on my experiences and I believe this could help you one day. I look forward to your reply.

Cheers!

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Killua-
06-20-2012, 09:24 PM #12
Grumpy
Grumpy is God.
Originally posted by Paul View Post
Hey there.

My only reply to you is that, essentially, all 14/15 year old girls seek attention in some way, it's the way they have evolved psychologically. At that age they are transitioning between the latency & phallic stages of psychosexual development where the Id is only beginning to be regulated by the Ego. This causes them to seek attention and self-assurance, this happens in essentially everyone to varying degrees.

As for not being attention seeking because you are the only one who knows of her trust issue, that means absolutely nothing. Maybe she garners enough attention to satisfy her needs just from you? If not, I'm sure she is getting attention elsewhere in some form? You say she is a happy person, in my opinion, that is in direct contradiction to being a misanthrope, how can you possibly be happy whilst you are surrounded by those you hate on principle? As you said, a smile can hide things.

Furthermore, this is just my own opinion, but I refuse to see how she can tell you that she loves you when she does not trust you. Loving someone without trusting them completely just, in my opinion, cannot happen. To quote: "Loving someone is telling a person how to destroy you, and trusting them not to do so".

While, just to play Devil's Advocate, you say she likes to keep her personal life to herself and that doing so isn't healthy? I like keeping my personal life to myself, so do a lot of people, it's fine. The problem comes when you become a recluse and shut everyone out (or pretend to be doing so). I could equally retort to you and this girl that the both of you considering yourself misanthropes is totally unhealthy, look how many serial killers consider themselves misanthropes? Carl Panzram et cetera?

My point is, if she (and I refuse to believe this is true) doesn't trust her mother, there isn't a chance in hell she will trust you. Nothing you can do will be stronger than the biological and psychosexual link between a child and their mother. Also, disliking what humanity DOES is a lot different to disliking humanity, I'd be inclined to believe that she is tending towards asociality as opposed to misanthropy.

Finally, I'd like to say that none of this is a troll, none of this is intended to be mean, this is just what I believe based on my experiences and I believe this could help you one day. I look forward to your reply.

Cheers!


Bro, I believe you have quoted the wrong person. I'm not the OP. Well said none the less though.

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06-20-2012, 09:29 PM #13
Paul
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Originally posted by Grumpy
Bro, I believe you have quoted the wrong person. I'm not the OP. Well said none the less though.

Hey Grumpy.

Nah, I quoted you to reply to you, but then continued on and replied to the OP in the same post as I was on a roll. Happy!

Cheers!
06-21-2012, 04:09 AM #14
M.Mac
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Are you sure you didn't get friend zoned?

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Killua-
06-21-2012, 07:49 PM #15
Killua-
Let The Madness Reign
Originally posted by Paul View Post
Hey there.

My only reply to you is that, essentially, all 14/15 year old girls seek attention in some way, it's the way they have evolved psychologically. At that age they are transitioning between the latency & phallic stages of psychosexual development where the Id is only beginning to be regulated by the Ego. This causes them to seek attention and self-assurance, this happens in essentially everyone to varying degrees.

As for not being attention seeking because you are the only one who knows of her trust issue, that means absolutely nothing. Maybe she garners enough attention to satisfy her needs just from you? If not, I'm sure she is getting attention elsewhere in some form? You say she is a happy person, in my opinion, that is in direct contradiction to being a misanthrope, how can you possibly be happy whilst you are surrounded by those you hate on principle? As you said, a smile can hide things.

Furthermore, this is just my own opinion, but I refuse to see how she can tell you that she loves you when she does not trust you. Loving someone without trusting them completely just, in my opinion, cannot happen. To quote: "Loving someone is telling a person how to destroy you, and trusting them not to do so".

While, just to play Devil's Advocate, you say she likes to keep her personal life to herself and that doing so isn't healthy? I like keeping my personal life to myself, so do a lot of people, it's fine. The problem comes when you become a recluse and shut everyone out (or pretend to be doing so). I could equally retort to you and this girl that the both of you considering yourself misanthropes is totally unhealthy, look how many serial killers consider themselves misanthropes? Carl Panzram et cetera?

My point is, if she (and I refuse to believe this is true) doesn't trust her mother, there isn't a chance in hell she will trust you. Nothing you can do will be stronger than the biological and psychosexual link between a child and their mother. Also, disliking what humanity DOES is a lot different to disliking humanity, I'd be inclined to believe that she is tending towards asociality as opposed to misanthropy.

Finally, I'd like to say that none of this is a troll, none of this is intended to be mean, this is just what I believe based on my experiences and I believe this could help you one day. I look forward to your reply.

Cheers!


You'd make a great therapist. Lol I dont really consider myself a misanthropist. I just dot like certain people. As for her you may be on to something bigger then what I could've ver thought. stare

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