Post: My time being here as part of staff and the community of NextGenUpdate.
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07-11-2012, 02:22 AM
#1
Reaper
The Grim Reaper
So I started getting active in the community and had some stupid bumps in the road but who doesn't? I think I got infracted for rep boosting 1 time and a couple other stupid shit but I am an example on why people deserve 2nd chances and should not be looked down on the stupid shit they did. No 3rd chances etc.. just a 2nd chance and if you fuck up after that you're done. I started to get to know more and more people etc.. Played games on the consoles and got talking to outie on aim etc.. when he was able to get on started to get to know each other and seeing from his point of view I really cared about ngu and boom I became staff in June of 2010 and becoming more with the community etc.. and working my way up through the ranks and finally becoming admin in oct. of 2011.
Alright so that was basically my journey story or something along those lines but now we get down into the nitty gritty. It feels as if back then people actually cared on the site and now hardly anybody does. Like a select few and others are like fuck it. Back then it feels like there was a push that made people want to do more and more because everybody cared and worked together. Back in my time mod stats actually mattered and you would not even have to warn anybody for being to low. shit I think everybody was pretty high in the ranks and actually had mod stats wars to see who was #1 etc but was a friendly competition in the end. This is when all staff got along and there was something like idk what I would call let's call it a "PUSH" that made everybody want to put in some effort into the whole site. there was even a push to mod the forums even when you had enough and you knew you had enough stats or whatever to be fine for the next months. There was so many caring people I could not even believe it and we all worked together on projects and shit and everybody got along. Nobody went off and did there own little secret shit bla bla and got everybody into it so everybody felt together and wanted to do more. shiver, gobble, enzo, rjive, paul, battman, jim, shit the list could go on with ex-staff on people that cared and wanted to help even more but released it was starting to get to why and I doing this anymore since nobody else really started to not care?
I remember when shiver deleted himself or should I say AlphaMudafuckinDenver
(holy shit first smiley used in this thread dayumm) but yeah people thought this was a joke as it was by April fools days but I kid you not he came into the modbox like a G and posted this song right here: It just feels like there is so many wanna be trolls here and just fuck shit up for the rest of us. Or to many I don't give a fuck people. Back in the day you were respect even on staff you were respect I think it's kinda all a big joke now. Some staff joining along in the bullshit that goes on and then says why is this place like this now. Well hurr durr I wonder why. If you got staff acting like a joke then the members see it and it spreads almost lets call it like a virus. Oh he can do that then I can do that. You gotta think like 80% of this community is teenagers including myself but you got most of then that will be copy cats and do the same shit you do. Then you go ban people/guest them whatever and people start rebeloins over that and shit goes down etc... rep was fuckin awesome before it got changed. It almost made you feel like a bad ass to have respect etc.. since nobody negs you you could fuck up their shit if they do etc.. or help them out a shit load with rep bla bla.
Man I know I will be forgetting a shit load in this thread but I'm trying to think about all the stuff I know well the big stuff I guess to put in this thread but if I have more stuff to add I might just make another thread or edit this but this is getting kinda long I guess lol. But yeah back then it felt like there was push/urge to do more and everybody was just happy to work together and 1 whole team unlike now I would call it. I mean I have had my own thoughts on making my own site and shit etc after I retired and shit but now that I think about it is why? I already belong to this big community why not stay here and try to make shit better or something? Anything helps I guess but still. Gonnna need alot of duck tape here I guess. But I shall stay here and fix things etc.. You get my flow. :p
We need to do something to put this place back in over drive or should I say poppin like it was back in the days that it was good. It happened before and I'm pretty sure if everybody puts their minds to it then we all could make it happen. I mean shit we can even put a video up on the ngs channel without it getting tons of dislikes? Some bs I call that. We all have to work together to make shit happen and I can see that happening. So I had a couple ideas that came to mine and shit so here it goes.
We need to spread stuff out. And I mean go big or go home! Let's do some new domains that focus on other forums Idea different things.. Maybe like a computer discussion site etc... but all the domains would always bring linked back to the main site which is here ngu. I mean we are the next gen updates site arn't we? the next big generating or all updates etc.. We gotta expand stuff and get new people and who knows maybe if they join one site they will come to ngu and spark a lil gaming in them or something. Try something new. When there is no glitches hacks or something then you gotta move on with something else but still keep it. You never know until you try it right? Life is like a box a chocolates you never know what you gonna get right?
Well I can't believe I just typed all this up lol this is crazy (and I just met you can I get ya numba?) :p anyways if you guys want to get into a movement to make this place better again etc... then hell yeah let's goooo! any ideas post below. remember 1 idea can go far.
I probably forgot a couple things but like I said above maybe 2nd part or something but for now that is it and I hope you guys read it even though how fuckin long this is but yup.
Regards, Reaper
Edit: Also I don't mean to get into any fights with anybody or anything etc.. This is just how I saw it and thought I would share since this general discussion right?
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07-11-2012, 09:45 PM
#47
Lovol
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Originally posted by Aiiden.
How do you expect people to change if you keep bringing the past everytime they do anything ? I tried in the first days after getting unbanned, I tried to get back to the days where I helped and posted good stuff on ngu but everytime dumbasses like you broke it all and made me think everything I would do, post would get people mad at me .. The only persons that helped me get through all of that are NeedaLifeSoon and Ownage and I thank them for that .. Right now I stoped posting because everytime I post my opinion or anything all I get is hate, -rep and stuff like that ? You really think that helped ? No ! People being dicks at me.. What do you expect ? Me licking your ass just so you appreciate me ? If a member is liked by everyone of course hes going to be nice too but if you're a dick to me dont expect something else .. Also you are on a forum and you shouldn't talk as you are the only one, ask people who like me how I am really and then think about it . The only thing I wish is people to move on from the past but I guess thats not happening anytime soon so yeah.. Also you should check my dispute thread when I got banned and you will see that I tried to get everything in order but SU44K8 didn't accept my offer which was : Give me back my account for a refund . In case you didn't know, he bought the account off of me but he didn't pay as gift.. He sent the money as he bought something that had be delivered... I never scammed anyone I went through alot of deals before that and early when I joined NGU I had a deal I sold an account for $80 and I never ever thought of scamming that guy I could do it, I wasn't even premium I could have scammed him and don't give a fuck about NGU but as I said I never scammed anyone so I didn't even think about it 
Last thing, I don't really care if you don't like me, I know who does and they know I am not that kind of person you think I am . That's all I care about .
---------- Post added at 11:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:34 PM ----------
You are former staff you should be able to -rep ;P
Last thing, I don't really care if you don't like me, I know who does and they know I am not that kind of person you think I am . That's all I care about .---------- Post added at 11:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:34 PM ----------
You are former staff you should be able to -rep ;P
07-11-2012, 09:52 PM
#48
Gizmo
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Originally posted by Ameht
I agree , and I have many more proof of such acts from Liam, Matt , and Foxaz and a few of your prior peers , Ex staff doing silly stuff like that frustrates me because Ex staff members should know better and be better examples.
I swear you have a personal vendetta against all staff :carling:
Originally posted by Ameht
Agreed. Before people would get infractions for saying faggots or flaming and now they get +rep. We need -Neg rep back in my Opinion
Although I still have -rep abilities, I think the community needs it for us to have a balanced system, even if it is capped, it's a deterrent for LQP's.
07-11-2012, 10:00 PM
#50
MATT23116
Guest
You've made a lot of good points Reaper, as well as Omni. However the sad truth is that any amount of these threads isn't going to change anything, that's on the admins and whether or not they actually care enough to start listening to what people (and their own staff) have been saying for months.
Right, so now I may as well add my two cents to the thread. I'm going to speak from my personal experience and give my completely honest opinion formed through 7+ months on staff. I know this opinion is also shared by many others, and not too many of them have the balls to say what I'm about to out of fear of being banned when it's all just the honest truth.
So I've tried to type it all out to make it as short as possible while still keeping my main points, hopefully it will be a good read for some of you.
I have been site banned and SB banned plenty of times for speaking my mind, and it may have seemed negative at the time, but now I'm going to type it all out, as well as my reasoning behind what I say. So hopefully this makes things a little more sensible for the people who think I'm nothing but an "Ex-Staff Troll"
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For one, I'm pretty sure slim to none of the admins actually get along. They are always trying to catch other admins slipping up and they all try and belittle each other, I've seen it with the newer and older / retired admins, they all want to make it known that they are more needed as admin than (insert name here). Obviously that doesn't help getting anything productive accomplished, when the top management on the site can't work together as an actual team. You would expect this kind of thing with lower level staff "competing for the top spot" but when you get there, is it really necessary to hold retarded grudges like they are now? I mean you've got unlimited power to help the site, use it for something good instead of bickering back and forth.
ENZO seems to have forgotten that he was just promoted to code things, not to try and be a community admin. Seriously what is with him trying to turn the entire forum hierarchy into some shitty call of duty-esque model. "brb private premium v10 but this time it will work because It's my version" :dumb: Thank god we finally got rid of these worthless rep prestiges. They may have actually been a good idea if he thought about the amount of time it takes to gain enough rep to prestige and adjusted it accordingly, but that wasn't the case.
I do believe that Outsider has good intentions but is focusing his efforts on the wrong things when he actually is online. Yeah he may say he's trying to get more users to join, and increase activity; but it's hypocritical to say that, start something like NGS and only post 1 (intro) video, especially when most of the hype for the channel was based on the fact that HE would be active on it. Instead we've got Media Team v2.0 flooding NGS with their monotone, bland commentaries which struggle to get over 1,000 views even after being plastered on the index page for weeks. There is a reason why they aren't getting views, and it's not because of a small community or a lack of caring members. Quality > Quantity, and NGS has had neither since the AskACapper video, and this has been months.
Another upsetting thing is that admins don't even do anything (even small stuff) until getting approval from Outsider. I thought the point of being promoted to admin was because Outsider felt they were trustworthy and could make clear decisions on their own? Apparently that is not the case.
I seriously hope someone who is an admin is reading this, because nothing will ever change until one of you decide to take action, and this brings me to my final point on the Reputation issue.
As far as I can remember, rep was disabled one day when NP got on and raged over a SBPM of someone crying about being -repped. Ever since it returned, each admin has tried to tamper with it, as you've seen with the rep prestiges and various rep caps over the last year or so, And I've made this argument before and I am still going with it:
The reason the community feels less active is because everyone is treated equally in terms of rep. This makes people who have worked their asses off feel limited and worthless because now Joe the Scammer has just as much rep power and influence on here as they do. On top of this, having negative rep removed is painful, because there is no way to punish the people who make retarded posts or get on everyone's nerves. Now they either prosper or ultimately get banned (unlikely). It almost feels out of balance, everyone can post the most retarded shit and not have any repercussion, and THIS IS WHY WE SEE SPIKES IN IMMATURE USERS IN THE SHOUTBOX.
Seriously I don't get how none of you admins have understood this, It's very simple, and could be fixed, meanwhile nothing is happening and NGU just goes on day by day becoming more unattractive to committed members. You have to be braindead if you can't see this by now, there have been some GREAT moderators leave recently due to everything I've stated, and I left because of it also. There comes a point where It's not even worth trying to fight, this is why people are just giving up on the staff here.
Speaking of staff, they need to be smacked into shape. I'm still not sure what "Gaming Squad" is, but I constantly see different Event Staff saying very immature things in the shoutbox and setting an awful example for newer members.
There is no point, I don't get what goes through Outsider's head when he decided to ban them, but at the end of the day there's nothing you can do. I know that when Outsider started pulling shit like that it pissed off a bunch of other supers and mods. It made a bunch of people want to retire, because what's the point in wasting time and effort trying to moderate disputes and infracting scammers if it's just all going to be undone when they message him on facebook a month later and he lets them back on? Scammers are scammers and they will never change. I guess he thinks that they bring some sort of "value" if they come back and are active again, when in reality they are still losers who make the site worse and prey on the loyal members, literally the lowest of the low users.
Right, so now I may as well add my two cents to the thread. I'm going to speak from my personal experience and give my completely honest opinion formed through 7+ months on staff. I know this opinion is also shared by many others, and not too many of them have the balls to say what I'm about to out of fear of being banned when it's all just the honest truth.
So I've tried to type it all out to make it as short as possible while still keeping my main points, hopefully it will be a good read for some of you.
I have been site banned and SB banned plenty of times for speaking my mind, and it may have seemed negative at the time, but now I'm going to type it all out, as well as my reasoning behind what I say. So hopefully this makes things a little more sensible for the people who think I'm nothing but an "Ex-Staff Troll"
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For one, I'm pretty sure slim to none of the admins actually get along. They are always trying to catch other admins slipping up and they all try and belittle each other, I've seen it with the newer and older / retired admins, they all want to make it known that they are more needed as admin than (insert name here). Obviously that doesn't help getting anything productive accomplished, when the top management on the site can't work together as an actual team. You would expect this kind of thing with lower level staff "competing for the top spot" but when you get there, is it really necessary to hold retarded grudges like they are now? I mean you've got unlimited power to help the site, use it for something good instead of bickering back and forth.
ENZO seems to have forgotten that he was just promoted to code things, not to try and be a community admin. Seriously what is with him trying to turn the entire forum hierarchy into some shitty call of duty-esque model. "brb private premium v10 but this time it will work because It's my version" :dumb: Thank god we finally got rid of these worthless rep prestiges. They may have actually been a good idea if he thought about the amount of time it takes to gain enough rep to prestige and adjusted it accordingly, but that wasn't the case.
I do believe that Outsider has good intentions but is focusing his efforts on the wrong things when he actually is online. Yeah he may say he's trying to get more users to join, and increase activity; but it's hypocritical to say that, start something like NGS and only post 1 (intro) video, especially when most of the hype for the channel was based on the fact that HE would be active on it. Instead we've got Media Team v2.0 flooding NGS with their monotone, bland commentaries which struggle to get over 1,000 views even after being plastered on the index page for weeks. There is a reason why they aren't getting views, and it's not because of a small community or a lack of caring members. Quality > Quantity, and NGS has had neither since the AskACapper video, and this has been months.
Another upsetting thing is that admins don't even do anything (even small stuff) until getting approval from Outsider. I thought the point of being promoted to admin was because Outsider felt they were trustworthy and could make clear decisions on their own? Apparently that is not the case.
I seriously hope someone who is an admin is reading this, because nothing will ever change until one of you decide to take action, and this brings me to my final point on the Reputation issue.
As far as I can remember, rep was disabled one day when NP got on and raged over a SBPM of someone crying about being -repped. Ever since it returned, each admin has tried to tamper with it, as you've seen with the rep prestiges and various rep caps over the last year or so, And I've made this argument before and I am still going with it:
The reason the community feels less active is because everyone is treated equally in terms of rep. This makes people who have worked their asses off feel limited and worthless because now Joe the Scammer has just as much rep power and influence on here as they do. On top of this, having negative rep removed is painful, because there is no way to punish the people who make retarded posts or get on everyone's nerves. Now they either prosper or ultimately get banned (unlikely). It almost feels out of balance, everyone can post the most retarded shit and not have any repercussion, and THIS IS WHY WE SEE SPIKES IN IMMATURE USERS IN THE SHOUTBOX.
Seriously I don't get how none of you admins have understood this, It's very simple, and could be fixed, meanwhile nothing is happening and NGU just goes on day by day becoming more unattractive to committed members. You have to be braindead if you can't see this by now, there have been some GREAT moderators leave recently due to everything I've stated, and I left because of it also. There comes a point where It's not even worth trying to fight, this is why people are just giving up on the staff here.
Speaking of staff, they need to be smacked into shape. I'm still not sure what "Gaming Squad" is, but I constantly see different Event Staff saying very immature things in the shoutbox and setting an awful example for newer members.
Originally posted by Ownage
I have to agree though, I don't see the point in unbanning scammers.
There is no point, I don't get what goes through Outsider's head when he decided to ban them, but at the end of the day there's nothing you can do. I know that when Outsider started pulling shit like that it pissed off a bunch of other supers and mods. It made a bunch of people want to retire, because what's the point in wasting time and effort trying to moderate disputes and infracting scammers if it's just all going to be undone when they message him on facebook a month later and he lets them back on? Scammers are scammers and they will never change. I guess he thinks that they bring some sort of "value" if they come back and are active again, when in reality they are still losers who make the site worse and prey on the loyal members, literally the lowest of the low users.
07-11-2012, 10:09 PM
#51
Ameht!
Dark Knight
Originally posted by Gizmo
I swear you have a personal vendetta against all staff :carling:
Although I still have -rep abilities, I think the community needs it for us to have a balanced system, even if it is capped, it's a deterrent for LQP's.
Although I still have -rep abilities, I think the community needs it for us to have a balanced system, even if it is capped, it's a deterrent for LQP's.
Nah bro to tell you the truth I enjoy most of the Staff at the movement only reason I have minor problems with you is due to the -rep situation. Your able to neg me when I make a stupid post but when you do it I can't? I am glad that at least on this we agree. The only staff I truly have problems with was Dopey and Carling , I do not have a Vendetta just feel that Staff and Ex Staff should be good examples of this Forum , If Ex staff and Staff all day long just Troll and try to Russel people's Jimmies then the General Member will be enticed to follow in their footsteps.
07-11-2012, 10:58 PM
#52
waltuO
N'wahs With Attitude
srs post incoming
On the topic of Admins, following on from what MATT said, I remember when I was staff, a main issue they were trying to address was Admin (and staff overall, but particularly Admin) communication with both each other and the rest of the staff team. Now I assume this was an issue spanning across all of my time as staff, and when it was addressed, shit got done. We were all encouraged to work as more of a team, and being staff was more fun because we all got along and could have a joke, and work together on the forums. Now, it seems, that this is not the case. Current mods and mods that have recently left have said that moderating, or being part of the staff team, is not fun any more, and that there's no communication between staff members. Make the staff team enjoyable and the staff will actually have a positive attitude towards the site and its development.
You have to realise that none of us are forced to come on here, and the members that do want to see the site grow and have contributed to the site are being pushed away by the bad decisions and other shenanigans that go on. Seriously, what is going on with the rep situation? People liked the idea of rep prestiges, but they were implemented badly and people didn't like them. Just stop messing with it. Return it to what it was, with uncapped rep and neg rep. I don't see why not. People have worked hard to get their rep up and when they get past 15k they shouldn't have the attitude of 'fuck it, my rep power can't get any higher so I'm not going to help out or post quality threads any more'. Yes users should always want to help out and not just have rep on their mind but they do, and you can't change it. Rep encourages quality threads and neg rep prevents bad threads from being posted. Really, there are so many bad threads and it is annoying that all you have to do to stop them is add the neg rep function. People don't abuse it either. I'm sure the staff that were around when neg rep was available will agree that the majority of people who cried over being neg repped deserved it in the first place. I really do not see the problem in bringing it back.
Anyway, please don't see this as a stab at the site or the staff, because it isn't. This is a mature post from a member who doesn't like the direction and decisions that NGU has been taking recently.
tl;dr make staff nicer, communicate, uncap rep
On the topic of Admins, following on from what MATT said, I remember when I was staff, a main issue they were trying to address was Admin (and staff overall, but particularly Admin) communication with both each other and the rest of the staff team. Now I assume this was an issue spanning across all of my time as staff, and when it was addressed, shit got done. We were all encouraged to work as more of a team, and being staff was more fun because we all got along and could have a joke, and work together on the forums. Now, it seems, that this is not the case. Current mods and mods that have recently left have said that moderating, or being part of the staff team, is not fun any more, and that there's no communication between staff members. Make the staff team enjoyable and the staff will actually have a positive attitude towards the site and its development.
You have to realise that none of us are forced to come on here, and the members that do want to see the site grow and have contributed to the site are being pushed away by the bad decisions and other shenanigans that go on. Seriously, what is going on with the rep situation? People liked the idea of rep prestiges, but they were implemented badly and people didn't like them. Just stop messing with it. Return it to what it was, with uncapped rep and neg rep. I don't see why not. People have worked hard to get their rep up and when they get past 15k they shouldn't have the attitude of 'fuck it, my rep power can't get any higher so I'm not going to help out or post quality threads any more'. Yes users should always want to help out and not just have rep on their mind but they do, and you can't change it. Rep encourages quality threads and neg rep prevents bad threads from being posted. Really, there are so many bad threads and it is annoying that all you have to do to stop them is add the neg rep function. People don't abuse it either. I'm sure the staff that were around when neg rep was available will agree that the majority of people who cried over being neg repped deserved it in the first place. I really do not see the problem in bringing it back.
Anyway, please don't see this as a stab at the site or the staff, because it isn't. This is a mature post from a member who doesn't like the direction and decisions that NGU has been taking recently.
tl;dr make staff nicer, communicate, uncap rep
07-11-2012, 11:00 PM
#53
rjive
Love Big Titty Bitches
Wow, I didn't read every post in this thread, but there are a lot of good points being made here. I have had my experience on staff. If you look at the different ideas and thoughts that are brought to the table, they're coming from different sources. The ages of the members, backgrounds and skill sets deliver an eclectic mix.
You run into a few issues in putting these into actions. Money, ability, permissions and drive to execute. I think it's important to keep this community in perspective. Recognize what it is and isn't. If you're trying to fit it into a square box and it's round... shit ain't ever gonna fit. :y:
As for all of your comments on the staff members (past and present)... There have been good and bad seeds. Same for members (Joe the scammer, love that phrase) and the contributors. In the end all of these members are people... We have flaws. I have seen this community change tones a few different times. In the end its the relationships that you build here. In my opinion, that's what this site offers me... relationships.
The growth and goals of this site will be determined by one person. Outsider.
Reaper made some good points about people working to build this community up. From my point of view, there have been ebbs and flows with that tone of the site. There have been ebbs and flows of the humor and fun times. What was trolling 6 months ago is now humor and vice versa. I think it's important to keep a positive attitude and realize what this site offers you... Stop worrying about what it isn't and more on what it is. Make sense?
Why do you visit NGU?
You run into a few issues in putting these into actions. Money, ability, permissions and drive to execute. I think it's important to keep this community in perspective. Recognize what it is and isn't. If you're trying to fit it into a square box and it's round... shit ain't ever gonna fit. :y:
As for all of your comments on the staff members (past and present)... There have been good and bad seeds. Same for members (Joe the scammer, love that phrase) and the contributors. In the end all of these members are people... We have flaws. I have seen this community change tones a few different times. In the end its the relationships that you build here. In my opinion, that's what this site offers me... relationships.
The growth and goals of this site will be determined by one person. Outsider.
Reaper made some good points about people working to build this community up. From my point of view, there have been ebbs and flows with that tone of the site. There have been ebbs and flows of the humor and fun times. What was trolling 6 months ago is now humor and vice versa. I think it's important to keep a positive attitude and realize what this site offers you... Stop worrying about what it isn't and more on what it is. Make sense?
Why do you visit NGU?
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07-12-2012, 01:04 AM
#54
Omniplasma
Rookie
Originally posted by Aiiden.
How do you expect people to change if you keep bringing the past everytime they do anything ? I tried in the first days after getting unbanned, I tried to get back to the days where I helped and posted good stuff on ngu but everytime dumbasses like you broke it all and made me think everything I would do, post would get people mad at me .. The only persons that helped me get through all of that are NeedaLifeSoon and Ownage and I thank them for that .. Right now I stoped posting because everytime I post my opinion or anything all I get is hate, -rep and stuff like that ? You really think that helped ? No ! People being dicks at me.. What do you expect ? Me licking your ass just so you appreciate me ? If a member is liked by everyone of course hes going to be nice too but if you're a dick to me dont expect something else .. Also you are on a forum and you shouldn't talk as you are the only one, ask people who like me how I am really and then think about it . The only thing I wish is people to move on from the past but I guess thats not happening anytime soon so yeah.. Also you should check my dispute thread when I got banned and you will see that I tried to get everything in order but SU44K8 didn't accept my offer which was : Give me back my account for a refund . In case you didn't know, he bought the account off of me but he didn't pay as gift.. He sent the money as he bought something that had be delivered... I never scammed anyone I went through alot of deals before that and early when I joined NGU I had a deal I sold an account for $80 and I never ever thought of scamming that guy I could do it, I wasn't even premium I could have scammed him and don't give a fuck about NGU but as I said I never scammed anyone so I didn't even think about it Last thing, I don't really care if you don't like me, I know who does and they know I am not that kind of person you think I am . That's all I care about .
---------- Post added at 11:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:34 PM ----------
You are former staff you should be able to -rep ;P
Last thing, I don't really care if you don't like me, I know who does and they know I am not that kind of person you think I am . That's all I care about .---------- Post added at 11:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:34 PM ----------
You are former staff you should be able to -rep ;P
You're a stand-up guy, and I appreciate that. I don't see why Dylan is saying anything about anyone getting unbanned anyways, he's been banned and unbanned in the past, yet still the only thing he does is spread negativity.
07-12-2012, 05:34 AM
#55
LuckyAiden
Samurai Poster
Originally posted by Omniplasma
You're a stand-up guy, and I appreciate that. I don't see why Dylan is saying anything about anyone getting unbanned anyways, he's been banned and unbanned in the past, yet still the only thing he does is spread negativity.
I try to but then fools like him talk shit about me and other sheeps just follow...
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