Post: What do you think Earth would be like without religion?
07-11-2012, 04:13 PM #1
Killua-
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(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Well walking a few days ago me and my friend stumbled upon an argument. What would the world be like without religion? He said there would be more crime and etc. Although people don't commit crime because their religion says not to. They do it because of laws. To put it bluntly if you commit a crime you go to jail. I said that there would be less controversy and fighting over which religion is right and blah blah blah, and that we would come together as people and have more technological advances. I look at it like this. No religion=Star Wars on Earth. He looks as it as. No religion=More Crime on Earth.

What do you guys think? Discuss.
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07-11-2012, 04:36 PM #11
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Originally posted by RGB View Post
what are the chances of him being how we portray him though :/


Exactly no one has actually seen God. We only have speculations and theories of how he acts, looks, and thinks. These all come from the bible. But there is no other evidence other than that. Who knows? God might be some 6 legged creature or something.

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Originally posted by Jango View Post
Yes, but many people don't do these things because they want to an afterlife of some sort or they are afraid that "god" will punish them in some way.

( I am agnostic )


I see your point.
07-11-2012, 04:40 PM #12
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Originally posted by xZone
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You type 'God' into Google Images you get a bunch of pictures of a White Man?
Why does it have to be a Man, Why not a Woman?
Why does it have to be White, Why not Black?

God is anything people believe IT to be, whether it be Person or an 8-Armed Elephant (No Offence :p)
People just believe what they are told, hence different Religions have different, believable Gods.


Holy Hell you've made a wonderful point. That's a good theory God might look different in another person's eyes if they ever do come in contact with him. We might all see different things based on what we believe to see.
07-11-2012, 04:48 PM #13
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Originally posted by xZone
Oh the Irony of you saying 'Holy Hell' :lol:
I don't believe in God, but I do believe in Life after Death... I mean who knows, maybe this is the 'Afterlife'? :angel:


I believe in God. I'm Christian. Although Christianity is not the main base of religion to believe in God. I believe Christianity is all of the religions into one. The only religion I would say is most accurate is Judaism. Or being Jewish. If you really think about it, it makes sense. Who knows what happens when we die. There could be Heaven, Hell, Purgatory, or we could just become nothing. Once you reply I'll quote you back with a story I've read.

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07-11-2012, 04:51 PM #14
Never thought about that. It would be chaos. It would be fun! Winky Winky
07-11-2012, 04:54 PM #15
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Yes…the world would be better without religion. You can still have spirituality and belief in God, but religion has caused numerous problems…such as the crusades, dark ages, more recently, the middle east conflicts, 9/11, Pan Am 103 bombing, Ireland bombings, Oklahoma city bombing, 1996 Olympics Bombing, London Bombing, Bali…all of these acts of terrorism are result of religion. The world would be MUCH MUCH MUCH safer without religion.

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07-11-2012, 04:58 PM #16
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Originally posted by RedFlowz View Post
Yes…the world would be better without religion. You can still have spirituality and belief in God, but religion has caused numerous problems…such as the crusades, dark ages, more recently, the middle east conflicts, 9/11, Pan Am 103 bombing, Ireland bombings, Oklahoma city bombing, 1996 Olympics Bombing, London Bombing, Bali…all of these acts of terrorism are result of religion. The world would be MUCH MUCH MUCH safer without religion.


That's the same thing I'm thinking. But then again we could be wrong.

Originally posted by NikeStix View Post
Never thought about that. It would be chaos. It would be fun! Winky Winky


What? Explain how it would be chaos. We still have laws....
07-11-2012, 05:00 PM #17
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Originally posted by Killua
Well walking a few days ago me and my friend stumbled upon an argument. What would the world be like without religion? He said there would be more crime and etc. Although people don't commit crime because their religion says not to. They do it because of laws. To put it bluntly if you commit a crime you go to jail. I said that there would be less controversy and fighting over which religion is right and blah blah blah, and that we would come together as people and have more technological advances. I look at it like this. No religion=Star Wars on Earth. He looks as it as. No religion=More Crime on Earth.

What do you guys think? Discuss.


We would be an advance Civilization. Religion is the one who stopped the progress of scientist , If they wouldn't have we would've had electricity by the 1800's or even before. Religion is a cult.

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07-11-2012, 05:01 PM #18
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Originally posted by Killua
Well walking a few days ago me and my friend stumbled upon an argument. What would the world be like without religion? He said there would be more crime and etc. Although people don't commit crime because their religion says not to. They do it because of laws. To put it bluntly if you commit a crime you go to jail. I said that there would be less controversy and fighting over which religion is right and blah blah blah, and that we would come together as people and have more technological advances. I look at it like this. No religion=Star Wars on Earth. He looks as it as. No religion=More Crime on Earth.

What do you guys think? Discuss.


If Religion didn't exist, What Year would it be? :carling:

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07-11-2012, 05:06 PM #19
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Originally posted by GIRAFA View Post
If Religion didn't exist, What Year would it be? :carling:


Lol cannot unthink. I hate you for that.

Originally posted by Ameht
We would be an advance Civilization. Religion is the one who stopped the progress of scientist , If they wouldn't have we would've had electricity by the 1800's or even before. Religion is a cult.


Exactly. This is what I'm talking about. Some of you understand. Right on the spot sir. :y:

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Originally posted by GIRAFA View Post
If Religion didn't exist, What Year would it be? :carling:


Originally posted by Ameht
We would be an advance Civilization. Religion is the one who stopped the progress of scientist , If they wouldn't have we would've had electricity by the 1800's or even before. Religion is a cult.


Originally posted by xZone
Story Pls Needa


It was a car accident. Nothing particularly remarkable, but fatal nonetheless. You left behind a wife and two children. It was a painless death. The EMTs tried their best to save you, but to no avail. Your body was so utterly shattered you were better off, trust me.

And that's when you met me.

"What... what happened?" You asked. "Where am I?"

"You died," I said, matter-of-factly. No point mincing words.

"There was a...a truck and it was skidding..."

"Yup." I said

"I... I died?"

"Yup. But don't feel bad about it. Everyone dies." I said.

You looked around. There was nothingness. Just you and me. "What is this place?" You asked. "Is this the afterlife?"

"More or less," I said.

"Are you god?" You asked.

"Yup." I replied. "I'm God."

"My kids... my wife," you said.

"What about them?"

"Will they be alright?"

"That what I like to see," I said. "You just died and your main concern is for your family. That's good stuff right there."

You looked at me with fascination. To you, I didn't look like God. I just looked like some man. Some vague authority figure. More of a grammar school teacher than the almighty.

"Don't worry," I said. "They'll be fine. Your kids will remember you as perfect in every way. They didn't have time to grow contempt for you. Your wife will cry on the outside, but will be secretly relieved. To be fair, your marriage was falling apart. If it's any consolation, she'll feel very guilty for feeling relieved."

"Oh," you said. "So what happens now? Do I go to heaven or hell or something?"

"Neither," I said. "You'll be reincarnated."

"Ah," you said. "So the Hindus were right."

"All the religions are right in their own way," I said. "Walk with me."

You followed along as we strolled in the void. "Where are we going?" "Nowhere in particular," I said. "It's just nice to walk while we talk."

"So what's the point, then?" You asked. "When I get reborn, I'll just be a blank slate, right? A baby. So all my experiences and everything I did in this life won't matter."

"Not so!" I said. "You have within you all the knowledge and experiences of all your past lives. You just don't remember them right now."

I stopped walking and took you by the shoulders. "Your soul is more magnificent, beautiful, and gigantic than you can possibly imagine. A human mind can only contain a tiny fraction of what you are. It's like sticking your finger in a glass of water to see if it's hot or cold. You put a tiny part or yourself into the vessel, and when you bring it back out, you've gained all the experiences it had."

"You've been a human for the last 34 years, so you haven't stretched out yet and felt the rest of your immense consciousness. If we hung out here for longer, you'd start remembering everything. But there's no point doing that between each life."

"How many times have I been reincarnated, then?"

"Oh, lots. Lots and lots. And into lots of different lives." I said. "This time around you'll be a Chinese peasant girl in 540 A.D."

"Wait, what?" You stammered. "You're sending me back in time?"

"Well, I guess technically. Time, as you know it, only exists in your universe. Things are different where I come from."

"Where do you come from?" You pondered.

"Oh sure!" I explained. "I come from somewhere. somewhere else. and there are others like me. I know you'll want to know what it's like there but you honestly won't understand."

"Oh." you said, a little let down. "But wait. If i get reincarnated to other places in time, could I have interacted with myself at some point?"

"Sure. Happens all the time. And with both lives only aware of their own timespan you don't even know it's happening."

"So what's the point of it all?"

"Seriously?" I asked. "Seriously? Your asking me for the meaning of life? Isn't that a little stereotypical?"

"Well it's a reasonable question." you persisted.

I looked in your eye. "The meaning of life, the reason I made this whole universe, is for you to mature."

"You mean mankind? You want us to mature?"

"No. just you. I made this whole universe for you. With each new life you grow and mature, and become a larger and greater intellect" "Just me? What about everyone else?"

"There is no one else," I said. "In this universe, there's just you, and me."

You stared blankly at me. "But all the people on earth..."

"All you. Different incarnations of you."

"Wait. I'm everyone!?"

"Now you're getting it." I said, with a congratulatory slap on the back.

"I'm every human who ever lived?"

"Or who will ever live, yes."

"I'm Abraham Lincoln?"

"And you're John Wilkes Booth, too." I added.

"I'm Hitler?" you said, appalled.

"And you're the millions he killed."

"I'm Jesus?"

"And you're everyone who followed him."

You fell silent.

"Every time you victimized someone," I said, "You were victimizing yourself. Every act of kindness you've done, you've done to yourself. Every happy and sad moment ever experienced by any human was, or will be, experienced by you."

"Why?" You asked me. "Why do all this?"

"Because someday, you will become like me. Because that's what you are. You're one of my kind. You're my child."

"Whoa." you said, incredulous. "You mean I'm a god?"

"No. Not yet. You're a fetus. You're still growing. Once you've lived every human life throughout all time, you will have grown enough to be born."

"So the whole universe," you said. "It's just..."

"An egg of sorts." I answered. "Now its time for you to move on to your next life."

And with that, I sent you on your way.

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